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kdmorris

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158. As the first response said... sample of one

Thu Oct 9, 2014, 06:27 AM

Oct 2014

Eating healthy "healed" your Diabetes.

I am not a vegan. I'm not a vegetarian. I eat meat and dairy and complex carbs and a wide variety of foods. I do not drink juice or soda and what bread I do eat is whole grain. Every meal is a combination of a complex carb and a protein (Steel Cut Oats, 2 eggs and 1 oz of cheese for breakfast, for example)

So, as a counterpoint to your sample of one... NOT eating Vegan "healed" my Diabetes. I'm 45 years old, my last HbA1c was 5.6, my cholesterol is 167 and I exercise as close to every day as possible. And I enjoy a wide variety of foods, including meat, which is an excellent source of protein.

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The long, LONG, LONGER list of VEGAN-CAUSED health ailments, diseases, and deaths.. [View all] Veganhealedme Oct 2014 OP

Three very important words for you: Sample. Of. One. nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #1

Lots of McDougallers would challenge your comment. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #17

Damn skimpy! Veganhealedme Oct 2014 #24

oh God. That quack. I know something about him. mainer Oct 2014 #61

Be honest, who's really the quack, Veganhealedme Oct 2014 #69

Or two Applan Oct 2014 #92

Everything in moderation. longship Oct 2014 #2

I try to not go overboard with the moderation. Badda bing! JEB Oct 2014 #179

Bill Clinton is a vegan. Except when he isn't. Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #3

Try to put yourself in the shoes of a vegan for a moment.. Veganhealedme Oct 2014 #21

I'm vegan, except for when I'm not. And make no bones about it. KittyWampus Oct 2014 #30

I know, that is one of my favorite things. cwydro Oct 2014 #131

I bet Bill is all "yes, I'm a vegan" when Chelsea is around, Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #135

I love the way the article accuses him of "lying" and then QUOTES him "admitting." MADem Oct 2014 #152

I am going to assume you were type 2 diabetic Egnever Oct 2014 #4

I was diagnosed Type-2 when I was 33. Veganhealedme Oct 2014 #62

vegan doesn't necessarily = low-carb noiretextatique Oct 2014 #94

Low carb isn't absolutely necessary as long as it's low simple sugar Warpy Oct 2014 #103

yes...i know, since i have type 2 noiretextatique Oct 2014 #136

Just get a good book that covers nutrition Warpy Oct 2014 #140

It pretty much eliminates high glycemic load carbs Egnever Oct 2014 #104

my last A1C was 5.5 noiretextatique Oct 2014 #137

No symptoms and reversal are not the same thing Egnever Oct 2014 #138

thanks...got it eom noiretextatique Oct 2014 #174

There is no "cure" for a genetic disease eridani Oct 2014 #145

fine...asymptomatic, anyone? noiretextatique Oct 2014 #175

As good a term as any. You can overcome a genetic defect by avoiding-- eridani Oct 2014 #182

i am trying noiretextatique Oct 2014 #187

You can't reverse Type 2 Diabetes kdmorris Oct 2014 #157

Exactly. Marr Oct 2014 #184

um, what? Leafy greens can kill you just the same justabob Oct 2014 #5

Answer: Kitchen vinegar or food grade hydrogen peroxide kills pathogens. Veganhealedme Oct 2014 #25

E coli is killed by UV light Warpy Oct 2014 #109

wasn't that because they were contaminated with animal shit? Applan Oct 2014 #88

I have quite a few Vegetarian friends.. not full vegan DontTreadOnMe Oct 2014 #6

Once you cut out meat, you satisfy your hunger with with carbs. mainer Oct 2014 #19

Cheese can be like poison if overconsumed.. Veganhealedme Oct 2014 #27

Uhm you're going to need to back up the "cheese is like poison" thing. tridim Oct 2014 #164

The OP is about veganism not vegetarianism mucifer Oct 2014 #156

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Good for you, not good for the environment. But hey! Mmmmmm�. industrial meat. KittyWampus Oct 2014 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Oct 2014 #37

I wonder... bobclark86 Oct 2014 #82

OH god. yes. What you just said. nt laundry_queen Oct 2014 #130

I'd like to add that I'm 66, a happy and enthusiastic SheilaT Oct 2014 #8

I am 75 years old and happy and healthy. RebelOne Oct 2014 #10

Can you explain the rising rates of 10 year old children.. Veganhealedme Oct 2014 #34

my guess would be a sedentary lifestyle backwoodsbob Oct 2014 #42

Sedentary lifestyle kicks one leg out from under a healthy body.. Veganhealedme Oct 2014 #46

we will have to agree to disagree backwoodsbob Oct 2014 #52

You might want to view a few documentaries chervilant Oct 2014 #67

again...we will have to agree to disagree backwoodsbob Oct 2014 #72

According to which scientific studies? What source are you quoting? chervilant Oct 2014 #74

why do I need studies?you yourself impeached your own argument backwoodsbob Oct 2014 #79

