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joshcryer

(62,536 posts)
68. What could they possibly propose that would pass this congress?
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 06:25 AM
Oct 2014

Are you serious? All of that criticism for a party that must have the other side to pass anything of portent.

The Democrats have been trying to pass the American Jobs Act since 2012. It only goes forward significantly in committee, policy wonks trying to figure out what to do.

http://www.democraticwhip.gov/issues/make-it-america-113th-congress

But by doing nothing except complaining about the Republicans, you accomplish nothing.


The Democrats have been offering solutions, the Republicans have been blocking it at every turn. To absolve the Republicans is to carry water for right wing policies. Indeed, that's all they have, demographics are one way, progress is one way, to keep themselves relevant they must keep this idea of "government as a failure" in the mix and then come in with their wild eyed crazed Austrian economics that even Alan Greenspan admitted was wrong.

Now, I could do what you did, and post a wall of text, but I will refrain from posting the American Jobs Act in full. If you want to can read all about it.

But don't pretend for one damn instance it's all on the Democrats, it's purely due to Republican obstructionism: http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/09/07/812251/republicans-blocked-jobs-act-one-year/

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/10/opinion/krugman-obstruct-and-exploit.html

BTW, lower corporate taxes is a necessary solution, but it must come with closing the loopholes. This is not controversial at all, as the US has a higher rate than Germany, but we have far more loopholes, so even with the high rate, most large corporations don't pay anything or very little and can hoard their money overseas. Reduce it to Germany's rate, close the loopholes, that's not a gimmie to corporations. But buzzwords and talking points win over rational political discourse.

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It also helps justify continued dismissal of progressive issues and values by "Party Loyalists" Scootaloo Oct 2014 #1
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There are high profile examples of 'progressives' discouraging voting or advocating third parties wyldwolf Oct 2014 #2
You mean like in the race for Senator from Kansas? Savannahmann Oct 2014 #7
No. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #10
Oh yeah - that Ted Rall piece at Alternet telling 'progressives' to break up with Democrats wyldwolf Oct 2014 #16
Even on boards like DU Andy823 Oct 2014 #18
Once more, how did that work out? LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #20
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So? wyldwolf Oct 2014 #47
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to show 'progressives' have threatened to sit out elections or support third party candidates wyldwolf Oct 2014 #54
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I didn't. I canvased. joshcryer Oct 2014 #58
What have they proposed? Savannahmann Oct 2014 #63
What could they possibly propose that would pass this congress? joshcryer Oct 2014 #68
Um, I covered the "make it america". Savannahmann Oct 2014 #69
That is patently false, though. joshcryer Oct 2014 #70
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