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RobertEarl

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53. "The concentrations are safe"...???

Sat Oct 11, 2014, 09:09 PM

Oct 2014

Safe for who? Or what?

There have not been such concentrations in the ocean like we have now. So this idea that it is safe is a shot-in-the-dark, just plain wishful thinking.

The creatures that live in the water 24/7, are being bombarded 24/7 with this never before realized radiation. In short, there is not enough science on which to base a claim that it is 'safe'.

However, we have recently noted sea creature populations in the Pacific are in serious decline. The scientists claim to not know what is causing these declines and mass deaths.

Obviously, the ocean off the coast of Pacific Northwest is not safe these days. Is Fukushima to blame? Would they tell us if it were?

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What's happening at Fukushima? [View all] RobertEarl Oct 2014 OP

~ antiquie Oct 2014 #1

Even if that typhoon reaches Fukushima, Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #2

I admire optimism, but unfortunately,the storm was truedelphi Oct 2014 #120

The storm had essentially petered out by the time it reached Fukushima Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #121

Wind patterns hitting an ara can be entirely different truedelphi Oct 2014 #124

Soma Town is just north of the reactors Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #133

Fukushima is a global disaster, affecting everyone on the planet. Octafish Oct 2014 #3

It is sad RobertEarl Oct 2014 #8

Systemic Moral Failure due to Greed Octafish Oct 2014 #10

Greed is certainly a factor RobertEarl Oct 2014 #17

I think parts of the nuke industry were big Obama campaign contributors iirc lunasun Oct 2014 #89

...more here... L0oniX Oct 2014 #52

Thank you, L0oniX! Octafish Oct 2014 #55

K&R JEB Oct 2014 #130

So the situation is unchanged. It's still a clusterfuck. Scuba Oct 2014 #4

Nuclear workers kept in dark on Fukushima hazard pay Octafish Oct 2014 #15

"... worst nuclear disaster since Chernobyl." I'd call it worse than Chernobyl, but I'm no expert. Scuba Oct 2014 #19

In terms of land rendered uninhabitable, Chernobyl was worse Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #27

Pacific ocean RobertEarl Oct 2014 #40

That was the part that led to my conclusion. Scuba Oct 2014 #42

Yeah, talk about whitewashing it away RobertEarl Oct 2014 #47

The situation w both what is going on in the P ocean, and truedelphi Oct 2014 #119

Chernobyl was worse in almost all ways. FBaggins Oct 2014 #43

The "moxy fuel" that was used by Fukushima's GE, Tepco plant truedelphi Oct 2014 #49

... SidDithers Oct 2014 #50

Not sure where you got that notion... but it's incorrect. FBaggins Oct 2014 #60

Wrong again.... RobertEarl Oct 2014 #62

Seriously? FBaggins Oct 2014 #66

And unfortunately, "industry" would put this person on truedelphi Oct 2014 #111

From what i can tell he may be an industry rep RobertEarl Oct 2014 #113

You, on the other hand, make anti-nuke advocates look bad. zappaman Oct 2014 #114

I'd like to see FB, and the rest, post OP's RobertEarl Oct 2014 #115

Here are constant updates by Mainichi shinbum yuiyoshida Oct 2014 #5

Thank you for offering up that website. truedelphi Oct 2014 #54

giants won last night... yuiyoshida Oct 2014 #57

And last night- they lost it by truedelphi Oct 2014 #112

Not worried about it... yuiyoshida Oct 2014 #123

There's an election for Fukushima governor coming up on October 26 Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #6

Hey Art RobertEarl Oct 2014 #9

Thanks. eom littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #35

Nothing new. They're still trying to MineralMan Oct 2014 #7

Workable idea RobertEarl Oct 2014 #12

Indeed. eom littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #36

How did you do that? RobertEarl Oct 2014 #39

Stop making the awful toxic shit we have no workable plan for disposal. JEB Oct 2014 #132

Switch to renewables ozone_man Oct 2014 #14

Indeed grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #45

Thanks for the reminder flamingdem Oct 2014 #11

Thanks for the update - Rec n/t malaise Oct 2014 #13

You're welcome, malaise RobertEarl Oct 2014 #48

If Sun Tzu were alive, he'd figure out a way to use that radioactive water to kill the ebola virus Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #16

Melting starfish...nt SidDithers Oct 2014 #18

That was my favorite song in "Hair" Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #20

K&R for exposure. JEB Oct 2014 #21

Thanks, JEB RobertEarl Oct 2014 #23

Excuse my ignorance, but what is DI? JEB Oct 2014 #31

DI is Discussionist.com RobertEarl Oct 2014 #32

If you want to read more bullshit about Fukushima go to ENEnews.com zappaman Oct 2014 #22

The upcoming gubernatorial election in Fukushima Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #29

Exactly. JEB Oct 2014 #131

They are cleaning up a very expensive mess made by a tsunami. hunter Oct 2014 #24

