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riversedge

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78. yes, the aca is health Insurance reform....

Thu Oct 9, 2014, 03:09 PM

Oct 2014

I have lots of gripes about it also.

Our gov did not expand Medicaid. then he and his Repug buddies made it so those that do qualify for Badger-care (Wisconsin's medicaid program) only at 100 % of the Fed poverty level vs 138 as specified by aca. While many get substitutes--many can not afford the insurance at all.

anyway, I know lots who got kicked of Badgercare only to be put on aca (several have the lowest level of purchase___??? Bronze??) with large co-pays. they seldom see the doc even when very sick cause of the large co-pays. Yes, the health insurance 'reform' does leave out so many. Any states such as ours are double hit.

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next time someone bashes ACA [View all] strawberries Oct 2014 OP

Wow What a series of events. merrily Oct 2014 #1

So you got yours zipplewrath Oct 2014 #2

Your post is seething with hate and resentment. Why? You are blaming the WRONG Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #3

+1000 JoePhilly Oct 2014 #4

I do to some extent zipplewrath Oct 2014 #7

??? ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #28

And in 2010? zipplewrath Oct 2014 #46

Sp the ACA is working, right? eom. 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #48

For who? zipplewrath Oct 2014 #50

For the many more Millions ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #53

The OP was an anecdotal reference zipplewrath Oct 2014 #59

Why don't you blame the Republican-led states refusing the Medicaid expansion pnwmom Oct 2014 #57

This isn't about blame zipplewrath Oct 2014 #58

The ACA is effective, when it is followed. The states that chose to reject the free Medicaid funds pnwmom Oct 2014 #62

The ACA explicitly stated who would not be covered zipplewrath Oct 2014 #65

You are wrong about that. There is no language in the ACA pnwmom Oct 2014 #68

Well, that's not exactly correct ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #70

Right. And this Ebola problem should make people rethink that. n/t pnwmom Oct 2014 #71

Very true ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #72

Yes, there is zipplewrath Oct 2014 #74

Please cite the language that you are talking about. n/t pnwmom Oct 2014 #79

You don't know how to use Google? zipplewrath Oct 2014 #82

So? It's still not the Dems fault that the Rethugs prevented the Medicaid expansion. pnwmom Oct 2014 #83

No zipplewrath Oct 2014 #85

No, there isn't. That's only the case for people who would fit into the Medicaid expansion. pnwmom Oct 2014 #86

Not according to Kaiser zipplewrath Oct 2014 #89

yes, the aca is health Insurance reform.... riversedge Oct 2014 #78

That isn't the fault of the ACA. It's the fault of your Rethug governor who turned down free Federal pnwmom Oct 2014 #80

yes, it is. Basically, our gov riversedge Oct 2014 #94

I'm projecting? Really? Why would I be projecting? I'm not the one who is misdirecting anger at the Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #41

I'm not a psychic zipplewrath Oct 2014 #47

LS isn't "projecting" ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #49

Probably zipplewrath Oct 2014 #51

Nevermind, you keep doing ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #55

Have your victory lap zipplewrath Oct 2014 #61

Actually, (to extend the analogy) ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #67

I'm afraid you've wandered into pit road zipplewrath Oct 2014 #75

Liberal pundits, both, economists and policy folsk, disagree ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #87

I don't have to zipplewrath Oct 2014 #91

Of course you don't ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #93

It was in work prior to ACA zipplewrath Oct 2014 #100

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #112

All I'm saying zipplewrath Oct 2014 #113

You almost had me believing you were going to engage reasonably ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #114

Hey, you're the one that finished on a snark. zipplewrath Oct 2014 #115

You need to look up what the word PROJECTION means Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #97

half a dozen agree with you and I'm wrong zipplewrath Oct 2014 #106

Your post should be about how we will fix this in the future with Single Payer, rather than grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #76

I've made countless statements in the past Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #98

Thank you for this reply. CakeGrrl Oct 2014 #81

Wow Kber Oct 2014 #5

For various values of significant zipplewrath Oct 2014 #6

Your information is wrong. The CBO says that under the ACA, 20 million Americans pnwmom Oct 2014 #60

Different comparison zipplewrath Oct 2014 #64

Wrong. The link I provided compared the numbers this year to those of one year ago, not 2010. pnwmom Oct 2014 #69

Same difference zipplewrath Oct 2014 #73

You still haven't provided any link to support your claim. n/t pnwmom Oct 2014 #84

It was just in all the papers zipplewrath Oct 2014 #92

That article talks about rates 7 years ago. Nothing to do with the ACA. n/t pnwmom Oct 2014 #95

That was the original basis of comparison zipplewrath Oct 2014 #102

That's because that was the most recent statistic -- THEN. It makes no sense to compare pnwmom Oct 2014 #117

That's moving the goal posts zipplewrath Oct 2014 #118

And that is still the goal. But no one EVER (except you maybe) thought that was supposed to pnwmom Oct 2014 #120

