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freshwest

(53,661 posts)
124. 'A successful libertarian Revolution would be the brass ring of oligarchic ambition'
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 03:44 PM
Oct 2014

Not all revolutions are of the Left, but the Left seems to be falling for that tactic right now. Those who think not voting will make people turn the country socialist or whatever have not done the ground work nor studied the world.

The countries with the most apathetic voters are those ruled ruthlessly by Oligarchs in patrician societies with churches and militias enforcing it.

Some take for granted that America is immune to that state of affairs. The years since 2010 prove that if you don't use your right to vote, you will lose it and most likely forever.

Because it can happen here and non-voters and those who divide will make it happen. One of our European posters explained to me how the Nazis were elected. It was the lack of cohesion of the groups of the left to form a majority.

This is why there is such a push to divide us, and no effort or meme is spared by the tools of Oligarchs, who knowingly or not, work to attain their goal. They have something for every personality to buy into and exploit their triggers ruthlessly.

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Categorically impossible for a progressive to discourage geek tragedy Oct 2014 #1
I edited my post title to add quotes around the word. MineralMan Oct 2014 #2
Anyone engaged in actively Getting Out The Vote JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #3
Thank you. You are absolutely right! MineralMan Oct 2014 #12
Well said! riqster Oct 2014 #4
We need to be encouraging people/good democrats to get out the vote Gothmog Oct 2014 #5
Talking points memo has become a cesspool of negativity kimbutgar Oct 2014 #6
Yep. I always vote against Repubs. riqster Oct 2014 #7
I don't "see it all over the internet" tkmorris Oct 2014 #8
Really? I don't go to that many political websites. MineralMan Oct 2014 #21
So, your examples supporting your OP theaocp Oct 2014 #25
I don't usually link to other people's opinions. MineralMan Oct 2014 #26
Therefore, your "style" is not to provide facts brentspeak Oct 2014 #56
Somebody Kick Your Puppy? ProfessorGAC Oct 2014 #71
Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #107
Is there a "babble" translator on the web? brentspeak Oct 2014 #181
are you baiting him, so he gets a hide? same thing happens to me every time I post in threads that bettyellen Oct 2014 #115
SOP for that one. emulatorloo Oct 2014 #162
flypaper for "social justice warriors" and those that realize that women's rights are not a "niche bettyellen Oct 2014 #178
Just so there is no misunderstanding, am 100% behind mineral man's post and GOTV efforts. emulatorloo Oct 2014 #179
Yes, because you are especially known around here for your outrage brentspeak Oct 2014 #182
That's right, not big on anti-dem half-truth hatchet-jobs by fake progressives. emulatorloo Oct 2014 #184
AKA: Your imagination. WinkyDink Oct 2014 #70
Nope. My opinion. I have one. MineralMan Oct 2014 #111
I see tkmorris Oct 2014 #33
I think MM was being polite ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #44
And posting specific examples would get a post hidden, everyone knows that. But since you're here: freshwest Oct 2014 #102
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #105
Really? You're one of those who make DU bearable some days. Along with 'my friends' who wouldn't freshwest Oct 2014 #117
Good post...nt SidDithers Oct 2014 #108
^^^ THIS^^^ bettyellen Oct 2014 #116
Oustanding post. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #174
Agree with you here. DU is not representative of Dems I kinow IRL. freshwest Oct 2014 #119
Even my friends who are rabid about the NSA acknowledge other issues that Dems are much stronger on bettyellen Oct 2014 #125
I think you are a con gaslighting the 47%/ 99% again Stargazer99 Oct 2014 #53
You think I'm a "CON"? Seriously? tkmorris Oct 2014 #84
You should try reading a website named "Democratic Underground" jeff47 Oct 2014 #60
"Call out alert bait"?!? Tone it down tkmorris Oct 2014 #75
And then you asked for examples. jeff47 Oct 2014 #77
Again, he spoke of people elsewhere on the internet tkmorris Oct 2014 #82
No, he spoke of "on the Internet". Elsewhere was your addition. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2014 #91
In fact he said 'all over the internet'. The words are at the top of this page. Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #149
requesting evidence of one's assertions is now considered to be a call out? frylock Oct 2014 #88
No, the call out is responding with examples. jeff47 Oct 2014 #90
All's they have to do is post a link, that is not a call out. bahrbearian Oct 2014 #138
He can't post examples, as we very well know here. It'd get hidden as a call out. freshwest Oct 2014 #118
There are progressive people, then there are 'progressives.' wyldwolf Oct 2014 #9
Pseudo-progressives or fake-progressives. emulatorloo Oct 2014 #163
