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AtomicKitten

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272. just cursory research reveals

Thu Oct 9, 2014, 02:24 PM

Oct 2014

HRC was actually kicking the shit out of the field through 2007 leaping ahead by 53% in a WaPo-ABC poll in 10/07, and that's with several other candidates running. Now, her polling is above 50% but that's with no real and actual contenders, so far.

The point here is that she had every conceivable advantage in 2008. It was hers to lose, and boy did she, with embarrassing drama and zero grace.

She is not inevitable.

March 1997: "Dems Favor Hillary Clinton for 2008": http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/14/democrats.poll/

December 2007: "Clinton Maintains Large Lead over Obama Nationally at 45%":
http://www.gallup.com/poll/103351/clinton-maintains-large-lead-over-obama-nationally.aspx

October 2007: Quoting a WaPo-ABC poll
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2007/10/03/hillary-clinton-leaps-ahead-in-latest-democratic-poll/

According to the Washington Post-ABC News survey,Clinton’s lead has expanded over the Illinois senator, and is now at 53 percent to 30 percent among Democrats and Democratic-leading independents surveyed between Sept. 28 through Sept. 30. Her support is up 12 points in just three weeks while Obama's has fallen 7 points. Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards ranked at 13 percent.

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Poll puts Sanders on presidential race radar [View all] cali Oct 2014 OP

4 whole percent huh? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #1

why yes, 'Nilla. did you read where Dean was at the same time prior to his run? cali Oct 2014 #5

i forget . .Did Dean win? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #7

Hillary And Bill are CLOSE Friends Of The Bushes billhicks76 Oct 2014 #50

So Bill is George Sr.'s 5th son. Hoppy Oct 2014 #57

True billhicks76 Oct 2014 #90

so Fucking what...the pool of contemporaries that HAVE been in the Whitehouse is a rather VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #67

Wow...Did I Touch A Nerve? billhicks76 Oct 2014 #96

No I am having a ball! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #98

Keep Laughing billhicks76 Oct 2014 #107

I will THANKS!!!! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #108

Nice Try billhicks76 Oct 2014 #115

I am not "trying" anything....I am laughing my ass off! And its going swimmingly! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #116

this is what you call discussion? G_j Oct 2014 #127

and If I am just responding to those that keep responding to me? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #128

You Never Actually Conversed billhicks76 Oct 2014 #131

Yes I did...several times....do you think you were the only person I was speaking to? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #132

Uh Thats Untrue Too billhicks76 Oct 2014 #133

Oh so you are the arbiter of what is or isn't conversation now? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #142

Yes, he is. We had a vote and billhicks76 won. smokey nj Oct 2014 #145

Good for him.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #146

I Don't Believe We Should Nominate Bernie billhicks76 Oct 2014 #157

I think we should push for the one we think is right. It sends the wrong message to support Dustlawyer Oct 2014 #175

Eugene Debs billhicks76 Oct 2014 #243

We CAN'T nominate Sanders, he's not a Democrat. George II Oct 2014 #236

I haven't seen you "converse" even once on this forum... beerandjesus Oct 2014 #181

right because anyone who supports the VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #183

No, you're a troll because all you do is troll people with actual opinions. beerandjesus Oct 2014 #185

you are currently supporting a third party VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #196

Once again, no substance. beerandjesus Oct 2014 #198

just because you dont like the substsnce doesnt VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #202

Troll. beerandjesus Oct 2014 #204

right a Democrat supporting Democrats on VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #205

Troll. beerandjesus Oct 2014 #207

why dont you VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #208

Troll. beerandjesus Oct 2014 #209

are you committed to sypport the Democratic Primary VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #210

Troll. beerandjesus Oct 2014 #212

Are you committed to support the Primary winner VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #213

Troll. beerandjesus Oct 2014 #214

will you support the Democratic Primary VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #215

Troll beerandjesus Oct 2014 #216

I am the troll but YOU VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #218

Troll. beerandjesus Oct 2014 #220

sure I am...a staunch Democrat on a Democratic VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #223

Tell us ONE Democratic issue you support, troll. beerandjesus Oct 2014 #225

How about Equal Pay! How about Reproductive Rights....how about LGBT rights VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #248

Hey! Welcome back to the fold. beerandjesus Oct 2014 #258

You Are ProNSA On Every Thread Related To That billhicks76 Oct 2014 #244

Its Always proNSA BS With People Who Have Hijacked Our Party And Online Forums billhicks76 Oct 2014 #245

