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1StrongBlackMan

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225. I don't know ...

Reply to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #215)

Wed Oct 8, 2014, 10:13 AM

Oct 2014

Maybe a bunch of folks just woke up to the state of America ... a state that has been present since shortly after the Clerk's error in Santa Clara v. Southern Pacific, back in 1886?

Maybe, a bunch of folks just discovered a new "light switch" that does wonderful things when flicked?

But I find it interesting that all this "discovery" finds its voice, today ... with THIS President ... is if history started in 2008.

And while I'm at it ... I must say, in find it "interesting" that so many ignore/mischaracterize this President's push for solidly left initiatives ... initiatives that actually affect broad swathes of the working classes, e.g., raising the Minimum Wage, Paycheck Fairness, his Jobs Plan, etc., in order to paint him as somehow not center-left.

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Too Big to Jail? Obama at the top of bankster fraud. [View all] L0oniX Oct 2014 OP

. MohRokTah Oct 2014 #1

Tim Geithner sacrificed homeowners to “foam the runway” for the banks Octafish Oct 2014 #5

good stuff, thanks nt navarth Oct 2014 #13

I Agree 100% billhicks76 Oct 2014 #181

I'd perfer this article since it outlines the timeline that the Democrats pushed through TARP Historic NY Oct 2014 #23

+1 L0oniX Oct 2014 #24

Octa.....my memory is that McCain and one of the bushes was involved with Keating fraud... dixiegrrrrl Oct 2014 #158

Poppy, Jebthro, Smirko, CIA and cronies got a BIG piece of the S&L action. Octafish Oct 2014 #164

It's time for McCain to go....as far away as possible. n/t dixiegrrrrl Oct 2014 #175

Seriously. He is already brain dead. littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #192

4 of the Keating 5 were Democrats. McInsane was the only repuke. L0oniX Oct 2014 #171

The S&L Corruption is Buy Partisan Octafish Oct 2014 #249

+1 L0oniX Oct 2014 #286

I knew I had a group picture of us somewhere... MrMickeysMom Oct 2014 #168

To the person who responded to me, I have you on ignore. MohRokTah Oct 2014 #7

No one cares who you have on ignore. /nt Marr Oct 2014 #27

Oh, aren't you special? 99Forever Oct 2014 #32

+1 L0oniX Oct 2014 #127

Ignore? LOL L0oniX Oct 2014 #55

That goes to the exact point of the OP. This White House -- all of them -- "have us on ignore" villager Oct 2014 #58

That's the bottom line. The picture gets ballyhoo Oct 2014 #69

^^^^^ This is the correct answer. ^^^^^^ woo me with science Oct 2014 #109

+1! "have us on ignore" Precisely. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #122

you are right about that. we have no representation except for the rare case where the whereisjustice Oct 2014 #139

Our minders are *slowly* realizing there's some overlap with "climate change" now villager Oct 2014 #179

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It wasn't me, it was the alerter davidpdx Oct 2014 #195

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Which post are you talking about? Was it me? JDPriestly Oct 2014 #142

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Nobody gives a shit who you have on ignore, especially the poster you're addressing. nt ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2014 #219

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Posting a picture that's all over wingnut and Libertarian sites? MohRokTah Oct 2014 #10

How would you know? You must go to those sites. nt valerief Oct 2014 #29

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heh. SammyWinstonJack Oct 2014 #155

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HAHA! exactly. nt laundry_queen Oct 2014 #147

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Everybody already knows what to expect from those other sites. So, you go there too? nt ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2014 #222

How would you know what is there if you never look at them? treestar Oct 2014 #231

I don't go to any of them, ever. I see enough right-wing crap right here on DU. nt ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2014 #233

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I don't put anyone on ignore eom treestar Oct 2014 #232

I was referring to the person you're defending. /nt Marr Oct 2014 #236

And you know this...how? blackspade Oct 2014 #37

. Rex Oct 2014 #51

...because you visit those sites regularly? L0oniX Oct 2014 #54

This subthread did not go as you expected LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #78

Point of order... Bobbie Jo Oct 2014 #126

Hmmm… so THIS is where you spend your time! MrMickeysMom Oct 2014 #169

How do you know? Never mind. nm rhett o rick Oct 2014 #184

How the fuck do you know what's on those sites? Just visiting here? nt ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2014 #220

