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Comrade Grumpy

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54. What possible solutions have emerged on this thread?

Fri Oct 10, 2014, 04:38 PM

Oct 2014

A national commission on law enforcement standards and practices.

Increased, and, I might add, effective, civilian oversight of law enforcement.

Reversing the militarization of the police.

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I would add exerting pressure on state and local elected officials. Demand hearings, demand legislation.

Maryland has taken the first step to reining in SWAT teams, with a law requiring reporting of SWAT deployments. I think there is a similar bill in Michigan. Those kinds of laws could be helpful, too.

And somehow making law enforcement--not the community--pay for all those wrongful death, deprivation of liberty, and police brutality settlements. Maybe if they can't afford new cop cars because they had to pay the family of someone they killed they might start to get th message.

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What do we do about these motherfucking cops in this country? [View all] Comrade Grumpy Oct 2014 OP

Remove some of the "immunity" they work under. SQUEE Oct 2014 #1

Start at square one azureblue Oct 2014 #50

Unfortunately, many of those 'bad cops' are now in management! mrdmk Oct 2014 #73

Defund Police Pensions until the shit stops FreakinDJ Oct 2014 #129

All due respect, but what would a 'national commission' accomplish? I think one KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #2

At best, a national commission would: Comrade Grumpy Oct 2014 #3

Making them feel the financial christx30 Oct 2014 #53

They'd still launder the costs off to the taxpayers. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #104

So the next step is christx30 Oct 2014 #108

Union busting is decidedly anti-progressive Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #112

Cops arent workers, they re the brutish attack dogs of the 1%. ncjustice80 Oct 2014 #114

Your hatred of cops is blinding you. GGJohn Oct 2014 #117

It's almost as if the Kerner Commission never happened, isn't it? I feel the vast majority KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #70

That used to be a thing. Remember "Earn your bread where you lay your head" logosoco Oct 2014 #42

don't cops need criminal justice degrees these days? redruddyred Oct 2014 #48

I don't know. I hate this - it tears me up. If it keeps up they may end up being the targets jwirr Oct 2014 #4

This list is a start - from Drugwarrant.com iscooterliberally Oct 2014 #65

I read through it and this is exactly what needs to be seen by all Americans. jwirr Oct 2014 #67

Especially the ones who think they are safe. iscooterliberally Oct 2014 #68

Need complete separation from prosecutors office Uben Oct 2014 #5

hadn't thought about that NJCher Oct 2014 #8

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You must be white. nt NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #7

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surely you jest NJCher Oct 2014 #10

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You probably won't be until it happens to you damnedifIknow Oct 2014 #15

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Yeah damnedifIknow Oct 2014 #19

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Asshole thug? damnedifIknow Oct 2014 #21

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Icecube has left the building. lpbk2713 Oct 2014 #25

May I take this opportunity to express my gratitude to MIRT!!! etherealtruth Oct 2014 #27

Doesn't deserve pizza ... GeorgeGist Oct 2014 #30

"Thug" implies some degree of toughness. I don't think this troll has an ounce of courage. arcane1 Oct 2014 #32

Hopefully to find his brain damnedifIknow Oct 2014 #36

Or heart. Or nerve. christx30 Oct 2014 #55

Icecube has gone off to find a job arcane1 Oct 2014 #29

Anything could happen scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #22

I think the point is that all too often Skittles Oct 2014 #26

Don't you SEE, Skittles?? It's your coworker's fault that some black people commit crimes. arcane1 Oct 2014 #31

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Just. Give. Up. uppityperson Oct 2014 #43

Please tell your coworker about the locking mechanism on newer cars. PADemD Oct 2014 #63

I cross a six lane road weekly and have never heard that Skittles Oct 2014 #72

So it's OK for cops to ignore civil rights of peaceful protestors csziggy Oct 2014 #35

Killing Black Teens Is Admirable? otohara Oct 2014 #13

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He's probably a psycho ... GeorgeGist Oct 2014 #33

Its an opinion etherealtruth Oct 2014 #18

Stop militarizing them. Which means taking on corporate politicians. woo me with science Oct 2014 #11

Thanks for your efforts to research this and bring some facts to bear. Scuba Oct 2014 #34

I don't think this is too much of a jump redruddyred Oct 2014 #49

For starters, Aristus Oct 2014 #17

More "civilian"/ community oversight etherealtruth Oct 2014 #24

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Are you using ferguson as an example etherealtruth Oct 2014 #45

