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98. Here is the case I was thinking about.

Thu Oct 9, 2014, 04:07 PM

Oct 2014

Killed at Home White Plains, NY Police Called Out on Medical Alert Shoot Dead Black Veteran, 68

The most I can find on that case is there was a lawsuit. Doesn't look like anyone was held accountable. Shameful!

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St. Louis teen "was wearing an ankle bracelet at the time he died [View all] pintobean Oct 2014 OP

I heard it was actually a sandwich he tossed into the drain linuxman Oct 2014 #1

The incident in the OP is a prior incident.... AZ Mike Oct 2014 #3

I heard that a cousin said it wasn't an ankle bracelet pintobean Oct 2014 #5

What An Ugly Remark otohara Oct 2014 #163

DU jumping to conclusions before all the facts are released, Nah, that never happens. Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #2

Not sure what you're getting at. savalez Oct 2014 #109

Ill quote somebody else from this thread Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #122

I was skeptical that this was a cover up by the police last night scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author NightWatcher Oct 2014 #6

He was violating the conditions of his bail pintobean Oct 2014 #9

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #10

"Maybe liberals..." Spoken like someone who doesn't consider himself one. randome Oct 2014 #14

Are you kidding me? Oktober Oct 2014 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author NightWatcher Oct 2014 #19

I don't think any of that would being going through the cops mind if he was scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #34

Did the suspect know he had been arrested and was illegally in position of a weapon? mythology Oct 2014 #139

How do you *not* know that you've been arrested? Travelman Oct 2014 #144

I think your sarcasm detector pintobean Oct 2014 #149

Probably so. Travelman Oct 2014 #153

Of course past behavior is reasonable to consider, ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #31

But past behavior will give more credence to the cop's version of events. randome Oct 2014 #44

You mean in court? ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #45

Well, the judges seemed to think he was low risk when they lowered his bail and logosoco Oct 2014 #76

Unfortunately, the past behavior we're considering is that of the police Warpy Oct 2014 #152

What did he do that merits his now being dead? Beaverhausen Oct 2014 #11

He gave it a good try it seems... Oktober Oct 2014 #13

according to whom? Beaverhausen Oct 2014 #17

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #25

Get your racist ass outta here! bravenak Oct 2014 #28

That was the quickest jury I've ever served on... Glassunion Oct 2014 #32

Good job!!! Some people make you wish their mothers were on birth control that month.nt bravenak Oct 2014 #40

7-0, hopefully? DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2014 #170

Had just went to alert on that bullshit... giftedgirl77 Oct 2014 #33

Prepare yourself for another month of mind numbing insanity!! bravenak Oct 2014 #39

I know, they're like sharks... giftedgirl77 Oct 2014 #43

Your first post is a load of racist tripe. Hope your pizza arrives soon. riqster Oct 2014 #29

That was me scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #54

Fired a gun at the cop. pintobean Oct 2014 #15

Apparently, he fired a sandwich at the cop. Travelman Oct 2014 #80

Flying pickles are lethal. savalez Oct 2014 #107

He shot at an officer 3 times Aerows Oct 2014 #145

and you are positive about that? Beaverhausen Oct 2014 #147

Ballistics confirmed Aerows Oct 2014 #148

link? Beaverhausen Oct 2014 #151

Latest I can find Aerows Oct 2014 #154

Nothing in there says ballistics tests on the kid Beaverhausen Oct 2014 #157

The officer was off duty, wasn't he? Raine1967 Oct 2014 #23

In uniform Aerows Oct 2014 #155

Blech. Raine1967 Oct 2014 #166

This message was self-deleted by its author napkinz Oct 2014 #7

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #8

"...Nothing in the court file indicates any violations...." uponit7771 Oct 2014 #16

Good to know it was justified murder. dilby Oct 2014 #18

Firing on a cop is never a good idea pintobean Oct 2014 #20

However firing on a unknown attacker is if one wants to try and live. dilby Oct 2014 #24

You seem to be going by pintobean Oct 2014 #26

Was in uniform but not in a police vehicle. dilby Oct 2014 #35

Maybe not, but I bet this young man could. pintobean Oct 2014 #37

Didn't the report say they had a physical altercation before he took off running? scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #42

It seems they knew he was a cop scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #48

The article is not clear on why the cop was after the guys in the first place. logosoco Oct 2014 #21

It doesn't matter Travelman Oct 2014 #86

It matters to me. logosoco Oct 2014 #91

"Why" seems so quaint and obsolete in this new era of Might makes Right. But, yeah, KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #113

Live by the sword die by the sword boomer55 Oct 2014 #22

Cops live by the sword. Iggo Oct 2014 #58

+1 bravenak Oct 2014 #142

fucking tragic n/t orleans Oct 2014 #27

I agree with that. /nt pintobean Oct 2014 #30

How come routine pedestrian stops always happen to black people?? bravenak Oct 2014 #36

Brown folks as well, I posted earlier about all the times giftedgirl77 Oct 2014 #41

I mean really, what the fuck is this shit? bravenak Oct 2014 #47

Exactly, we've been seeing the same old lines & excuses giftedgirl77 Oct 2014 #52

Never gollygee Oct 2014 #49

That hurts my feelings. bravenak Oct 2014 #56

That is terrifying! gollygee Oct 2014 #61

I think we need more people filming everything they do. bravenak Oct 2014 #73

+1 !! gollygee Oct 2014 #77

That is awful, I am sorry. I am sorry that the cops have so many apologists in this country sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #85

Ah, Sabrina, I know YOU would NEVER condone this crap. bravenak Oct 2014 #88

I know it isn't just NY, sadly. Clearly it is widespread. I definitely agree that everyone should sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #96

Here is the case I was thinking about. sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #98