Irony. zappaman Oct 2014 #251

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Being close minded has it's drawbacks. Did you view the video? NO! L0oniX Oct 2014 #17

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous Ichingcarpenter Oct 2014 #50

+ a billion L0oniX Oct 2014 #53

+10000000 woo me with science Oct 2014 #108

+1 And boy do we have a lot of that on display. nt raouldukelives Oct 2014 #216

Another reason I regret voting for him in 2008. NT clg311 Oct 2014 #2

Awwww.... SidDithers Oct 2014 #4

So given a second chance sarisataka Oct 2014 #11

I'd hardly call McCain/Palin a second chance. It's a good cop bad cop show. L0oniX Oct 2014 #14

Wow... chervilant Oct 2014 #44

"When will we stop hearing this canard? ".. when "we" stop avoiding the question? tia uponit7771 Oct 2014 #72

Ok I'll not avoid the question... SomethingFishy Oct 2014 #91

Yeppers. chervilant Oct 2014 #97

And that administration wouldn't have prosecuted the banksters either........ SammyWinstonJack Oct 2014 #159

It's was a burger A or burger B choice anyway. L0oniX Oct 2014 #18

Not really. Besides, the USSC is too important to allow any Republican president tblue37 Oct 2014 #26

First you have to trust that a Dem POTUS will place a SCJ that is for the real people. L0oniX Oct 2014 #28

Sotomayor and Kagan are better by far than the RWers on the USSC right now. And tblue37 Oct 2014 #41

And that's a fact emulatorloo Oct 2014 #283

Don't worry ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #30

Good one, 1SBM! BlueCaliDem Oct 2014 #64

No one ever has to vote for anyone. We supported this president because we thought sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #99

PLUS ONE, a huge bunch! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #123

Right On Thespian2 Oct 2014 #146

Bingo. nt laundry_queen Oct 2014 #148

Nailed It Teamster Jeff Oct 2014 #278

I don't regret my vote... blackspade Oct 2014 #38

The wider, more accurate, picture is, was, and probably will be ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #71

I think that is a fair statement LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #76

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #84

President Obama also promoted Chained CPI. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #124

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #125

I'll give you that. blackspade Oct 2014 #80

Sincere Question ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #85

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LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #110

I believe that poverty is a social issue BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #137

He has ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #163

At the end of the day... sendero Oct 2014 #149

Spoken like someone that has never been on the down side ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #160

If you are living under a bridge.. sendero Oct 2014 #212

No. It's Not ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #213

So your actual position.. sendero Oct 2014 #214

So your actual position ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #218

This^ eom littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #196

The ODS network doesn't want to know about the "70%" or how much good President Obama has done Cha Oct 2014 #157

Help!? littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #197

In this context, Obama Derangement Syndrome n/t emulatorloo Oct 2014 #284

Excellent Response! Rockyj Oct 2014 #100

When, in the last 60 years ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #134

Is it okay to be upset about that fact? stillwaiting Oct 2014 #208

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #211

This is just a perfect response. Absolutely perfect!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #215

I don't know ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #225

We've been down this road countless times, though, haven't we? It's pointless. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #294

Corporate owned socially progressive warmonger or Corporate owned batshit crazy winger <Sigh> eom Tommymac Oct 2014 #156

thanks for the vote! snooper2 Oct 2014 #223

Welcome to DU! zappaman Oct 2014 #242

William K. Black as Attorney General and every Bankster is behind bars. Octafish Oct 2014 #3

+1 Scuba Oct 2014 #6

Obama was probably hustled & overwhelmed...but, Holder knew what was going on.. KoKo Oct 2014 #19

Why they chose Obama over Clinton is a puzzle. L0oniX Oct 2014 #25

They wanted BLACK to take the blame for the crash instead of WHITE. nt valerief Oct 2014 #31

Breaking it down... littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #199

Good Question... KoKo Oct 2014 #42

Clinton is a known corporatist and is also known for being a staunch war-hawk mrdmk Oct 2014 #56

"THEY" didn't choose President Obama over HRC ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #79

WHY are you bothering??! Seriously! Number23 Oct 2014 #154

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #161

It's like Scorpio talking about his battles with the mouth breathing cretins on Discussionist Number23 Oct 2014 #162

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #165

Exactly, this is just anothe Obama hate fest thread which seems to appear all to frequently here still_one Oct 2014 #188