Oh really please link... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #249

Haha billhicks76 Oct 2014 #286

Please link where I "shilled" for them....its not a good idea to accuse others of getting paid here. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #287

and I am saying YOU are....you cannot even commit to voting for whom the Democrats select in the VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #297

If Jeb Bush Became A Democrat billhicks76 Oct 2014 #296

+1 Marr Oct 2014 #308

While the article isn't specific Babel_17 Oct 2014 #200

if you support a non Democrat... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #203

The poll specified a Democratic primary Babel_17 Oct 2014 #226

So what....some say Bernie WILL become a Democrat....he cannot WIN the primary VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #251

Exactly, so what is your point? Babel_17 Oct 2014 #268

If you are NOT a Democrat and you are NOT a Republican you ARE a Third Party VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #250

Check what I said, and what is predicated by the poll Babel_17 Oct 2014 #269

THAT poll doesn't change the fact that you MUST be a Democrat to win the Democratic Primary VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #271

No, I'm supporting the idea of Senator Sanders running as a Democrat Babel_17 Oct 2014 #278

but at this point its fantasy....think about it.....do you think all the other Democrats are going VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #283

Are you serious? Babel_17 Oct 2014 #288

It was fantasy pure and simple... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #290

SOOOO.....EVEN IF Sanders became a Democrat....he only has 4% now VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #298

There you go again, suggesting the party is a club owned by insiders. Marr Oct 2014 #309

and that is not what I said at all.. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #311

Uh-huh. Marr Oct 2014 #312

While you're laughing your ass off, you're completely missing the point kysrsoze Oct 2014 #232

uh how does 4% mean you can take over the Dem. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #234

Troll. beerandjesus Oct 2014 #240

I know real ones vote for whomever wins the Democratic Primary... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #252

It comes down to being a party line Democrat ozone_man Oct 2014 #255

It comes down to.....are you committed to support the Democratic Primary winner....duly elected VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #256

Not a Democrat in name only. ozone_man Oct 2014 #282

Then you ARE committed to vote for the candidate that your FELLOW Democrats ELECTED VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #284

The ROTFL guy is particularly ineffective. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #56

Only if it is YOUR candidate that is getting the VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #68

I still have a President fadedrose Oct 2014 #126

Did Hillary? Marr Oct 2014 #141

Dean's movement is still going strong and making a difference. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #165

Hillary was leading at this time in 2006 also. Dawgs Oct 2014 #12

by 64%? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #14

She still lost. Dawgs Oct 2014 #15

and SHE has 64% NOW! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #16

Good thing for America 64% doesn't mean shit a year and half before the election. n/t Dawgs Oct 2014 #17

you keep telling yourself that VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #21

It did in 2008. Dawgs Oct 2014 #24

apparently not She's still here and stronger VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #26

She is no stronger than ever. Re-uninevitable. morningfog Oct 2014 #34

What part of 64% of Democrats favor her is "Re"? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #69

In 2007 and 2008, her presidency was presented with morningfog Oct 2014 #100

I was about to post the same thing. It's all about name recognition now, hedgehog Oct 2014 #176

Yes, she is.... daleanime Oct 2014 #49

Oh now the accusation is she is BUYING the 64%? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #74

I made no such accusation, that's all on you.... daleanime Oct 2014 #137

Another thread clogged with LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #291

If you support Bernie Sanders you support Third Party.. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #292

Mission Accomplished! LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #293

Whatevah! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #294

Hillary Clinton's high poll numbers are to a great extent due to name recognition. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #166

Absolutely correct! It's like fans who gloat about their team's exhibition season victories RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #229

Looks like President-elect Hillary's got some genuine Joementum. Get used to it, Dawgs! RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #228

The most visible candidate has the highest support before the campaign starts? Alittleliberal Oct 2014 #134

aahahahahahaha....Wow just wow.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #135

"a massive war machine," you say? Perfect. A Freudian slip perhaps? RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #230

War mongers unite! grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #277

Hahaha billhicks76 Oct 2014 #299

Your Comments Are As Much A Joke As Your Sarcastic Emoji billhicks76 Oct 2014 #104

suuuuuurrrrrreeee..... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #106

Do you think Hillary would make a good candidate? JDPriestly Oct 2014 #167

Chirp, chirp..... blackspade Oct 2014 #172

Exactly. VR has no opinions. We do. beerandjesus Oct 2014 #186

I think you mean 'Team Free Republic' rather than 'Team Hillary'. beerandjesus Oct 2014 #184