What?!? chervilant Oct 2014 #93

we need someone to do a study then backwoodsbob Oct 2014 #100

I PROMISE you that your words are not true chervilant Oct 2014 #110

I know exactly where you belong... chervilant Oct 2014 #132

I've been reading through all the posts here and I have to say, it's going to be really HARD napi21 Oct 2014 #133

Spoken like someone that's done their research! +1000. nt Veganhealedme Oct 2014 #73

In my experience, those who react most negatively about Veganism, chervilant Oct 2014 #99

Also raw for thirty is a good doc. I have sent it to relatives but they say you don't have diabetes lunasun Oct 2014 #108

BTW, Chervilant congrats! Veganhealedme Oct 2014 #117

Why do I have to explain all that? SheilaT Oct 2014 #116

I am no defender of meat or meat eating (I haven't eaten red meat for decades), but Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #178

Statins save lives and there are more nitrates in a bunch of celery Drahthaardogs Oct 2014 #188

Paternal G-Grandma - 102, Missouri pig farmer's daughter. Died of Pneumonia. haele Oct 2014 #146

Good for you. FLPanhandle Oct 2014 #9

THANK YOU Skittles Oct 2014 #105

Really? Restricted diet? Most of the meat eaters I know, and I live in a foodie town, eat far less Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #123

restricted as in denying yourself entire food groups Skittles Oct 2014 #168

Good for you leftynyc Oct 2014 #11

Not many meat eaters live that long.. Veganhealedme Oct 2014 #36

Tiny percentage? Link please. n/t tammywammy Oct 2014 #48

Do you have a link to support that assertion? n/t zappaman Oct 2014 #51

My grandfather just turned 90 tabbycat31 Oct 2014 #60

link please nt backwoodsbob Oct 2014 #75

I think you need to back that up with facts. Marrah_G Oct 2014 #111

Let's see leftynyc Oct 2014 #150

Lots and lots of BS data coming from you. tridim Oct 2014 #165

My carnivorous dad lived to be 92. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #83

Agree leftynyc Oct 2014 #151

k&r Liberal_in_LA Oct 2014 #12

Great for you. I do experiment with foods to find which ones trigger my inflamation NightWatcher Oct 2014 #13

Bison is mostly free range and nearly fat-free.. Veganhealedme Oct 2014 #41

A few years ago, I went from SAD to lacto veg, but jumped from veg to raw. I never felt better, but freshwest Oct 2014 #144

Are you really claiming that animal fat causes inflammation? tridim Oct 2014 #166

Vegan makes me anemic, tired, and moody. closeupready Oct 2014 #14

44yrs here and perfect labs every year. Meat is tasty. ileus Oct 2014 #15

I'm glad you healed yourself by going vegan. SalviaBlue Oct 2014 #16

exhibit A for an earlier thread methinks.... whatthehey Oct 2014 #18

New book: Americans cut out fat from their diets.... and got fat because of it. mainer Oct 2014 #20

I eat plenty of fat in my vegan diet.. Veganhealedme Oct 2014 #23

Wasn't the problem that they substituted carbs and sugars, though? freshwest Oct 2014 #148

Right. But as book states, meat and fat are satisfying mainer Oct 2014 #162

Right. There has to be something to end that hunger, I've noticed it's a process freshwest Oct 2014 #167

And this is why "people hate vegans." The_Commonist Oct 2014 #22

Glad to be hated.. Veganhealedme Oct 2014 #45

Is there some reason you are behaving so rudely? Marrah_G Oct 2014 #49

Who brought up the hateful comment first? Me or the person I replied to? Veganhealedme Oct 2014 #55

Your entire post was picking a fight from the very beginning. Marrah_G Oct 2014 #65

I am going to Outback tonight and can't wait yeoman6987 Oct 2014 #57

Misleading headline. Implies being vegan causes issues still_one Oct 2014 #26

Here's what a 70+ yr old Vegan looks like nationalize the fed Oct 2014 #28

Your snarky FACTS are clouding the debate! Veganhealedme Oct 2014 #29

Here's what a self described Vegan hater looks like at 47 nationalize the fed Oct 2014 #143

Here's what a 74 year old meat eater looks like zappaman Oct 2014 #32

wow.. grandma is looking good! DontTreadOnMe Oct 2014 #33

Note to self: Eat more meat! Uben Oct 2014 #40

Question, are you on any medications? nt Veganhealedme Oct 2014 #50

Just one Uben Oct 2014 #113

How much plastic surgery went into that> (nt) malokvale77 Oct 2014 #90

Yes, my question also. n/t RebelOne Oct 2014 #181

That's after a few facelifts Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #97

Difference being, one has had extensive plastic surgery, the other has not. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #124

I'm sure genetics are involved, too. GoCubsGo Oct 2014 #171

That's not a very large sample size phil89 Oct 2014 #39

Vegans make up about 1.5% of the population.. Veganhealedme Oct 2014 #66

Yes, as a matter of fact, this woman looks positively ancient compared to my Ecumenist Oct 2014 #161