No Caretha Oct 2014 #128

+3 L0oniX Oct 2014 #21

+2 Hubert Flottz Oct 2014 #22

Having read the excerpted sections of the two must read documents ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #88

Try this... Octafish Oct 2014 #112

Okay ... watched it ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #117

You make a good point. No one has prosecuted the banksters. Octafish Oct 2014 #135

Perhaps you should watch the clip again ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #178

Obama told the banks he was the only thing standing between them and our pitchforks. Autumn Oct 2014 #9

Thanks, L0onix navarth Oct 2014 #12

good god Sheepshank Oct 2014 #15

Recommend OP and Eugene Debs! KoKo Oct 2014 #16

I listened to Matt Taibbi on a late night radio show last week librechik Oct 2014 #20

+1 "...massive atrocity that is now permanent." KoKo Oct 2014 #43

+100000000 They retain the shell of the democratic government, woo me with science Oct 2014 #246

The U.S. is becoming one big gulag. nt valerief Oct 2014 #33

More like a herd of lemming serfs. L0oniX Oct 2014 #57

It is as was said the other day: "The new American Dream is to be a slave to a billionaire." n/t xocet Oct 2014 #189

K&R SamKnause Oct 2014 #34

And, there you have it. nc4bo Oct 2014 #36

So you'd rather John McCain had been elected? MaggieD Oct 2014 #39

electing McCain was not the only possible alternative. grasswire Oct 2014 #45

Tell me about it MaggieD Oct 2014 #61

Electing Obama effectively neutralized outrage and opposition RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #52

Well how do you think you change that? MaggieD Oct 2014 #60

Not be repeatedly mischaracterizing it as a circular firing squad, that's for sure RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #68

I disagree.... MaggieD Oct 2014 #81

This argument again? LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #77

I'm just commenting on the Debs quote MaggieD Oct 2014 #82

Frankly ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #118

+1 MaggieD Oct 2014 #131

For some silly reason the line so you want McCain/ Palin just doesn't work anymore Autumn Oct 2014 #89

Then it would be advisable to drop the Debs quote MaggieD Oct 2014 #104

Ya think? Autumn Oct 2014 #136

I do think.... MaggieD Oct 2014 #140

Poor poor Ralph had just as much right to run for president Autumn Oct 2014 #144

I like parrots. L0oniX Oct 2014 #293

John MCCain couldn't have been elected. Romney was the republican nominee. Autumn Oct 2014 #87

The article is referencing back to the bank bailout - so 2008 MaggieD Oct 2014 #103

I think about how much better this country would be if... polichick Oct 2014 #107

The "lesser of evils" meme is so last year. The people eating at soup kitchens, getting a few days rhett o rick Oct 2014 #187

ben bernanke mopinko Oct 2014 #40

"Statute of Limitations" expired on much of it...and as memory fades KoKo Oct 2014 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Oct 2014 #70

+1 L0oniX Oct 2014 #49

Have known that for a long time, but thanks for ballyhoo Oct 2014 #46

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CF4QFjAI&url=http stupidicus Oct 2014 #48

All I can say is ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #59

Too big to play by the rules. Rex Oct 2014 #62

Yes, that's where we are now. Question is, what will "the people" do about it? polichick Oct 2014 #63

Well ...we can't all be banksters so I guess we are stuck with our pathetic votes. L0oniX Oct 2014 #173

Americans will have to use the ingenuity we're so known for. polichick Oct 2014 #230

K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2014 #65

K&R for William Black. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #66

That's the best interview I have ever seen regarding ballyhoo Oct 2014 #67

Yea ...it really hit home with me. L0oniX Oct 2014 #114

Well, good job again, as usual. I never in ballyhoo Oct 2014 #115

Anyone who voted for Obama in 2012 even when they really didn't like his policies after the first 4 years NYC Liberal Oct 2014 #73

Some people voted for him again in 2012 for one reason only, he wasn't romney. Autumn Oct 2014 #75

And that's how the two-party system stays alive. NYC Liberal Oct 2014 #90

We bought into that crap that if we don't vote for a D the republicans will win. Autumn Oct 2014 #95

I strongly supported Pres. Obama in 2012 and still do. NYC Liberal Oct 2014 #102

And a secret ballot. Whether we like it or not. nt littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #200

There's a Senate seat race in Kansas where the Dem pulled out and an Independant is leading Electric Monk Oct 2014 #111

Yeah, duh we have to work with people who are closer to/more like us treestar Oct 2014 #203