Well one is polling at 8% and the other is polling at 4% n/t hootinholler Oct 2014 #27

and one is at 64% VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #30

But you said *real* Democrats. hootinholler Oct 2014 #112

sorry you are going to get your heart broken.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #136

Thanks for agreeing with me hootinholler Oct 2014 #152

More real than someone who cannot commit to voting for the Democratic Primary winner VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #253

4% is better than Obama had at this time in 2006 when Hillary had 35%. Check this poll... thesquanderer Oct 2014 #40

and so is 64% VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #41

You are doing a bang-up job setting yourself up AtomicKitten Oct 2014 #64

why? I am committed to voting for whomever wins the Primary....aren't you? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #75

well bullywoogers for you AtomicKitten Oct 2014 #109

hahahahahahahahaha..... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #110

good lord you are a silly person AtomicKitten Oct 2014 #117

No I am a satisfied person..... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #118

Yes! MoonchildCA Oct 2014 #163

No! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #180

Wow, you freely admit to placing party before Country. Nice to know. n/t A Simple Game Oct 2014 #171

I freely admit to being a Democrat on Democratic VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #182

Yes, anyone that admits supporting an unknown candidate because of a letter after their name should A Simple Game Oct 2014 #187

an unknown? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #189

I blindly supported Democrats for over 20 years and it did indeed slow the A Simple Game Oct 2014 #193

you must have missed the part that says... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #195

See, a Democrat would know how to use "Democrat" and Democratic" properly beerandjesus Oct 2014 #222

There's also a part about electing the most liberal candidate possible A Simple Game Oct 2014 #224

BUT....and its a BIG BUT.....it says in the MISSION STATEMENT not just the terms of service VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #254

By the way, how come you never chime on on threads about the Kansas Senate race? beerandjesus Oct 2014 #192

Hillary Is Our Romney billhicks76 Oct 2014 #300

Vanilla is a troll with no skin in the game. beerandjesus Oct 2014 #227

I'm no Hillary supporter, but it does no one any good to compare poll numbers to 2008... Drunken Irishman Oct 2014 #261

just cursory research reveals AtomicKitten Oct 2014 #272

You're side stepping the point... Drunken Irishman Oct 2014 #273

I would caution you against absolute certainty... AtomicKitten Oct 2014 #274

I never said I was certain Hillary would win - but it's foolish to suggest 2008 is anywhere similar. Drunken Irishman Oct 2014 #280

and arent you doing the same? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #295

Interesting. OilemFirchen Oct 2014 #52

Obama wasn't included in that poll. Drunken Irishman Oct 2014 #263

If you're going to quote a poll, quote one that actually asks about Obama... Drunken Irishman Oct 2014 #262

I think that link supports my post more than yours! thesquanderer Oct 2014 #267

It doesn't support your claim at all. Drunken Irishman Oct 2014 #270

Unfortunately the leader in that poll is indistinguishable from a Republican. blackcrowflies Oct 2014 #65

exactly right AtomicKitten Oct 2014 #66

Yeah that is what all the Independents on DU are saying these days.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #76

Plenty of time for those numbers to shift. eom saltpoint Oct 2014 #71

You keep telling yourself that too.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #77

She sure had it goin' last time before she got saltpoint Oct 2014 #246

Like no one has ever been defeated and made a comeback huh? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #247

She had the same last time is the point. saltpoint Oct 2014 #260

Oh no my friend....she has MUCH MORE now....you will see... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #264

She leads now. She also led last time. saltpoint Oct 2014 #276

SOOO??? She is STILL in POLL position! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #285

You Confuse Me billhicks76 Oct 2014 #301

Trust me....you were confused before you came across me.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #303

Total BS billhicks76 Oct 2014 #304

a DEMOCRAT supports the DEMOCRATIC Party.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #305

Hillary Acts Like A Monarch billhicks76 Oct 2014 #306

bullshit... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #307

Wrong billhicks76 Oct 2014 #310

There should be a penalty for the stupid use of ROTFLOL HERVEPA Oct 2014 #89

Only when it is directed at YOUR side natch! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #91

You have no idea of my side. It's just a stupid use. HERVEPA Oct 2014 #92

Uh yeah I do.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #93

If she's the nominee, yes. Not my first choice. HERVEPA Oct 2014 #101

ANY Democrat that is elected by Primary by your fellow Democrats! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #111

