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marym625

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Fri Oct 10, 2014, 11:08 AM Oct 2014

I have some questions about the Shaw shooting [View all]

Last edited Fri Oct 10, 2014, 01:23 PM - Edit history (1)

I have read many reports about this story. There are conflicting stories, from the police and from the people v the police.

The stories from the police range from "he jumped from the bushes" and began a struggle with the officer, to he ran up a hill and started shooting at the officer. http://www.boston.com/news/nation/2014/10/09/the-louis-shooting-michael-brown-all-over-again/yRBAonyY59Zf1XtgUJBAqK/story.html

I don't know the layout of St Louis. Is it possible to have been in the places the officer claims Myers was after leaving the store? So he left the store, ended up however far it was from the store to where he was first sighted by the officer, then being chased in a vehicle then on foot only to end up back at the store all in 10 minutes time?

How is it these kids ran after the vehicle did a uturn but they fled after an attempted "pedestrian check." And what caused this supposed "pedestrian check" if they were just walking down the street?

How convenient is it that the gun found was one that was reported stolen? But how do you mix up the type of gun? I am not at all familiar with guns. I couldn't tell you the name of any gun by sight. But I am not a police officer. It was first identified as a Ruger then as a Smith & Wesson. Are they that similar they could be mistaken for each other? http://m.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/teen-died-from-gunshot-to-right-cheek-medical-examiner-says/article_2d5a8c2a-97db-5cec-a477-1130d7d26f7e.html?mobile_touch=true

Some witnesses say Myers was tased. Police say the police officer in question was not issued a taser. First off, why not? And that doesn't mean he didn't purchase one on his own or he wasn't issued one by the security company. A company that has had complaints against it for use of force. A company that has its website down.

The Chief has stated that they have the bullet and trajectory of the shots already studied. But they still don't have the gun powder tests from the victim. This is the easiest, fastest test available. How can an autopsy already be completed and gun trajectory done a day ago but no gun powder residue test completed? Don't forget, this is the same guy who, before knowing there was a video of the murder of Kajieme Powell, said that Powell was wielding the knife overhead at the officers.

Why was an off duty officer, working for a private security firm, wearing his uniform for a police department?

I have so many questions. There are too many inconsistencies. At this point, I don't know I will believe anything that comes from the police.


http://crooksandliars.com/2014/10/another-police-shooting-st-louis-white-cop

I'm seriously asking. I would love an answer to any of this. Especially the gun and the area.