Actually RobertEarl Oct 2014 #33

You didn't read what you replied to. FBaggins Oct 2014 #64

It is well known RobertEarl Oct 2014 #68

Nope. FBaggins Oct 2014 #70

Smoke was seen RobertEarl Oct 2014 #129

Smoke was seen? FBaggins Oct 2014 #135

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! AnalystInParadise Oct 2014 #25

Kick.... daleanime Oct 2014 #26

Fukushima Electric Power wants to restart some nuclear reactors Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #28

I am always surprised JEB Oct 2014 #30

We have our suspicions RobertEarl Oct 2014 #34

Defaming legitimate news sources? I thought we were talking about ENENews? FBaggins Oct 2014 #44

The OP has literally claimed that the radiation traveled backwards through time. jeff47 Oct 2014 #65

You? Again? RobertEarl Oct 2014 #74

You might try actually reading the reports you cite as evidence. FBaggins Oct 2014 #76

Yes, of course RobertEarl Oct 2014 #83

Is Fukushima radiation still causing dolphin deaths in the Atlantic? zappaman Oct 2014 #84

Link or slink RobertEarl Oct 2014 #86

Guess I'll link, Bob. zappaman Oct 2014 #88

That's 4 times now, za RobertEarl Oct 2014 #90

Nice try Bob. zappaman Oct 2014 #92

Thanks RobertEarl Oct 2014 #94

You're welcome, Bob zappaman Oct 2014 #95

Lol! "There is even a name for it" FBaggins Oct 2014 #99

Yep me. It really sucks when people remember your fearmongering, huh? (nt) jeff47 Oct 2014 #101

Nuclear waste is a killer RobertEarl Oct 2014 #108

Good thing I'm not insisting that it isn't a killer. jeff47 Oct 2014 #109

What things started before Fukushima? RobertEarl Oct 2014 #110

Reported, as in you saw the reporting of them. jeff47 Oct 2014 #116

Don't forget the dolphins dying in the Atlantic because of Fukushima. n/t zappaman Oct 2014 #117

Actually RobertEarl Oct 2014 #122

No, not actually jeff47 Oct 2014 #125

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #126

Link or slink. zappaman Oct 2014 #127

Because the OP has demonstrated repeatedly he doesn't know what he's talking about. NuclearDem Oct 2014 #91

Don't forget he thinks Fukushima radiation hit the Atlantic zappaman Oct 2014 #93

Very good, nice kick RobertEarl Oct 2014 #96

You've left off some of his greatest hits FBaggins Oct 2014 #100

The one good thing about Fukedupshima (if there is such) is that it apparently has convinced nationalize the fed Oct 2014 #41

A "rather large solar plant in less than 2 years" ? FBaggins Oct 2014 #46

Bookmarking...nt SidDithers Oct 2014 #56

Here's some info and links to more info... L0oniX Oct 2014 #51

"The concentrations are safe"...??? RobertEarl Oct 2014 #53

They already tell us when the ocean isn't safe. Sirveri Oct 2014 #58

Point is; radiation RobertEarl Oct 2014 #59

They already know what it will do and how it will accumulate. Sirveri Oct 2014 #73

Sure, sure RobertEarl Oct 2014 #78

Lol! FBaggins Oct 2014 #81

Well considering that they actually release those numbers... Sirveri Oct 2014 #103

It is of interest that.... RobertEarl Oct 2014 #106

Wrong as usual FBaggins Oct 2014 #61

You haven't been following the reports have you? RobertEarl Oct 2014 #63

You're the one disagreeing with the oceanographers FBaggins Oct 2014 #67

You'd have better luck teaching calculus to a dog zappaman Oct 2014 #69

It isn't for his benefit. FBaggins Oct 2014 #71

Are you sure you are not undercover anti-nuke? RobertEarl Oct 2014 #87

Are you sure you're not undercover pro-nuclear? NuclearDem Oct 2014 #97

That's why he isn't welcome back in the E/E group FBaggins Oct 2014 #98

Here is the reason I was blocked: Email with host RobertEarl Oct 2014 #128

I didn't say that's why you were banned FBaggins Oct 2014 #134

And they are still releasing RobertEarl Oct 2014 #72

No they aren't. FBaggins Oct 2014 #75

Bwahahaha RobertEarl Oct 2014 #77

You cackling is oddly fitting FBaggins Oct 2014 #79

ENEnews is killing nuclear support RobertEarl Oct 2014 #80

Nope FBaggins Oct 2014 #82

ENEnews is doing Marvelous work RobertEarl Oct 2014 #85

ENEnews is a propaganda outlet that makes anti-nuclear activists look like loons. hunter Oct 2014 #102

+1 dumbcat Oct 2014 #104

You're probably close re: why it was created FBaggins Oct 2014 #105

It is funny to read these comments RobertEarl Oct 2014 #107

As far as "Chemist" over at DailyKos & the findings of the truedelphi Oct 2014 #118