Real psychological screening get the red out Oct 2014 #28

My state requires a psych on every hire yesiwasacop Oct 2014 #78

Brutal, violent cops and the police departments and Blue Wall of Silence... DrewFlorida Oct 2014 #37

"What else can be done?" Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #40

Incest is against the law. In most states it's a felony. MineralMan Oct 2014 #41

Yes, but the problem is they aren't. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2014 #51

How many liberals / progressives do YOU personally know... MicaelS Oct 2014 #44

This is an exceedingly gnarly problem 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #46

Its very depressing. stevenleser Oct 2014 #47

If you think its only a cop problem you're wrong. the_sly_pig Oct 2014 #52

I have taken several thousand calls in my career and ur right yesiwasacop Oct 2014 #80

What possible solutions have emerged on this thread? Comrade Grumpy Oct 2014 #54

And fuck it. It's Friday afternoon in Northern California. I'm going to look at ocean. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2014 #56

*1000 blackspade Oct 2014 #61

Cameras on all cops. ohnoyoudidnt Oct 2014 #57

An obvious and great idea etherealtruth Oct 2014 #89

Cameras on every cop is a start. Turn it off on duty and you're fired. Period. TeamPooka Oct 2014 #58

Nothing will come from the DEM Establishment. They are too scared of everything, or are PAID to be blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #60

Dashboard cameras on all our vehicles for starters malaise Oct 2014 #62

Politicians wanted to get tough on crime, but tough isn't really smart. iscooterliberally Oct 2014 #64

Beer summit!!! grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #66

COPS ARE OUTTA OF CONTROL!! star14 Oct 2014 #69

Make it illegal for cops to lie to citizens. joshcryer Oct 2014 #71

okkkkk DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #76

Lies are manipulative. joshcryer Oct 2014 #83

True, but that does not solve the problem DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #127

Most of those cases were actually thrown out. joshcryer Oct 2014 #128

Get these motherfucking cops out of this motherfucking country!!! Initech Oct 2014 #74

Several things: ncjustice80 Oct 2014 #75

I agree with 3 out of 6. GGJohn Oct 2014 #82

The prosecution would still have to prove tje officer killed the guy. ncjustice80 Oct 2014 #86

You have turned our justice system on its head. former9thward Oct 2014 #118

Instant result Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #84

I wouldnt put on a badge because im not an authoritarian asshole. ncjustice80 Oct 2014 #85

You don't have a clue Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #88

Of course, would suck for the cops to be accountable and not be able to just bully/murder black ppl ncjustice80 Oct 2014 #90

Ohh, another irrational statement Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #91

Police in Britain do just fine without those things. ncjustice80 Oct 2014 #92

Police in Britain don't have to deal with a citizenry that have a right to own firearms, GGJohn Oct 2014 #94

No it wouldnt. Cops would just havw to, y'know, treat ppl with RESPECT. nt ncjustice80 Oct 2014 #95

You really have no idea do you? GGJohn Oct 2014 #97

"Anti-cop bigots" I've seen it all now. JoeyT Oct 2014 #119

Replace "cop" with "Muslim" in your statement Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #123

Replace potato salad in yours and see how it makes a delicious picnic. JoeyT Oct 2014 #124

Have them serve in Massachusetts for a while MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #77

Read your local news- it does happen in Mass. yesiwasacop Oct 2014 #81

Not totally unjustified pipi_k Oct 2014 #106

There are a couple of unarmed people killed by police in Mass- read the article yesiwasacop Oct 2014 #120

There already is a national commission yesiwasacop Oct 2014 #79

If any of you "experts" wants the plan of somebody who has done the job Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #87

Now it all makes sense why you always stick up for the 5-0. ncjustice80 Oct 2014 #93

Cops need less legal protection? GGJohn Oct 2014 #96

It's a decidedly un-progressive position Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #99

+100. GGJohn Oct 2014 #101

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Nice getting it totally wrong. GGJohn Oct 2014 #116

Cops get plenty of due process, but teachers dont get a "Blue Wall of Silence" ncjustice80 Oct 2014 #107

Funny post for somebody with the name NNjustice Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #111

So somehow police unions are different than all the rest? Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #98

I love his suggestion of disarming the patrol cops GGJohn Oct 2014 #100

I have never pipi_k Oct 2014 #105

I fully agree on cameras Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #110

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Well said Egnever Oct 2014 #125

Echoing an above poster - sibelian Oct 2014 #113

in every county jobendorfer Oct 2014 #115

Police Attitudes Beowulf42 Oct 2014 #121

with or without the sarcasm thingy? jeepers Oct 2014 #122