Including Bernie of course. HERVEPA Oct 2014 #123

First he has to become one.....then he has to convince the Party to support him.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #139

The way democracy works, Bernie has to convince voters to support him, not "the party". dflprincess Oct 2014 #150

Voting for whomever wins the primary is how democracy works? DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2014 #138

Uh yes.....that's what elections are for! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #140

By "real democrats" do you mean the warmongers and corporate lickspittles? Magoo48 Oct 2014 #191

Troll hard. eom TransitJohn Oct 2014 #275

Great news, cali for both Senators! I love it! n/t sadoldgirl Oct 2014 #2

K&R woo me with science Oct 2014 #3

Ya gotta start somewhere. RUN, Bernie. Run. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2014 #4

Apparently, the 64% supporting Hillary have stronger nose-holding devices than I do. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2014 #6

apparently THEY are the Democrats as only VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #8

I'm a Democrat. And, have often held my nose for the "lesser of two evils" Democrats. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2014 #10

not everyone who votes FOR Democrats are. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #11

Independants voting for Hillary? Dawgs Oct 2014 #13

who else they got when she wins the Primary? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #28

Noone Robbins Oct 2014 #31

says the Independent VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #43

+1 deutsey Oct 2014 #178

I am not doing that this time Robbins Oct 2014 #18

hello there Independent VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #23

Independent? Robbins Oct 2014 #35

Any response to the actual issues or points of contention mentioned? think Oct 2014 #37

my response VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #44

Hilarious..../nt think Oct 2014 #48

So, no tkmorris Oct 2014 #61

Actually I am a Democrat on DU who is committed to vote for the Democratic Primary winner VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #82

Obviously, your principles concerning party differ from mine and TJ's. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2014 #119

My principles are....I VOTE for Democrats..... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #121

Thomas Jefferson wrote the quote above. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2014 #148

I AM voting my Principles.....my Principles tell me....do NOT let Republicans win.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #149

As I said, your principles obviously differ from mine and TJ's. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2014 #151

64%....how is THAT for point! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #78

what a hollow way to decide your personal politics LiberalLovinLug Oct 2014 #241

I never like the DEM I always vote for every election. nt m-lekktor Oct 2014 #19

like I said.....you might be an Independent VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #22

ARE you committed to vote for the Primary winner? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #72

No. I'm not "committed" to any party or candidate. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2014 #113

Hello Independent Voter! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #114

Do you call this lunatic a Democrat? I sure don't. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #63

Do we have to call you one? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #79

I am a Democrat, yes. One can be one and not lick Hillary's feet. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #83

If you are not committed to voting for the winner of the Primary you are not! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #84

and the winner is?... LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #85

A DEMOCRAT!!!! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #86

and Hillary Is The Only Democrat... what are YOU drinking? LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #95

she is the ONLY one polling at 64% and can beat every single Republican comer VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #97

I got deja vu of 2008. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #103

So... were you "happy" when Clinton didn't win in 2008 and you HAD to vote for Obama? cascadiance Oct 2014 #159

+1000 n/t MissDeeds Oct 2014 #188

Same here deutsey Oct 2014 #177

The comparison with Dean is interesting BeyondGeography Oct 2014 #9

Giving Kucinich a run for his money! OilemFirchen Oct 2014 #20

hahahaha that was clever! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #25

Will history repeat itself? OilemFirchen Oct 2014 #33

close only counts in horseshoes VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #45

If he runs he will make it interesting but i am supporting Hillary. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #29

thank you for your grace and civility .nt. AtomicKitten Oct 2014 #122

Your welcome. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #130

I'm in a similar spot. I love Bernie and hope he runs, but I am supporting Hillary. stevenleser Oct 2014 #194

They should both run if they choose to. MineralMan Oct 2014 #32

and they will VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #46

Maybe they will. We'll see in 2016. MineralMan Oct 2014 #62

Hillary's running....much to their chagrin! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #81

Obama, is laughing at you! cascadiance Oct 2014 #160

Biased poll. RoccoR5955 Oct 2014 #36

Some of these replies make me chuckle. democrank Oct 2014 #38

I don't know if they are the same posts... tk2kewl Oct 2014 #42

Yeah because getting things done for Barack Obama.....has just been a breeze right? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #87

