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nolabear

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33. There is no "right" thing to do in these situations.

Wed Oct 8, 2014, 12:32 PM

Oct 2014

If you get out of the car you're in danger of being shot. If you don't you're noncompliant and in danger of being shot or arrested. If you are confused because you have no idea why the cops are screaming at you then you're in danger of being pepper sprayed...if you're lucky and they don't shoot you. If you stand up for your rights you're considered non-compliant and arrested, or shot. If you did not do what they believe you did and argue that, you are in danger of being framed (drug dog, planted evidence) and arrested, or shot. If you are asked for ID and reach for it you are in danger of being shot.

All of this, of course, involves mostly being black.

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Black Teen Pepper-Sprayed By Cops After Entering His White Foster Parents� Home [View all] kpete Oct 2014 OP

lawsuits need to start getting paid out of police budgets snooper2 Oct 2014 #1

They need to be paid out of the cops' pockets. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #34

Exactly! gopiscrap Oct 2014 #52

Exactly the thought I had. Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #86

Awesome Idea billhicks76 Oct 2014 #74

Even when the police are wrong, they rationalize, Trillo Oct 2014 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author politicat Oct 2014 #3

You didn't watch the interview, did you? MohRokTah Oct 2014 #4

thanks MohRokTah kpete Oct 2014 #5

Yeah, the kid doesn't like having his picture taken, and his foster parents respected that. MohRokTah Oct 2014 #7

Like how you embarrassed yourself: ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2014 #45

No, because I have JavaScript disabled. No video. (That's iOS's workaround to Adblock.) politicat Oct 2014 #51

Or it could be the neighbor justgamma Oct 2014 #6

This! FlatStanley Oct 2014 #39

I think some people don't believe that really goes on. Mariana Oct 2014 #56

^^^^^this^^^^^ my thought exactly azurnoir Oct 2014 #64

+1 Exactly- hoping they shoot first no doubt Victim lived there for a year!! Get real lunasun Oct 2014 #83

So it's the parents fault? GGJohn Oct 2014 #8

he lived with them for a year...and the neighbors never SAW him? noiretextatique Oct 2014 #9

You are making assumptions that the family was in the neighborhood for a year. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #22

oh sorry...they said they had him for a year noiretextatique Oct 2014 #89

Yeah, blame the victim and his parents. Good job. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #13

I had a neighbor once... berni_mccoy Oct 2014 #17

One of the foster parents in our family has a wall of pictures of ALL the foster children she has jwirr Oct 2014 #18

Would you say the same thing about their white children, Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #24

That makes a difference. The time line. I do not understand what you mean regarding the color of jwirr Oct 2014 #32

The only thing you said about this family Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #60

I do not know what my reaction would be. But if you are calling me racist - you could not be more jwirr Oct 2014 #62

I'm saying that reacting to pretty extreme police brutality Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #80

Your relative is an exception. You got good people in her. politicat Oct 2014 #53

Thank you. The kids also come back to visit with her. I think we are doing better with finding good jwirr Oct 2014 #55

It would never occur to me, as a parent, noamnety Oct 2014 #88

How many white family are require to do all the regiments you listed?? Farmbrook Oct 2014 #25

"The boy"? Seriously? riqster Oct 2014 #27

Apparently that poster didn't read even the OP title JimDandy Oct 2014 #38

I love blaming the victim. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #40

Just another day in America, sadly. marmar Oct 2014 #10

Time to bankrupt these municipalities. nt BumRushDaShow Oct 2014 #11

No! Bankrupt the cops. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #43

Unfortunately most have "immunity" in civil suits. nt BumRushDaShow Oct 2014 #47

Really? I didn't know that. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #48

Most government employes (local, state, federal) are immune from prosecution BumRushDaShow Oct 2014 #61

Thank you for that civics lesson. I appreciate it. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #67

No problem! BumRushDaShow Oct 2014 #71

The problem goes deeper than that Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #49

Law enforcement is insane, racist, and out of control etherealtruth Oct 2014 #12

These idiots are doing this in small town America too.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #23

Sadly, you are spot on! etherealtruth Oct 2014 #28

He "would not follow orders"?? Is this a new law I've been unaware of, that we must OBEY?? WinkyDink Oct 2014 #14

"refused to follow orders" Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #54

I've heard it called "resisting without violence". It's BS. savalez Oct 2014 #73

Contempt of cop..... blackspade Oct 2014 #77

Wondering if the cops pulled up in a tank. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #15

If the kid was there a year you'd think the neighbor would have known by now Catherine Vincent Oct 2014 #16

They moved to the neighborhood in July. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #21

4 months seems long enough. savalez Oct 2014 #79

First, the person I was responding to claimed they had been there a year. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #82

True but savalez Oct 2014 #84

I don't think the neighbor should have called the police. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #93

I agree. savalez Oct 2014 #95

Wake County also has an active real estate market Bad Thoughts Oct 2014 #26

The busy body also needs to be sued FlatStanley Oct 2014 #37

There should be charges for misuse of 911 and police malpractive. eom. Bad Thoughts Oct 2014 #41

Perfect! FlatStanley Oct 2014 #46

My guess is that the neighbor knew exactly who the child was when they made the call. nt ladjf Oct 2014 #42

ASSume and attack VA_Jill Oct 2014 #19

Again, cops resorting to violence when it is not necessary at all Man from Pickens Oct 2014 #20

Cops were issued mace and pepper spray and tazers so they wouldn't have to use clubs and guns... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #29

This neighbor needs a life damnedifIknow Oct 2014 #30

I am so glad that more and more of these incidents are getting reported. vlyons Oct 2014 #31

There is no "right" thing to do in these situations. nolabear Oct 2014 #33

+1 Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #58

when I read the part about "refused to follow orders" I imagined that the orders were: KurtNYC Oct 2014 #72

"Cure my rage and fear or suffer the consequences!" nolabear Oct 2014 #76

damnedifIknow is right regarding the neighbor Android3.14 Oct 2014 #35

Link has info that the family moved to the neighborhood in July JimDandy Oct 2014 #44

It's North Carolina. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #36

Ignorant remark. The South is not one homogeneous region... ms liberty Oct 2014 #50

Just a few points: FlatStanley Oct 2014 #70

So which states in the South are not full of racist, ignorant "Christians"? jeff47 Oct 2014 #85

Fuquay-Varina, North Carolina jberryhill Oct 2014 #59

Hahahaha! Well played. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #68

Wonder how he got outside the house, where police power to act is greater? n/t Orsino Oct 2014 #57

So a person can't be in their home unless their picture is on the wall? drm604 Oct 2014 #63

no, they pepper sprayed the kid, because the cops are racist. nt Javaman Oct 2014 #65

That kid was terrorized. Bush started this "be very afraid of your neighbors" crap. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #66

To be fair, Bush did not start the paranoia MurrayDelph Oct 2014 #78

Agreed. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #90

This is horrible. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #69

Way to go thugs in blue! blackspade Oct 2014 #75

Another white family experiencing mackerel Oct 2014 #81

So, it's no longer "driving while black" or "walking in a white neighborhood while black" or raven mad Oct 2014 #87

White Privliege...are people still blind as to what that means? Rex Oct 2014 #91

We have a new "crime": Being Resident While Black In A White Neighborhood friendly_iconoclast Oct 2014 #92

feeling safer yet? eom whereisjustice Oct 2014 #94

Are we angry yet? herding cats Oct 2014 #96

If this had been Albuquerque, NM ... left-of-center2012 Oct 2014 #97