I agree Andy823 Oct 2014 #10
Could you give some evidence to support your claim? cali Oct 2014 #11
The evidence is all around us. MineralMan Oct 2014 #14
so you can't give any evidence. And around here there is very little cali Oct 2014 #22
My post is my post. If you want a different post, MineralMan Oct 2014 #23
I went through the first two pages of FDL and didn't find any articles discouraging voting Chathamization Oct 2014 #29
you're ruining a perfectly good two-minute hate.. frylock Oct 2014 #41
Likewise, I go to Alternet daily. Fuddnik Oct 2014 #83
another conservative troll? Stargazer99 Oct 2014 #55
Yeah, posts like this don't litter DU jeff47 Oct 2014 #63
That's twice you've linked to the same post tkmorris Oct 2014 #76
Actually 3 times. Go look down the thread a bit further jeff47 Oct 2014 #78
If you want to claim there IS a database, then yeah tkmorris Oct 2014 #85
There is. You get it by using the box I already told you about. jeff47 Oct 2014 #89
They are as progressive as... TreasonousBastard Oct 2014 #13
Thank you. I appreciate your GOTV efforts more than I can say. MineralMan Oct 2014 #16
Good luck out there! JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #95
Great news... as good as what I heard from someone in N.C. GOTV! freshwest Oct 2014 #121
fresh JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #123
Thanks for that post and for doing what you're doing today. Wishing you health and strength. freshwest Oct 2014 #120
"Limbaughciles" Jamaal510 Oct 2014 #161
Damn good question. I'm so SICK of it. Republicans ARE going to vote. Triana Oct 2014 #15
FU to the purveyors of doom, gloom, and discontent and who spread fear, uncertainty and doubt! BlueCaliDem Oct 2014 #17
Thanks so much! MineralMan Oct 2014 #18
Count me as.. sendero Oct 2014 #19
Because republicans have ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #45
Rather recent.. sendero Oct 2014 #46
Excellent points Andy823 Oct 2014 #47
Not a lack of "knowledge" ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #51
+100 truebluegreen Oct 2014 #64
Hmmmmm Andy823 Oct 2014 #142
I've heard all that, ad nauseum. But thanks. truebluegreen Oct 2014 #156
K&R and FU FDL. nt tridim Oct 2014 #20
because republicans pretend to be Ds to have less Ds vote. All Rs care about is to get voted in. Sunlei Oct 2014 #24
Because they are NOT progressives, liberals, Democrats or even moderates Peacetrain Oct 2014 #27
In many cases, I believe you're correct. MineralMan Oct 2014 #28
Agreed. nt Bobbie Jo Oct 2014 #31
+1 n/t FSogol Oct 2014 #87
I think some of them are progressives.... sweetloukillbot Oct 2014 #110
Some folks are waiting for a candidate as pure as the driven snow shenmue Oct 2014 #30
I dunno but their blog or whatever does not reflect reality imo. Rex Oct 2014 #32
Me and my wife.. sendero Oct 2014 #61
This S*** drives me crazy! Zoonart Oct 2014 #34
It could be troll driven get the red out Oct 2014 #35
Childish Zoonart Oct 2014 #37
I agree Andy823 Oct 2014 #49
Why? Ivywoods55 Oct 2014 #36
Indeed Zoonart Oct 2014 #38
I suspect many of the persons posting that crap malaise Oct 2014 #39
Well, I'm sure some of them are. Others may well be MineralMan Oct 2014 #40
Follow the crowd syndrome Andy823 Oct 2014 #50
Yeah I agree 100%. Rex Oct 2014 #143
While ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #42
'A successful libertarian Revolution would be the brass ring of oligarchic ambition' freshwest Oct 2014 #124
some people are saying.... frylock Oct 2014 #43
Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #48
Lol. Gotta hang on to that one. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2014 #52
You know, on the internets ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #54
I always vote. I vote issues and policies, not party or politician. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2014 #57
It's not pro-Republicanism or nihilism. It's purism. Jim Lane Oct 2014 #58
Why are right wingers posting on progressive websites? brentspeak Oct 2014 #59
right... marions ghost Oct 2014 #67
I haven't seen that anywhere. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #62
There's this one called "Democratic Underground" jeff47 Oct 2014 #65
Even if I accept that there are Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #68
How 'bout this one: jeff47 Oct 2014 #73
Sorry, you didn't read it all. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #79
I gave an easy-for-me to find example. jeff47 Oct 2014 #93
But that's my point - when you actually go back to find the comments Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #94
When you get 6 people saying "they're identical economically, but different socially" jeff47 Oct 2014 #96
Not true, Erch ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #113
K&R plus BumRushDaShow Oct 2014 #66
I don't see what you claim to be seeing. WinkyDink Oct 2014 #69
everywhere I go, heaven05 Oct 2014 #72
Anyone claiming that there is no difference between the parties is NOT a Progressive. liberal N proud Oct 2014 #74
Anger the right, discourage the left ... shift turnout ... win!!!! JoePhilly Oct 2014 #80
