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Bolo Boffin

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Sat Apr 14, 2012, 03:26 PM Apr 2012

Obama and ENDA: How about helping him get it passed? [View all]

Lots of disappointed people these days with the President over his not signing an executive order than would bar discrimination against gay and lesbian workers in federal contractors, and I'm one of them. True, this one executive order doesn't fix everything the actual ENDA law would, but it would at least be something, right?

However, the administration has said again and again that an EO would not be effective enough for the President's goals, and from what I'm seeing, it might even be counter productive. From the 4/12 press briefing:

Again, I think that the DADT repeal is instructive here in terms of the approach that we’re taking at this time. And while it is not our usual practice to discuss executive orders that may or may not be under consideration, we do not expect that an EO on LGBT non-discrimination for federal contractors will be issued at this time. We support, as I just said, legislation that has been introduced -- the Employment Non-Discrimination Act -- and we will continue to work with congressional supporters to build -- sponsors, rather, to build support for it.


What that paragraph says when you read between the lines is that the opposition to the President signing an EO on LGBT non-discrimination for federal contractors is coming from Congress. Jay Carney is being as politic as possible in saying it, but it's right there. There's an approach that's similar to the DADT repeal (another situation where an EO was held back at the request of Congress so they could get the votes together for the repeal). Here, it's the same thing.

So if you want an EO, call your Congress critters and find out who's the holdup. If you can't change their mind, you can at least get them on the record as to why they oppose an EO for federal contractors. Is ENDA broadly popular among the American populace? Is the limited EO? Great! Tell them that. Have your facts and your polls in line and cite them in your letters and your calls.

Or alternately, you could be working to implement the plan of ENDA's sponsors as described by Carney:

We’re deeply committed to working hand-in-hand with partners in the LGBT community on a number of fronts to build the case for employment non-discrimination policies including by complementing the existing body of compelling research with government-backed data and analysis, building a coalition of key stakeholders and decision-makers, directly engaging with and educating all sectors of the business community -- from major corporations to contractors to small business -- and raising public awareness about the human and financial costs of discrimination in the work force.


Tell your stories of discrimination in the work force. Tell the ones you've experienced and the ones you've observed. Talk about the human and financial costs to everyone who will listen -- most especially in letters or phone calls to your Congress critters. But do it here as well, in this thread, in other threads, on Facebook, in family meetings, wherever you can find an audience willing to listen, and maybe a few not that willing as well!

Get into a local gay rights group and find out what you can do to advance the legislation. If you can help complement the existing body of compelling research, do that! Talk to business leaders about who they hire and who they fire.

Every minute spent resenting President Obama for not signing a band-aid EO is a minute wasted. Do you want to end all the discrimination for good? Or do you want to hate on Obama, the only 2012 major party candidate who would sign ENDA the minute it hits his desk? Which is going to get us down the road to ENDA faster?
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Vaguely insulting, mitchtv Apr 2012 #1
I'm sorry you felt vaguely insulted. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #3
Exactly...another attempt to absolve Obama from any reponsbility from anything joeybee12 Apr 2012 #12
Nope. I'm disappointed like everyone else with this. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #14
You gotta think BIG! MrScorpio Apr 2012 #2
What do you think the national LGBT lobby has been doing for the last twenty years? ruggerson Apr 2012 #4
"The Congressfolk who support ENDA want Obama to sign this limited EO" Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #6
How about the lead sponsor of the bitll? ruggerson Apr 2012 #7
OK, so Jeff Merkley's not the source of the Congressional hold up. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #8
That's my Senator, Jeff Merkely, and I worked hard for Jeff's election. This is why. Bluenorthwest Apr 2012 #9
I'm trying really hard to be respectful of your position. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #10
We've been dealing with this for decades ruggerson Apr 2012 #11
I'm happy to listen to you on these issues when you're talking real solutions. n/t Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #13
The real solution is for Obama to sign the limited EO and keep the ball rolling on ENDA ruggerson Apr 2012 #15
That's one, but it's clear the White House is saying signing the EO will hurt the ENDA coalition. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #16
No rational person believes that - it is an election year excuse ruggerson Apr 2012 #18
What does Barney Frank say about the limited EO? Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #22
Yes, there is a reason. They don't want a gay issue to come up during campaign season ruggerson Apr 2012 #25
But President Obama talks about his accomplishments in gay rights and his plans all the time. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #27
Gay issues will come up in the campaign. Romney will be anti-gay, Obama will kick him in the nuts emulatorloo Apr 2012 #40
It's coming from cowards. GeorgeGist Apr 2012 #39
As we have seen over the past couple days, Occulus Apr 2012 #17
People on BBI threads are virulently opposed to BBI's incessant Obama bashing. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #21
I am aware of that. Occulus Apr 2012 #23
Two kinds of neg responses in that thread, anti-BBI and Strategical Differences w BBI about how to emulatorloo Apr 2012 #41
What does Barney Frank say about this? Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #19
Frank is one of 72 Housemembers who have sent a letter to Obama requesting he sign the EO ruggerson Apr 2012 #24
"But prominent members of House Democratic leadership aren’t among the signers." Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #26
WTF - ruggerson Apr 2012 #28
"There are conservative Democrats in the House who are also weasels on gay rights." Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #29
Siince when ruggerson Apr 2012 #30
I'm not moving the goalposts. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #31
The answer is: It's election season and he doesn't want to go out on a limb ruggerson Apr 2012 #32
But that's not true. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #34
Also, 72 members aren't even a majority of Democratic members of the House. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #38
The ENDA has come up in Congress each session less one, since 1994 Bluenorthwest Apr 2012 #5
The Rs can still kill ENDA in the Senate even if we retake the House. LonePirate Apr 2012 #20
An Executive Order would not help fightforfreedom123 Apr 2012 #33
An Executive Order would help LGBT employees of federal contractors. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #35
And no one listens - he must stop the firings that he can now - these are real people FreeState Apr 2012 #36
That's an awful story you've posted in GD. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #37
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