Okay. Autumn Oct 2014 #217

Non-hypocrite checking in RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #83

Good for you. I'm tired of people saying how much they hate the candidates NYC Liberal Oct 2014 #93

I berated Caretha Oct 2014 #138

Obama was picked AlbertCat Oct 2014 #74

Obama was picked (to be "elected") grasswire Oct 2014 #86

K$ R 99Forever Oct 2014 #92

So why don't you promote someone you admire instead of coming on a Democratic forum... randome Oct 2014 #94

Yeah, shut up! Freedom of speech is anti-American! polichick Oct 2014 #105

If the truth is too much for you maybe you should try Fox. L0oniX Oct 2014 #113

+1. And ironically ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #119

Because it's all Bobbie Jo Oct 2014 #129

I posted this to another thread (or maybe this one) ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #133

Wow, that is the full list, 1SBM. Wash, rinse, repeat to infinity, just as Segretti would. freshwest Oct 2014 #190

thanks elleng Oct 2014 #151

"Fore!" Unknown Beatle Oct 2014 #98

Thats Funny, sadly bahrbearian Oct 2014 #198

Debs: under the bus since 1918! MisterP Oct 2014 #101

And losing elections since 1904. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #121

I think Obama was patching over the bad shit as best he could. hunter Oct 2014 #130

Martin Wolf, in his book Shifts and Shocks, PatrickforO Oct 2014 #141

should be a crime to evoke Eugene Debs for an election month hit job to convince dems not to vote certainot Oct 2014 #143

Bill Moyers does not work for me. Thanks for playing. L0oniX Oct 2014 #166

but you're using moyers certainot Oct 2014 #167

What you are trying to do is stop free speech. L0oniX Oct 2014 #170

oh, bullshit. while you link to the moyers vid you're just using it for certainot Oct 2014 #182

...because republicans are the only ones who fuck us over. Enjoy your delusion. L0oniX Oct 2014 #227

i'm well aware of what the corporate wing and blue dogs and liebermans are doing certainot Oct 2014 #235

If the truth suppresses the vote then that's just too bad. Do lies suppress or swing the vote? Yep! L0oniX Oct 2014 #289

the rush actions are a great start, but it's the only thing the last 25 years certainot Oct 2014 #295

Question INdemo Oct 2014 #287

IMO liberals and progressives embarrass the centrists so they lash out. They know they... L0oniX Oct 2014 #290

Eugene Debs didn't win either treestar Oct 2014 #201

Well we had to 'look forward' because McCain/Rmoney..........or something like that. SammyWinstonJack Oct 2014 #152

2009 called and wants its conspiracy theory back. nt ucrdem Oct 2014 #174

Sadly, inaction on bankster reform came from the top, the White House. Someone got paid back by blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #176

Whenever "They" is invoked frazzled Oct 2014 #177

K&R ReRe Oct 2014 #180

"...The problem definitely comes from the top ..." ... slipslidingaway Oct 2014 #185

Drug lunches predate President Obama. nt littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #204

No disagreement, nothing changed under Obama, but policy is still set from the top. n/t slipslidingaway Oct 2014 #285

Agreed. The top down approach, irksome for me. littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #288

Top down has the financial backing ... slipslidingaway Oct 2014 #291

Shortly after the '08 election the score became clear. pa28 Oct 2014 #186

He'll likely get a prime spot at the Carlyle Group or Goldman-Sachs for his efforts n/t BuelahWitch Oct 2014 #239

It's been shown on the board many times that people have been prosecuted treestar Oct 2014 #202

This is why I suspect that his community organizing penchant is littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #207

Hillary too would be financed by by bankers and the corporate world INdemo Oct 2014 #210

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I agree. I am one of those Democrats who is not ashamed to INdemo Oct 2014 #237

BREAKING NEWS: The Democratic Party is not the Socialist Party YoungDemCA Oct 2014 #226

BREAKING NEWS: NOTICE MY POST CAUSE I USE CAPS. L0oniX Oct 2014 #228

So if someone thinks that people should be held accountable for BuelahWitch Oct 2014 #241

That's not a reach, that's a pole vault to a whole other level. L0oniX Oct 2014 #292

Socialism for the Oh-So-Social. Octafish Oct 2014 #256

BREAKING NEWS: I HAVE CAPS LOCK TOO Capt. Obvious Oct 2014 #280