Proposing a special tax on wealth to pay for the new war would GTV grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #81
Really think so ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #109
Of course, remember occupy, let's get their vote! grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #127
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #133
Why Are 'Progressive' Websites Discouraging Voting? The CCC Oct 2014 #86
We need to open up about those worries... HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #92
TRULY "Progressive" sites wouldn't discourage exercising the right to vote. CakeGrrl Oct 2014 #97
Real progressives are the most aware of the rot infecting our governments... Orsino Oct 2014 #98
The Koch Brothers can afford to pay trolls Dawson Leery Oct 2014 #99
"The Koch Brothers can afford to pay trolls". Ding! Ding! Ding! Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #175
So you attack and then enourage people to GOTV? Oilwellian Oct 2014 #100
Pretty typical MO for minealman BlindTiresias Oct 2014 #104
There was Ed Schultz famous promise not to vote in the 2010 midterms.. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #101
What appears to be the product of your imagination stupidicus Oct 2014 #103
Well, Sherman A1 Oct 2014 #106
Now we have at leas two posts Andy823 Oct 2014 #112
These are paid Republican hacks Warpy Oct 2014 #114
IMO, once they realized they got away with stealing the elections in 2000 and 2004 Rex Oct 2014 #122
Any site that salivates over GG would openly advocate for disengagement. It's a continuing campaign Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #126
Sometimes they give themselves away with a partial alignment MineralMan Oct 2014 #128
Anyone who hasn't figured out that dynamic is just "willfully" ignorant. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #131
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #134
+1. "And if taken in sufficient quantities ... equally as blinding". Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #139
Everclear brings back memories ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #140
Me too. It may be the only time in my life, when I over indulged. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #141
"Liberaltarians" is what the word is for them. Jamaal510 Oct 2014 #164
+1. Have you seen this? Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #168
WHat??! BUt I don't see NO examples of the "both sides are the same" stuFf here that MM is talkinG Number23 Oct 2014 #169
You're getting sleepy, very very sleepy. You didn't really see what you thought you saw. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #173
I was busy and didn't catch that, Jamaal510 Oct 2014 #170
Whaddya want to bet they're "priveleged"? You know what I mean, right? They can afford to.... Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #172
At risk of losing our voting rights JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #177
so you're already preparing to lose *and* to blame the most active members of the party MisterP Oct 2014 #129
Nope. In my districts and state there's not a chance we'll lose. MineralMan Oct 2014 #130
Hey "mineral man" BlindTiresias Oct 2014 #135
Why the quotes? My screen name is MineralMan. MineralMan Oct 2014 #146
imagine posting an op with this subject line, and not a single link Doctor_J Oct 2014 #132
DU rec... SidDithers Oct 2014 #136
So it seems. Must be close to the mark. MineralMan Oct 2014 #147
Why are the imaginary farts coming out of my head discouraging voting? BlindTiresias Oct 2014 #137
Good one. bahrbearian Oct 2014 #144
jinx! buy me a Coke! MisterP Oct 2014 #152
Lol BlindTiresias Oct 2014 #153
and it's not like one can't make an argument about voting vs mass abstentionism MisterP Oct 2014 #155
lol nt m-lekktor Oct 2014 #171
I suspect many of these "Progressive" sites might be FAKE progressive sites by the 1% or the right.. cascadiance Oct 2014 #145
There seems to be a rash of these "trash the Left posts". To what purpose? Are they intended rhett o rick Oct 2014 #148
Well Andy823 Oct 2014 #151
He is cleverly putting forth the same anti-Left meme that seems to be popping up here in DU. rhett o rick Oct 2014 #165
pre emptive blame for the dc dems upcoming debacle Doctor_J Oct 2014 #157
Exactly. nm rhett o rick Oct 2014 #166
I have not seen these things you claim to have seen. And around here the election seems to Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #150
I aint seeing it all over the internet ... GeorgeGist Oct 2014 #154
We just voted Tuesday for municipal/borough elections. raven mad Oct 2014 #158
Straw man argument. ;-) kickysnana Oct 2014 #159
Why are conservative "Democrats" discouraging voting? JEB Oct 2014 #160
Sock puppets. snot Oct 2014 #167
A link to a link JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #176
I haven't seen that ANYWHERE on the Net. Blue_In_AK Oct 2014 #180
Well since MM won't actually give the URLs to any of these sites Rex Oct 2014 #183
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