I'm gonna take a hit for this... SoapBox Oct 2014 #39

I think you're right. But having him in the conversation will hopefully highlight more progressive nomorenomore08 Oct 2014 #47

He wouldn't be running to win but geek tragedy Oct 2014 #53

Sadly, we audition people to play president, rather than elect people to BE president arcane1 Oct 2014 #54

Very True harun Oct 2014 #206

Yes, unfortunately. ozone_man Oct 2014 #257

no, but he sure has the ability to focus the attention of people on issues that would otherwise cali Oct 2014 #59

Unfortunately theater has a lot to do with it. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #73

"Presence"? Perhaps not, but I prefer substance. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2014 #99

Thanks folks... SoapBox Oct 2014 #129

(as an example) way back when, I supported Jesse Jackson in the primaries G_j Oct 2014 #144

I know what you're saying, MoonchildCA Oct 2014 #164

4% is nothing to celebrate. geek tragedy Oct 2014 #51

Good. JoeyT Oct 2014 #55

Hey! OilemFirchen Oct 2014 #58

While I don't have money to spare sadoldgirl Oct 2014 #60

If Sanders runs... saltpoint Oct 2014 #70

If he runs it may stir up populace support for candidates other then the Oligarchy's favorite. nm rhett o rick Oct 2014 #238

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #80

Cool- he's on the radar officially. panader0 Oct 2014 #88

so was Kucinich once... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #94

What IS your agenda? You're not doing your candidate a service. panader0 Oct 2014 #102

Bernie is NOT a Democrat....I favor Democrats.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #105

"The Democrat primary..." beerandjesus Oct 2014 #217

I am on a phone...duh mistype VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #219

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #221

Wow-- yeah, I've got to say, that settles it for me. Marr Oct 2014 #313

YEP. Rex Oct 2014 #314

Its agenda is to bully and disrupt. smokey nj Oct 2014 #120

...^ that - Go Bernie! 840high Oct 2014 #154

Yep. Guys' got a real rage-on for Bernie. Union Scribe Oct 2014 #155

Why is always a good question to ask. The answer, I believe, is fear. canoeist52 Oct 2014 #233

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #161

Can we have just one discussion about the 2016 race without a certain someone highjacking the Stardust Oct 2014 #124

doesn't look too good G_j Oct 2014 #125

Hey, when you get paid to do a job, you do it. Marr Oct 2014 #147

They make me miss ProSense. Union Scribe Oct 2014 #156

Yeah, at least the Pro was coherent. Marr Oct 2014 #158

Hillary Is Toast And Trolls Paid Or Not Can't Change It billhicks76 Oct 2014 #302

That one views competition as apocalyptic to Hillary neverforget Oct 2014 #162

I haven't noticed anyone hijacking the thread Capt. Obvious Oct 2014 #199

Not till that certain someone gets banned for trolling beerandjesus Oct 2014 #239

Alternate headline: Poll Shows Sanders with Statistically Insignificant Support tritsofme Oct 2014 #143

Great news, thanks for posting this n/t emulatorloo Oct 2014 #153

But god forbid you saying you are going to vote against Hillary davidpdx Oct 2014 #168

He doesn't have her name recognition and arthritisR_US Oct 2014 #169

OMG, what a pissing session!!!! SmittynMo Oct 2014 #170

LMAO! n/t marym625 Oct 2014 #173

It's 2 years away marym625 Oct 2014 #174

SC Nominees! Gamecock Lefty Oct 2014 #179

Run, Bernie, run! MissDeeds Oct 2014 #190

I predict Sanders will soon be at 10 percent Babel_17 Oct 2014 #197

Agree 100% Brewinblue Oct 2014 #231

Just to be clear, the poll is in regards to the Democratic primary Babel_17 Oct 2014 #201

Suppose we know for a FACT Bernie cannot win DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #211

And Dean didn't win the nomination. George II Oct 2014 #235

That must be one heck of a poweful radar... FBaggins Oct 2014 #237

Interesting! n/t DirkGently Oct 2014 #242

Bernie! Recommended. nt Zorra Oct 2014 #259

Run, Bernie! Run! nt magical thyme Oct 2014 #265

Not bad for a candidate this far out mmonk Oct 2014 #266

He's generating all kinds of excitement Babel_17 Oct 2014 #279

Oh dear! Rex Oct 2014 #281

Wow, 288 posts! Babel_17 Oct 2014 #289