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Savannahmann

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63. What have they proposed?
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 09:52 PM
Oct 2014

What plan has been proposed to improve the economy? From Democrats own website.

The last update was on May 9th. MAY 9TH of this year.



That's the entire post for the entire month of May.

April, we celebrated equal pay day, and had another great slide for minimum wage.

That's it.

Well, let's look at the House Democrats, because perhaps they've done more than phone it in.

Er. Yeah.

House Democrats’ plan to Make It In America includes:

Adopting & pursuing a national manufacturing strategy: Right now, American manufacturers are facing international competitors that benefit from other nations’ carefully crafted manufacturing strategies. Such comprehensive strategies include tax incentives, investments in research, skills development initiatives, and support for infrastructure projects in order to help their manufacturers get ahead.


So the House Democrats plan is to crank up the lower taxes on major manufacturing, read that to mean big business, so they might hire more people. I've heard that plan before, can anyone tell me what Republican offered that plan because his name (Romney) escapes me.

We got our asses kicked on Minimum wage because the CBO came back and put a spotlight on the Republican argument of the "job killing minimum wage" when the CBO said yes, 500,000 jobs would be lost. We just folded right then. That's the only economic proposal we've made all year. ALL BLOODY YEAR.

So help me out. What economic plans have Democrats put out that I haven't heard about. Because I'd love to read them. Providing that they are written somewhere other than the Republican Caucus meeting.

You need to remember this one salient fact. I'm not getting this from Rethug sites. This is literally the Democratic plans, or lack there of.

If you want to highlight Republican obstruction, you don't schedule a few token votes. If you want people to elect you, here's the key, you have to promise to keep working, even if you stand zero chance of getting it through the House. Because if you're not working, then all you can promise is more gridlock with nothing getting done. But if you're submitting proposals, drafting laws, and discussing those proposals when you go on the Sunday Talking Head shows, you're going to make them respond when they are asked what their plan is. Then they can either say we don't have one, or they can try and pull some crap out of their asses, while you have a binder full of proposals that you are happy to discuss.

But by doing nothing except complaining about the Republicans, you accomplish nothing. Not only do you get nothing done, which would have happened anyway, but you also lose the moral victory of making the Republicans oppose it. But it has to be a serious plan, and it has to be able to work. Which obviously goes without saying that tax cuts for big business obviously won't work, unless your economic stimulus plan is to help the bosses buy more expensive cars and houses.

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It also helps justify continued dismissal of progressive issues and values by "Party Loyalists" Scootaloo Oct 2014 #1
The Dems can't win without moving right for the Center-Right vote. Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #3
I wish I could tell if you're being sardonic. Goddamned Poe's Law. Scootaloo Oct 2014 #6
Aw, c'mon, Scoot. Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #11
There are high profile examples of 'progressives' discouraging voting or advocating third parties wyldwolf Oct 2014 #2
You mean like in the race for Senator from Kansas? Savannahmann Oct 2014 #7
No. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #10
Oh yeah - that Ted Rall piece at Alternet telling 'progressives' to break up with Democrats wyldwolf Oct 2014 #16
Even on boards like DU Andy823 Oct 2014 #18
Once more, how did that work out? LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #20
Thanks for posting these . . . markpkessinger Oct 2014 #29
My pleasure LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #53
You do realize that Ivans died years ago, correct? blackspade Oct 2014 #43
So? wyldwolf Oct 2014 #47
So what was the point of your post then? blackspade Oct 2014 #52
to show 'progressives' have threatened to sit out elections or support third party candidates wyldwolf Oct 2014 #54
Well if that was your intent, then you failed. blackspade Oct 2014 #66
I can't be blamed for your lack of reading comprehension skills wyldwolf Oct 2014 #67
My skills are just fine, thanks. blackspade Oct 2014 #72
Are you a progressive? If so, why didn't you succumb? Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2014 #13
Molly Ivans has not floated anything since 2007 when she died. Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #59
I don't recall, in any of these threads, any time period constraints. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #60
I trash that bullshit on sight. n/t winter is coming Oct 2014 #4
It's there Andy823 Oct 2014 #5
Fairies are there too, if you really want to see them Scootaloo Oct 2014 #8
Thanks Andy823 Oct 2014 #15
I've been posting that the Senate was in jeopardy since April. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #9
+1 n/t markpkessinger Oct 2014 #30
would be great if there were some actual links nashville_brook Oct 2014 #22
This, just this. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #39
Ay yay yay alcibiades_mystery Oct 2014 #12
Supreme Court overturning the Voting Rights Act this year is, of course, purely coincidental. ieoeja Oct 2014 #14
K & R to say, 'if this is as good as it gets, you suck!' mrdmk Oct 2014 #17
What happens on DU doesn't mean shit to anybody sufrommich Oct 2014 #19
So much truth in this post... SidDithers Oct 2014 #26
Issues are the problem... TreasonousBastard Oct 2014 #21
With money owning the media Stargazer99 Oct 2014 #23
Exceptional OP. K&R nt TBF Oct 2014 #24
they also define "most liberal" as "likes Obama the most" MisterP Oct 2014 #25
repubLIEcons are masters of propaganda, penndragon69 Oct 2014 #27
What the Fucking HELL with this thread and OP??? Chakaconcarne Oct 2014 #28
He's not saying we HAVE lost, Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #36
The truth is that corporatists seek closely divided government, not majorities. woo me with science Oct 2014 #31
+1000. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find out the D's collude with the R's to suppress the 99%. blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #33
+1 leftstreet Oct 2014 #46
^^THIS^^ Caretha Oct 2014 #71
We are so screwn pscot Oct 2014 #32
Great post. Captures the entire situation. truedelphi Oct 2014 #34
I mostly agree with this, but I see nothing wrong with the 'War on Women' as one Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #35
I guess you haven't seen the latest polls. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #37
Yes I've seen the polls. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #41
I'll take the local paper over the soppy conservative NY Times, thanks. nt AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #48
And the Soppy conservative Daily Kos? Savannahmann Oct 2014 #50
You do realize that Courier-Journal link is almost a month old, right? AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #51
Yes I do. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #57
Agreed on Grimes chances. blackspade Oct 2014 #73
What the hell is your problem with women's equality? LeftyMom Oct 2014 #38
I have no problem with women's equality Savannahmann Oct 2014 #44
Women's turnout, and especially young women and women of color, is vital to Dem victories. LeftyMom Oct 2014 #45
Then run on solutions to the economy. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #49
My favorite is the "Dem bashing is hurting us" meme. winter is coming Oct 2014 #40
So write them a letter Andy823 Oct 2014 #64
Because it's a *discussion* board, not a propaganda outlet. winter is coming Oct 2014 #65
Are you suggesting that Democratic Party leadership is posting threads on DU? brooklynite Oct 2014 #42
No he did not, and good luck with that line... n/t mrdmk Oct 2014 #61
Please, then, explain what WAS being said... brooklynite Oct 2014 #62
Excellent post! n/t Kermitt Gribble Oct 2014 #55
We saw the same thing in 2010. pa28 Oct 2014 #56
I didn't. I canvased. joshcryer Oct 2014 #58
What have they proposed? Savannahmann Oct 2014 #63
What could they possibly propose that would pass this congress? joshcryer Oct 2014 #68
Um, I covered the "make it america". Savannahmann Oct 2014 #69
That is patently false, though. joshcryer Oct 2014 #70
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