Wow, that same cop was involved in a racism case in 2008. bravenak Oct 2014 #100

I didn't know that. I know I will get flamed for this, but our 'Civilian' police are out of control sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #162

I can't argue with that pintobean Oct 2014 #57

The reports seem to be rather vague on numerous points but a police magazine was emptied. gordianot Oct 2014 #135

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Bullshit. bravenak Oct 2014 #65

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #70

You get disappeared pintobean Oct 2014 #66

Bullshit. gollygee Oct 2014 #69

I used to get stopped all the time Lurker Deluxe Oct 2014 #71

Yeah, you would have. bravenak Oct 2014 #75

I remember one instance ... Lurker Deluxe Oct 2014 #83

No, we cannot. And don't want to. bravenak Oct 2014 #84

I agree Lurker Deluxe Oct 2014 #89

it's never happened to me, but notadmblnd Oct 2014 #116

I am so glad I have girls. bravenak Oct 2014 #118

when my husband and I found out we were having a child, we wanted a girl notadmblnd Oct 2014 #129

Weird, I didn't know violating house arrest was an giftedgirl77 Oct 2014 #38

pretty much shooting at a cop is though. boomer55 Oct 2014 #46

Oh yeah, the cop who just murdered someone said this? giftedgirl77 Oct 2014 #55

The forensics certainly seem to say that Travelman Oct 2014 #92

Gotta link because this story says none of that. giftedgirl77 Oct 2014 #115

The link in the OP say all of that pintobean Oct 2014 #119

The link in the OP certainly has it for me Travelman Oct 2014 #120

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That's out of line man scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #60

This is what we call complete & utter bullshit. giftedgirl77 Oct 2014 #62

Don't anyone copy and paste this crap pintobean Oct 2014 #63

Time for you to go home Darren. bravenak Oct 2014 #67

So many people take whatever the police say as god-given irrefutable fact n2doc Oct 2014 #51

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #64

Goodbye. bravenak Oct 2014 #68

Goodbye Mr Wilson. Iggo Oct 2014 #72

So, you are pre-judging someone you don't know because of past behaviors of other in their group joeglow3 Oct 2014 #74

I am not accepting the Police Chief's word as fact n2doc Oct 2014 #79

I treat him no different than I would anyone else joeglow3 Oct 2014 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author NightWatcher Oct 2014 #53

The article doesn't state he was involved in a previous shooting fyi Quayblue Oct 2014 #82

Both the gun and the rounds he is alleged to have fired at the cop Travelman Oct 2014 #93

This is another one of those cases... theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #78

And so the smearing of the victim begins. dballance Oct 2014 #87

By his own lawyer, too. pintobean Oct 2014 #94

From most accounts madville Oct 2014 #101

Intuition tells cops to constantly stop black men and steal their money too. bravenak Oct 2014 #106

But this cop didn't stop them randomly madville Oct 2014 #112

I would run if I saw an officer too. bravenak Oct 2014 #114

No, he could not legally possess a handgun. Mugu Oct 2014 #123

You cannot tell by looking at someone if they are 18 or 21. bravenak Oct 2014 #124

As I pointed out up-thread pintobean Oct 2014 #127

Police chose to ignore that they are profiling black people and treat them differently. bravenak Oct 2014 #130

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #132

I lived smack dab in the middle of gang territory. bravenak Oct 2014 #133

I didn't say anyone was happy pintobean Oct 2014 #134

Oh, Excuse me. You said his neighbors are relieved he got killed by a cop. bravenak Oct 2014 #137

Lol. pintobean Oct 2014 #138

I know, right?? bravenak Oct 2014 #141

completely and utterly wrong. It's 18. cali Oct 2014 #146

Technically, an 18yo may own a handgun. Mugu Oct 2014 #168

The gun has been traced back Jenoch Oct 2014 #90

Interesting reading... Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #95

What I do not find surprising Jenoch Oct 2014 #99

Maybe if cops stopped profiling and harassing people, we would stop profiling them. bravenak Oct 2014 #102

You're doing a lot of assuming Jenoch Oct 2014 #105

Cops do alot of assuming too. bravenak Oct 2014 #110

A lot of people won't believe you, I can see from this thread, but everyone here KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #121

I was around for the Rampart scandal. bravenak Oct 2014 #126

Cops get off the hook.... Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #97

That's brilliant!!!! greytdemocrat Oct 2014 #103

but this seems to be not so much about his record but that he had a gun and cali Oct 2014 #104

Since the cop was off-duty and working a second job Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #111

I believe he was in police uniform. cali Oct 2014 #125

I',m trashing this thread alcibiades_mystery Oct 2014 #108

In other words pintobean Oct 2014 #128

Can't really fault the officer in this case. Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #117

In order to accept the cops' version of what happened, one has to discard KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #131

Who are these eye witnesses? pintobean Oct 2014 #136

"Eye witness" may be something of a misnomer, but there is a video still shot of KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #140

But he shot at the cop whether he had a sandwich in his hand or not scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #143

Oh, Myers shot at a cop, did he? You've personally seen the independent forensics KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #160

Eyewitness accounts Aerows Oct 2014 #156

Maybe I'm behind the curve here, but as far as I'm aware, there has been KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #161

I don't think this is some big police conspiracy or cover up here. NaturalHigh Oct 2014 #150

They are saying he ran damnedifIknow Oct 2014 #158

In a vacuum, maybe Travelman Oct 2014 #159

your OP is largely consistent with your posts about Trayvon Martin CreekDog Oct 2014 #164

You won't get an answer. Not before December anyway. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2014 #165

oh CreekDog Oct 2014 #169

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. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2014 #174

Yes and people should note his own lawyer saying it representativepress Oct 2014 #167

I'm still not sure that justifies shooting the kid 17 times. Jamastiene Oct 2014 #171