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Jackpine Radical

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3. The Dems can't win without moving right for the Center-Right vote.

Fri Oct 10, 2014, 02:22 PM

Oct 2014

(Or would that be moving left by now?) Mrkuh's a center-right nation, you know. The Professional Leftists got nowhere else to go. Maybe if the Dems say the right things Rush won't be so hard on them.

If the Dems lose it'll be because of all those Progressives that didn't get their ponies, unicorns & rainbows. It'll be their fault if they're not loyal enough to vote for more war and heightened surveillance of the dangerous masses and tax cuts for the Deserving Rich.

The Dems can't win if Wall Street gives all their money to the Republicans. Pro-business is the only way to go. It's maybe OK to talk raising Minimum Wage, but you better make damn sure the Waltons don't take you seriously.

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The real reason there are so many threads about alleged "Progressive vote suppression" [View all] Savannahmann Oct 2014 OP

It also helps justify continued dismissal of progressive issues and values by "Party Loyalists" Scootaloo Oct 2014 #1

The Dems can't win without moving right for the Center-Right vote. Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #3

I wish I could tell if you're being sardonic. Goddamned Poe's Law. Scootaloo Oct 2014 #6

Aw, c'mon, Scoot. Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #11

There are high profile examples of 'progressives' discouraging voting or advocating third parties wyldwolf Oct 2014 #2

You mean like in the race for Senator from Kansas? Savannahmann Oct 2014 #7

No. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #10

Oh yeah - that Ted Rall piece at Alternet telling 'progressives' to break up with Democrats wyldwolf Oct 2014 #16

Even on boards like DU Andy823 Oct 2014 #18

Once more, how did that work out? LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #20

Thanks for posting these . . . markpkessinger Oct 2014 #29

My pleasure LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #53

You do realize that Ivans died years ago, correct? blackspade Oct 2014 #43

So? wyldwolf Oct 2014 #47

So what was the point of your post then? blackspade Oct 2014 #52

to show 'progressives' have threatened to sit out elections or support third party candidates wyldwolf Oct 2014 #54

Well if that was your intent, then you failed. blackspade Oct 2014 #66

I can't be blamed for your lack of reading comprehension skills wyldwolf Oct 2014 #67

My skills are just fine, thanks. blackspade Oct 2014 #72

Are you a progressive? If so, why didn't you succumb? Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2014 #13

Molly Ivans has not floated anything since 2007 when she died. Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #59

I don't recall, in any of these threads, any time period constraints. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #60

I trash that bullshit on sight. n/t winter is coming Oct 2014 #4

It's there Andy823 Oct 2014 #5

Fairies are there too, if you really want to see them Scootaloo Oct 2014 #8

Thanks Andy823 Oct 2014 #15

I've been posting that the Senate was in jeopardy since April. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #9

+1 n/t markpkessinger Oct 2014 #30

would be great if there were some actual links nashville_brook Oct 2014 #22

This, just this. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #39

Ay yay yay alcibiades_mystery Oct 2014 #12

Supreme Court overturning the Voting Rights Act this year is, of course, purely coincidental. ieoeja Oct 2014 #14

K & R to say, 'if this is as good as it gets, you suck!' mrdmk Oct 2014 #17

What happens on DU doesn't mean shit to anybody sufrommich Oct 2014 #19

So much truth in this post... SidDithers Oct 2014 #26

Issues are the problem... TreasonousBastard Oct 2014 #21

With money owning the media Stargazer99 Oct 2014 #23

Exceptional OP. K&R nt TBF Oct 2014 #24

they also define "most liberal" as "likes Obama the most" MisterP Oct 2014 #25

repubLIEcons are masters of propaganda, penndragon69 Oct 2014 #27

What the Fucking HELL with this thread and OP??? Chakaconcarne Oct 2014 #28

He's not saying we HAVE lost, Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #36

The truth is that corporatists seek closely divided government, not majorities. woo me with science Oct 2014 #31

+1000. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find out the D's collude with the R's to suppress the 99%. blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #33

+1 leftstreet Oct 2014 #46

^^THIS^^ Caretha Oct 2014 #71

We are so screwn pscot Oct 2014 #32

Great post. Captures the entire situation. truedelphi Oct 2014 #34

I mostly agree with this, but I see nothing wrong with the 'War on Women' as one Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #35

I guess you haven't seen the latest polls. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #37

Yes I've seen the polls. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #41

I'll take the local paper over the soppy conservative NY Times, thanks. nt AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #48

And the Soppy conservative Daily Kos? Savannahmann Oct 2014 #50

You do realize that Courier-Journal link is almost a month old, right? AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #51

Yes I do. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #57

Agreed on Grimes chances. blackspade Oct 2014 #73

What the hell is your problem with women's equality? LeftyMom Oct 2014 #38

I have no problem with women's equality Savannahmann Oct 2014 #44

Women's turnout, and especially young women and women of color, is vital to Dem victories. LeftyMom Oct 2014 #45

Then run on solutions to the economy. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #49

My favorite is the "Dem bashing is hurting us" meme. winter is coming Oct 2014 #40

So write them a letter Andy823 Oct 2014 #64

Because it's a *discussion* board, not a propaganda outlet. winter is coming Oct 2014 #65

Are you suggesting that Democratic Party leadership is posting threads on DU? brooklynite Oct 2014 #42

No he did not, and good luck with that line... n/t mrdmk Oct 2014 #61

Please, then, explain what WAS being said... brooklynite Oct 2014 #62

Excellent post! n/t Kermitt Gribble Oct 2014 #55

We saw the same thing in 2010. pa28 Oct 2014 #56

I didn't. I canvased. joshcryer Oct 2014 #58

What have they proposed? Savannahmann Oct 2014 #63

What could they possibly propose that would pass this congress? joshcryer Oct 2014 #68

Um, I covered the "make it america". Savannahmann Oct 2014 #69

That is patently false, though. joshcryer Oct 2014 #70