Yup, my Mom - except for the salon and spa treatments the above lady obviously gets. Genetics. haele Oct 2014 #173

my great grandfather sabbat hunter Oct 2014 #35

It's not for everyone. I have a friend who was made sick and weak by veganism. Brickbat Oct 2014 #38

livingwagenow...nt SidDithers Oct 2014 #43

Good work. msanthrope Oct 2014 #58

And Union Yes before that... SidDithers Oct 2014 #80

Hey, I've seen that one. Didn't finish it though. freshwest Oct 2014 #149

I'm 53. I eat meat. Lots of it. Feeling fine here. End of story. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2014 #44

I'm 51. I eat meat too. zappaman Oct 2014 #53

Beef short ribs last night. My Wife cooked 'em. Melt in your mouth. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2014 #106

That sounds awesome! zappaman Oct 2014 #115

Damn! Closest In & Out is 40 miles from here. Jealous. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2014 #120

Are you on any rx meds? Veganhealedme Oct 2014 #54

No meds. Horrendous rotator cuff though; it's getting operated on in November. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2014 #102

I support your decision to eat how you choose. Marrah_G Oct 2014 #47

SINNERS! SINNERS IN THE HANDS OF AN ANGRY GOD! Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #56

Exactly. FSogol Oct 2014 #59

Let the rabbits wear glasses! opiate69 Oct 2014 #63

+1 HuckleB Oct 2014 #81

Heh. +1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2014 #89

Well just stand back.. I have a vegan story and it will get some peoples goat Peacetrain Oct 2014 #64

Well, old friend, we are in the process of going vegan rurallib Oct 2014 #70

That was a good one for me, too. chervilant Oct 2014 #87

Its a real process that is for sure Peacetrain Oct 2014 #121

Wow...the things one can learn at the library! n/t zappaman Oct 2014 #68

Oh no u did nt! Rex Oct 2014 #76

. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2014 #91

It's not LG... SidDithers Oct 2014 #96

I hope you take Zinc ssupplements. eom MohRokTah Oct 2014 #71

I eat pumkin seeds, high in zinc.. Veganhealedme Oct 2014 #84

No thanks. MohRokTah Oct 2014 #85

I haven't liked the taste of meat since I was a child HockeyMom Oct 2014 #77

I'm 55 and, similarly, I never liked the taste of meat, so when I went vegetarian, I learned what I Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #125

There is a point where, when meat is cooking, and the fat is being rendered off it, that it makes Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #177

Me too. I never liked meat (well, red meat). Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #176

Eat what you want to. No one else cares. mainer Oct 2014 #78

My view, a nation that eats meat has unaffordable healthcare.. Veganhealedme Oct 2014 #86

lol...meat eaters get a little defensive on DU demwing Oct 2014 #95

One time I had a grazer criticize my purchases at the grocery checkout. hobbit709 Oct 2014 #98

I knew you would get flamed for this... malokvale77 Oct 2014 #101

Welcome to DU! LiberalElite Oct 2014 #107

I fail to understand what it is that makes you.. 99Forever Oct 2014 #112

I'm a 44 year old vegan. Codeine Oct 2014 #114

Youre wasting your time bringing this here... bunnies Oct 2014 #118

uh huh Skittles Oct 2014 #170

Good on you Vegan. I have been trying to go vegan, old habits are dying hard here. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #119

How nice for you Generic Brad Oct 2014 #122

Would you tell me what you eat during a typical week? aikoaiko Oct 2014 #126

Vegan is very high carbs which leads to blood sugar spikes. BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #128

Vegetarians longest lived in US. ErikJ Oct 2014 #127

How do you know it's because they don't smoke or drink? mainer Oct 2014 #163

Right. ErikJ Oct 2014 #172

I have a co worker who is a fanatic vegan Danmel Oct 2014 #129

Actually, there is one...peripheral neuropathy... Barack_America Oct 2014 #134

I have that...in all my extremities Marrah_G Oct 2014 #147

I Eat Chicken Dirty Socialist Oct 2014 #139

When I have tried vegan or vegetarian diets, Blue_In_AK Oct 2014 #141

Our town's leading TV weatherman is a vegan. JEFF9K Oct 2014 #142

Vegans are deficient in several important nutrients, including Creatine and B12. Marr Oct 2014 #153

"Wanna compare the health of a vegan to that of a meat eater? " Inkfreak Oct 2014 #154

This is such a preachy stereotype, I feel like I'm being trolled... Oktober Oct 2014 #155

As the first response said... sample of one kdmorris Oct 2014 #158

I'm quoting the author Isaac Bashevis Singer mucifer Oct 2014 #159

Well this is nonsense. RedCappedBandit Oct 2014 #160

the OP thinks only vegan means no meds Skittles Oct 2014 #169

Shhh, stop being sensible shenmue Oct 2014 #183

Look, eat what you want. But some of your claims in this thread are BS. bigwillq Oct 2014 #180

Thank you. GoneOffShore Oct 2014 #185

Everyone is different AnalystInParadise Oct 2014 #186