No one was advertising that after year 1 it'd be only 2% decrease. zipplewrath Oct 2014 #123

It's a 23% decrease -- at least. This was written last April, pnwmom Oct 2014 #126

Again, you're moving the goal posts zipplewrath Oct 2014 #129

You've got things exactly backward. If you go back to when the ACA was first passed, pnwmom Oct 2014 #131

The numbers don't support that zipplewrath Oct 2014 #133

I have no idea what you're even saying now. "We are now at 13ish percent coverage." pnwmom Oct 2014 #134

It's from your own post zipplewrath Oct 2014 #135

"13 percent coverage" is the opposite of 13% uninsured. And the quote you cite pnwmom Oct 2014 #136

They asked zipplewrath Oct 2014 #109

How very sad you would do this. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #8

Then the OP shouldn't say send them to me if you hear someone criticize the ACA scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #10

It was a figure of speach strawberries Oct 2014 #11

So they dont' REALLY wanna hear? zipplewrath Oct 2014 #13

I understand that but it was a figure of speech you should have left out in your post. scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #16

Please do write the President.. of course he would care, strawberries. So glad for your son & fam! Cha Oct 2014 #37

Um, they ASKED zipplewrath Oct 2014 #12

'''If someone knows something about RCC please let me know.''' LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #19

I guess you missed this part zipplewrath Oct 2014 #20

geezus. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #22

Allah zipplewrath Oct 2014 #27

Jeezus. JaneyVee Oct 2014 #24

It has to start somewhere IronLionZion Oct 2014 #31

I wish there was evidence to support that zipplewrath Oct 2014 #45

Canada got single payer one province at a time IronLionZion Oct 2014 #88

Medicare has been around for 50 years zipplewrath Oct 2014 #90

Medicare has been around for 50 years IronLionZion Oct 2014 #96

Apparently it's a big leap zipplewrath Oct 2014 #101

Where did you get your made-up statistic that 50% of people who got "support from the exchanges" pnwmom Oct 2014 #56

From when ACA was passed zipplewrath Oct 2014 #108

Link, please. n/t pnwmom Oct 2014 #116

I've given you several zipplewrath Oct 2014 #119

No, you haven't, except to the one link with 2006-7 figures. And you're not giving me a link to pnwmom Oct 2014 #121

again zipplewrath Oct 2014 #124

This is a matter of simple logic. The subsidies are calculated and SET to be no more pnwmom Oct 2014 #125

So you don't have site zipplewrath Oct 2014 #132

How insensitive treestar Oct 2014 #103

Because they asked zipplewrath Oct 2014 #110

I can post anything at any time treestar Oct 2014 #128

So your entire point is about tone? zipplewrath Oct 2014 #130

I have a brother in NC who works 2 part time jobs but doesn't make enough income to get a scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #9

tell him to move to a blue state strawberries Oct 2014 #14

I'm done with you scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #17

alrighty then nt strawberries Oct 2014 #18

He/She should probably edit out that snark. It was uncalled for . Sorry your brother can't SammyWinstonJack Oct 2014 #15

That makes no sense. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #23

I'm in NC. $278 for a bronze plan? How many people are on the plan? Lex Oct 2014 #29

You get a subsidy scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #33

So he makes too much money per year to get a subsidy? Lex Oct 2014 #34

too little scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #35

Oh, so he would qualify for the medicaid expansion if the Republican Gov. hadn't blocked it. Lex Oct 2014 #38

Yep scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #40

And why do you think that is? You should direct him to this link. pnwmom Oct 2014 #52

Yeah, if they live in a red state and voted blue treestar Oct 2014 #107

Doesn't make enough to get a subsidy? treestar Oct 2014 #105

many friends with pre-existing conditions who are big ACA fans spanone Oct 2014 #21

I'm glad they they found that cancer before he had symptoms. pnwmom Oct 2014 #25

thank you thank you strawberries Oct 2014 #44

My personal story GummyBearz Oct 2014 #26

Welcome to DU. My bill went down by more than half. Deductible is half what it was. Lex Oct 2014 #30

Thanks GummyBearz Oct 2014 #36

Yes, it does suck that your employer didn't keep your current plan Lex Oct 2014 #39

my insurance went up too strawberries Oct 2014 #43

Your old policy had an annual and lifetime limit on benefits. Do you know what they were? pnwmom Oct 2014 #54

You don't know that! WillowTree Oct 2014 #63

BS treestar Oct 2014 #104

I am happy for you... Phentex Oct 2014 #32

I break it down into the fundamentals. No more do employees have to rely on the boss Rex Oct 2014 #42

This President has indeed saved many lives, and will save many more. True Blue Door Oct 2014 #66

Wait til we have single payer!!! grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #77

You mean by laying back and letting the GOP take the Senate? CakeGrrl Oct 2014 #122

No I mean by proposing it as often as the GOP proposes repealing Obamacare, instead of grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #127

Here I am. LWolf Oct 2014 #99

Duck zipplewrath Oct 2014 #111