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K&R because i wonder these things myself. logosoco Oct 2014 #1
My aunt owned a security company marym625 Oct 2014 #3
I have heard of Cabrini Green, not as familair with the Gold Coast (I assume it is along the lake?) logosoco Oct 2014 #5
I would guess it depends on the laws of the municipality marym625 Oct 2014 #7
That is interesting family history! logosoco Oct 2014 #9
Regardless of what they were doing marym625 Oct 2014 #10
My dh's sister & family YarnAddict Oct 2014 #21
Chicago EVERYWHERE has crime marym625 Oct 2014 #23
All big cities have crime everywhere, but where the price goes up, the crime goes down. whathehell Oct 2014 #79
That's a true statement marym625 Oct 2014 #80
Howdy neighbor! whathehell Oct 2014 #81
Even with the street crowed marym625 Oct 2014 #82
I hadn't heard of that.. whathehell Oct 2014 #86
I HATE Chicago winters marym625 Oct 2014 #88
I feel the same! whathehell Oct 2014 #106
the whole rest of the country is warmer than usual marym625 Oct 2014 #110
Is their crime in the Loop? Stellar Oct 2014 #98
Uhm, what? marym625 Oct 2014 #101
The Gold Coast is now one of the Wealthiest areas of the City -- Oprah lives there. whathehell Oct 2014 #77
My understanding is the victim wasn't under house arrest just limited movement... he could go uponit7771 Oct 2014 #15
Yeah you're right, I did use the incorrect term. logosoco Oct 2014 #17
RIGHT!! They're not explaining WHY the kid needed to be stopped uponit7771 Oct 2014 #18
The opening scene of this story madashelltoo Oct 2014 #2
Hadn't thought of that. marym625 Oct 2014 #4
Hey, once you've got a story that's been tested with a jury, Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #26
Good point! marym625 Oct 2014 #41
Yo, Mary. Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #42
awe! marym625 Oct 2014 #43
Far from unimaginable, sadly. nomorenomore08 Oct 2014 #100
Has the police officer who gunned down Myers been named or identified? Or is the KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #6
Honestly, I'm not sure marym625 Oct 2014 #8
I'm with you (although I do not recall hearing any officer's name mentioned on KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #11
I tried so hard to go marym625 Oct 2014 #12
One of my Socialist comrades from Chicago is making the trip there this weekend to KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #24
Absolutely amazing, the bravery these people have marym625 Oct 2014 #27
Not sure. We're limiting electronic discussion of tactics and logistics to a bare KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #28
Yes, big brother is big on this one marym625 Oct 2014 #31
Here's testiment to the bravery marym625 Oct 2014 #35
starts with an m notadmblnd Oct 2014 #61
You read it too I assume? marym625 Oct 2014 #63
what caused this supposed "pedestrian check" - They were black, and in Missouri... nough said uponit7771 Oct 2014 #13
Yep marym625 Oct 2014 #14
That's my understanding even in stop and frisk new york, the police HAVE to suspect SOMETHING... uponit7771 Oct 2014 #16
I just can't understand marym625 Oct 2014 #19
I think some of these cops are like the German gas machine man, they all "get used to it"... I don't uponit7771 Oct 2014 #20
Probably marym625 Oct 2014 #22
That's a fantastic video/rap song. FarPoint Oct 2014 #56
Not new marym625 Oct 2014 #59
Thing is, nearly *anything* can be determined suspicious by cops Cal Carpenter Oct 2014 #30
Thank you marym625 Oct 2014 #32
You're welcome! Any excuse to plug that book. Cal Carpenter Oct 2014 #44
quite an endorsement! marym625 Oct 2014 #45
I don't know the area sarisataka Oct 2014 #25
Thank you for that information marym625 Oct 2014 #29
Most of the time such a change sarisataka Oct 2014 #36
Exactly marym625 Oct 2014 #37
Ooo rah sarisataka Oct 2014 #39
Yeah after they magically switched the type of gun, I wondered some of those questions. Rex Oct 2014 #33
My thoughts exactly. eom marym625 Oct 2014 #34
Well, he was videoed buying a sandwich. panader0 Oct 2014 #38
Seriously, you just said it all right there! Rex Oct 2014 #40
Chances are he ate it , it's was 10 minutes after when first contact was made scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #47
25 minutes if the time stamp on the video Crabby Appleton Oct 2014 #53
Some police officers are corrupt but scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #46
I agree it is a possibility marym625 Oct 2014 #48
When I was posting in the thread that early morning or late at night ( 2am or 3 am) scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #49
True marym625 Oct 2014 #50
doubling back isn't really odd when being chased scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #52
But in 10 minutes? marym625 Oct 2014 #55
There's no reason to admit you're wrong scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #58
sure do. and Missouri is sure leading the pack. marym625 Oct 2014 #60
damn. marym625 Oct 2014 #51
If they did it within an hour or two even three right after the shooting I will change my opinion scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #54
I will let you know as soon as I know marym625 Oct 2014 #57
I am curious as to your thoughts now. marym625 Oct 2014 #66
Well scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #67
On the GSR test marym625 Oct 2014 #68
It's policy that they cuff scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #69
Yes, but he said more than that marym625 Oct 2014 #71
You think it was someone else who fired at the officer , that's a very interesting theory scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #73
Sorry on the delay marym625 Oct 2014 #74
No it really can't scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #75
I am going to have to ask a gun person marym625 Oct 2014 #76
Trayvon they tested his clothing to see the distance scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #78
Yes, I understand that part marym625 Oct 2014 #84
OK, now you are just testing me... sarisataka Oct 2014 #83
BUT.... marym625 Oct 2014 #85
Since Mr Myers had pending weapon charges sarisataka Oct 2014 #87
EXACTLY! marym625 Oct 2014 #89
To be honest sarisataka Oct 2014 #90
and add "cop pulled off the hoodie" marym625 Oct 2014 #91
I just saw this marym625 Oct 2014 #115
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2014 #92
Please see my post #107. Feral Child Oct 2014 #109
Did you see this? marym625 Oct 2014 #65
Sorry Feral Child Oct 2014 #105
Hide out/backup gun Feral Child Oct 2014 #107
I have heard that many times marym625 Oct 2014 #111
And how did he manage to get the GSR on Myers' hands? Travelman Oct 2014 #112
My mother Feral Child Oct 2014 #114
I'll try to be as thorough as I can Travelman Oct 2014 #62
Very well thought out marym625 Oct 2014 #64
The car was unmarked, the "why did he suspect them question" is still open... like Ferguson... uponit7771 Oct 2014 #95
Where is the documentation of that? Travelman Oct 2014 #96
The officer was off duty, I'll verify the car being unmarked... to my point... "strange" .. uponit7771 Oct 2014 #97
There is absolutely nothing improper with working a second job in uniform Travelman Oct 2014 #99
Where are the two that were with him? damnedifIknow Oct 2014 #70
They stated immediately that he just had a sandwhich. n/t marym625 Oct 2014 #72
No GSR test and the two with him claiming he had a sandwich = coverup imho uponit7771 Oct 2014 #93
Forensic evidence shows teen shot at St. Louis officer, police say Crabby Appleton Oct 2014 #94
Guess that's it scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #104
there's only one solution... TheVisitor Oct 2014 #102
When did they move St.Lous to Illinois? KinMd Oct 2014 #103
hahaha TheVisitor Oct 2014 #113
Illinois? marym625 Oct 2014 #108
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