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In reply to the discussion: So if the Democrats lose the senate. [View all]annominous
(68 posts)There's no way we lose either house by a supermajority in this election, the numbers are not there for the gotp. The gotp at best expects 52 senate seats (they need 67 for a supermajority), and if 2 of those are indies and they caucus with the democrats (Preibus today said he wouldn't let them caucus with the gotp if they win), then the democrats will have control of the senate because Joe Biden, as VP, gets to vote for majority leader and ... that will be that. VP Cheney's tie-breaking vote gave senate leadership to the gotp back in 2001, it has happened before.
If democrats do lose the Senate, then POTUS Obama will have to get tough, and veto bad legislation in the first place. He has only vetoed two pieces of legislation, one of the least veto-using POTUS in our history. We need for him to get tough. He's too conciliatory, and that is what worries me: that he won't veto bad legislation in the first place.
And remember, if we lose the senate, we still will have Harry Reid in our corner as minority leader, and I expect he will do to the gotp what they've been doing to us since 2010. Meaning, worst case: 2 more years of gridlock. Same as if we don't lose the Senate.
In reality, one way or another it is likely 8 more years of gridlock. We will have to wait for the 2020 census, and democrats need to work on taking back state houses between now and then. If our side has the state houses, we can undo the gerrymandering done by the 2010 gotp state houses. And new districts will be in place by the 2022 midterm election.
What a mess. Just because democrats stayed home in 2010.