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In reply to the discussion: Hillary Clinton and the Progressive Pursuit of Perfection [View all]NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)31. "She has none." is an unproven claim. The truth is that her heritage wasn't documented.
So it can neither be proven true or false:
Native American controversy
In April 2012, the Boston Herald drew attention to Warren's law directory entries from 1986 to 1995, in which she had self-identified as having Native American ancestry.[56][57] Because of these entries, Harvard Law School had added her to a list of minority professors in response to criticisms about a lack of faculty diversity. Warren said that she was unaware that Harvard had done so until she read about it in a newspaper.[58][59][60] According to Warren and her brothers, they grew up "listening to our mother and grandmother and other relatives talk about our familys Cherokee and Delaware heritage".[61][62][63][64]
The New England Historical Genealogical Society found no documentary proof of Warren having Native American lineage,[62][65] but a spokesperson from the Oklahoma Historical Society said "finding a definitive answer about Native American heritage can be difficult, not only because of intermarriage, but also because some Native Americans opted not to be put on federal rolls, while others who were not Native American did put their names on rolls to get access to land."[66]
Her ethnicity claims became the focus of the media's election coverage for a certain time, during which her opponents bought ads asking her for explanations and to "come clean about her motivations" and some members of the Cherokee Nation asked how her claim influenced universities interested in hiring her.[56] Colleagues and supervisors at the schools where she had worked publicly supported her statement that she did not receive preferential treatment.[59][60][62] In polls, 72% of voters said the issue would not impact their vote in the election.[67]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Warren#Native_American_controversy
In April 2012, the Boston Herald drew attention to Warren's law directory entries from 1986 to 1995, in which she had self-identified as having Native American ancestry.[56][57] Because of these entries, Harvard Law School had added her to a list of minority professors in response to criticisms about a lack of faculty diversity. Warren said that she was unaware that Harvard had done so until she read about it in a newspaper.[58][59][60] According to Warren and her brothers, they grew up "listening to our mother and grandmother and other relatives talk about our familys Cherokee and Delaware heritage".[61][62][63][64]
The New England Historical Genealogical Society found no documentary proof of Warren having Native American lineage,[62][65] but a spokesperson from the Oklahoma Historical Society said "finding a definitive answer about Native American heritage can be difficult, not only because of intermarriage, but also because some Native Americans opted not to be put on federal rolls, while others who were not Native American did put their names on rolls to get access to land."[66]
Her ethnicity claims became the focus of the media's election coverage for a certain time, during which her opponents bought ads asking her for explanations and to "come clean about her motivations" and some members of the Cherokee Nation asked how her claim influenced universities interested in hiring her.[56] Colleagues and supervisors at the schools where she had worked publicly supported her statement that she did not receive preferential treatment.[59][60][62] In polls, 72% of voters said the issue would not impact their vote in the election.[67]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Warren#Native_American_controversy
I think that the Republicans will look foolish trying such a tactic.
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Why don't you tell us all about it? You INSINUATE plenty, but until you've seen the agreements
MADem
Oct 2014
#40
i agree, even if Clinton wasn't going to run i don't think Warren would get in the race
JI7
Oct 2014
#37
I can't speak for all of those who like Warren, but I believe they see her and those senators allied
davidpdx
Oct 2014
#26
i agree, that's why she doesn't have much support on the ground as there was for Obama early on
JI7
Oct 2014
#30
that is fucking baloney! How can you say that and still call yourself a Democrat?
VanillaRhapsody
Oct 2014
#68
lol. there are sure are. there are a number of coservadems pretending to be liberals.
cali
Oct 2014
#85
Actually there are ALOT more Independents....trying to tell Democrats what to do!
VanillaRhapsody
Oct 2014
#88
and I have told YOU to prove it with a better graph....Until YOU do .......
VanillaRhapsody
Oct 2014
#93
Maybe you can't, but the RNC and all their minions can--and do. Often. Constantly. It is a
MADem
Oct 2014
#17
If you aren't going to bother to even read what I write, I'm not going to bother engaging you.
MADem
Oct 2014
#19
and Hillary declared running for what exactly? Is it possible to 'elect' someone
LawDeeDah
Oct 2014
#77
"She has none." is an unproven claim. The truth is that her heritage wasn't documented.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2014
#31
It's not a case of "will look foolish"--they've already done it and they continue to do it.
MADem
Oct 2014
#39
She believed what her parents told her, I'm sure. I don't think she had a deceitful bone in her
MADem
Oct 2014
#124
I'm not a Warren acolyte, but what you are saying about her lack of Indian heritage is unfair.
pnwmom
Oct 2014
#134
then come up with your own graphs and supporting evidence to prove it!
VanillaRhapsody
Oct 2014
#102
It is interesting to see the rollout of the "if you are not for Hillary you are a paid RW operative"
djean111
Oct 2014
#13
are YOU committed to vote for whomever wins the Democratic Primary election...
VanillaRhapsody
Oct 2014
#95
She is too hawkish. If she gets in I doubt we go 4 years without new boots on the ground somewhere.
craigmatic
Oct 2014
#21
Seems to me that wanting/requiring universal Democratic support for Hillary is - a unicorn.
djean111
Oct 2014
#23
The thing is, there has always been attacks on the Dem nom from supposed "progressives"
baldguy
Oct 2014
#47
Pro war, pro Wall Street, pro TPP, pro Keystone XL. Long way between there and "perfection".
Scuba
Oct 2014
#50
Oh, haven't you heard? Being against all those are all ponies and unicorns now. n/t
djean111
Oct 2014
#51
Oh your pet peeves again....as if they are the ONLY issues to be concerned with...
VanillaRhapsody
Oct 2014
#54
She has a strong voting record on women's rights. Rhetoric on other progressive issues....
Scuba
Oct 2014
#70
I'm sorry...YOU don't get to weigh the issues for the Party now do you?
VanillaRhapsody
Oct 2014
#84
right and your scale needs recalibrating if YOU think Hillary Clinton is equal to Richard Nixon!
VanillaRhapsody
Oct 2014
#116
YOU keep telling yourself that there is ONLY one issue to consider.....
VanillaRhapsody
Oct 2014
#86
Sorry, but I think you gave away your credibility when you described war, economic injustice,
Marr
Oct 2014
#109
I described HIS pet issues....I didn't define those....and I will thank you NOT to put your words
VanillaRhapsody
Oct 2014
#110
Stop it til after the elections! She sucks on costly trade & war & income disparity.
grahamhgreen
Oct 2014
#72
The Waltons and other 1%'ers support Hillary because she'll help them keep
closeupready
Oct 2014
#79
Is this the vote for the Democrat we tell you to thread or you aren't a good Democrat?
mmonk
Oct 2014
#80
Why yes, it is! And that really long, meant to derail the conversation by making it tedious to
djean111
Oct 2014
#105
DNC won't stop until it flushes liberals out of politics - it just gets worse
whereisjustice
Oct 2014
#133