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KingCharlemagne

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80. Your argument falls into the same category as "You can't judge the actions of all

Sun Oct 12, 2014, 10:28 AM

Oct 2014

cops by the actions of a few bad apples."

Well, excuse me, until the good cops start arresting the bad cops, that particular trope should be laid to rest.

Same goes with fans.

I have relatives who live in the greater St. Louis area (and are big Cards fans). Short of wearing sheets and hoods, they're about as racist as they come in post-60s America. We're talking driving down the road, seeing a driver do something they don't like and shouting "You fu*king n****r" immediately, like some reflex action. Often times said driver is white, but makes no difference.

I'm ashamed to admit I share the same gene pool (mother's side) with these lumpenproles. I haven't had anything to do with these relatives for 25-odd years, but seeing this video sure triggered some personal memories. I was searching the crowd half-expecting to see my relatives there.

So forgive me for making assumptions based on limited information but also on directly-experienced personal history.

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St. Louis Cardinals fans chant “Africa! Africa!” at Ferguson protesters [View all] Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 OP

As a Giants fan, I almost want to thank these assholes for their utterly tasteless behavior. nomorenomore08 Oct 2014 #1

You want to "thank" them? HuckleB Oct 2014 #9

I was being facetious. Regardless, your point is well taken. n/t nomorenomore08 Oct 2014 #12

OK, then. You win the day! HuckleB Oct 2014 #49

if/when Hillary wins DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #2

After watching the PUMA paroxysm in 2008.... Scootaloo Oct 2014 #15

I see that ugly trith and raise ye one DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #70

Hillary, who identified her constituents as "hard-working white people?" That Hillary? merrily Oct 2014 #77

St. Louis fans? Red neck racists more like it. A suit may make the man, a jersey not so much. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #3

FYI~ sheshe2 Oct 2014 #16

I was shocked to see it alerted. The explanation one juror gave is also mine. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #22

That wasn't mine but close... sheshe2 Oct 2014 #23

k&r for the clear demonstration of actual insanity. (nt) enough Oct 2014 #4

I know there are some decent cards fans out there Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #5

Thanks,,, pangaia Oct 2014 #20

Go Royals! How about another I-70 WS? Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #104

The protesters are Cardinals fans too. n/t Gore1FL Oct 2014 #6

That's probably true, but its irrelevant. HuckleB Oct 2014 #10

There probably are fans doing so. There are probably others fleeing from them. Gore1FL Oct 2014 #13

I don't buy it. HuckleB Oct 2014 #47

I'll take your word for it. Gore1FL Oct 2014 #65

You're funny. Did you actually watch the video? Did you see any fans 'fleeing' from KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #61

I know enough about Busch stadium to know the entirety of the crowd was not captured in the video Gore1FL Oct 2014 #64

Your argument falls into the same category as "You can't judge the actions of all KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #80

So as a Cardinals fan, I am therefore a racist because of your all-trumping anecdotes? Gore1FL Oct 2014 #96

Try generalizing other large, diverse groups, and see what happens . . . branford Oct 2014 #98

Just depends on the group it seems... Oktober Oct 2014 #117

Disgusting. Solly Mack Oct 2014 #7

There's no racism in America... paleotn Oct 2014 #8

Yup, the Supreme Court told us ... aggiesal Oct 2014 #34

They used to wear hoods, now, they are proud of their racism, ugly Americans. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2014 #102

I typically don't give a shit about baseball, but City Lights Oct 2014 #11

Hey, I resent you calling my Cardinals "fucking." pangaia Oct 2014 #21

Poor placement of "fucking" on my part. City Lights Oct 2014 #31

That's much better. pangaia Oct 2014 #73

... City Lights Oct 2014 #74

Thing is, I like the Giants also. pangaia Oct 2014 #75

Tough choices. City Lights Oct 2014 #76

I hope the black and Latino players on the team . . . GASP! . . . KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #54

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #62

Wow. Gemini Cat Oct 2014 #14

Protestors are showing up at public events customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #17

"as they make people who have no stake...start thinking about taking a side" marmar Oct 2014 #25

That's the most visible part of it customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #82

Yeah, it's a real tragedy, white folks being inconvenienced. NuclearDem Oct 2014 #26

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Best post ever! Sincerest hat tip. KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #58

If you're trying to get someone on your side customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #83

What mockery of justice that white people can't enjoy themselves NuclearDem Oct 2014 #94

Yeah, it sure worked well customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #95

Yeah, which is why Occupy fizzled out after they disrupted traffic in NYC. NuclearDem Oct 2014 #97

And where is OWS today customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #111

That question has been asked and answered so many times. NuclearDem Oct 2014 #116

OK, I'll admit customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #124

Yeah! You're right! Iggo Oct 2014 #27

We have public streets and public parks customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #84

And that causes them to suddenly become racists? Bullshit. NYC Liberal Oct 2014 #28

The relative handful of boorish clowns who did this customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #85

WTF? Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #32

It isn't even about the money customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #86

you always manage awoke_in_2003 Oct 2014 #36

What line is that? customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #87

I tried raising your very same points about strategy in the other recent St. Louis thread. branford Oct 2014 #99

Some here customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #110

Revolution though the power of annoyance.... Oktober Oct 2014 #118

I saw that other thread JonLP24 Oct 2014 #130

I don't know that poster, you or anyone else really on an anonymous board. branford Oct 2014 #132

Basically all I was saying JonLP24 Oct 2014 #133

All Americans have a stake in this! Dustlawyer Oct 2014 #41

Yes, they do customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #88

st louis symphony orchestra shallwechat Oct 2014 #66

Clearly, they were a more refined audience customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #89

im pretty sure there was no alcohol being consumed in the symphony hall yesiwasacop Oct 2014 #103

That's clearly a factor customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #108

Kewl story bro! Rex Oct 2014 #68

Not sure how to take your response, but customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #90

Exhibit A - The Detroit Riots of 1967. The city never fully recovered. n/t branford Oct 2014 #100

Good point customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #109

There's a word for doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results . . . branford Oct 2014 #115

So you think it's perfectly natural gollygee Oct 2014 #112

It is natural customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #114

No, that just isn't so gollygee Oct 2014 #122

Well, now they know customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #123

I can certainly understand the sentiment many have to use "blowback" rather than more accurate label LanternWaste Oct 2014 #126

Would the term customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #127

Who needs supporters like the ones described in OP JonLP24 Oct 2014 #129

Clearly, they were at the extreme end of the spectrum customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #131

Newsflash: These people are way more likely to vote in November than Obama voters. onehandle Oct 2014 #18

That guy actually runs a forum for Cards fans. LeftyMom Oct 2014 #24

That one never gets old. merrily Oct 2014 #78

Does he know he's a laughing stock on the internet ? Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #121

Wow. That woman looks so angry. gollygee Oct 2014 #19

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Absolutely demon-posessed insane hatred NBachers Oct 2014 #33

Tragic, very sad fadedrose Oct 2014 #29

Pfft. You'd think racists only are racist on the Internet. alp227 Oct 2014 #35

Darren Wilson should surrender. joanbarnes Oct 2014 #37

To whom? NaturalHigh Oct 2014 #39

I have a sinking feeling that he means Wilson should surrender to the waiting and angry mob... n/t branford Oct 2014 #101

Well, I hope not, but I was kind of wondering about that. NaturalHigh Oct 2014 #106

*crickets* Oktober Oct 2014 #119

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U.S.A., U.S.A., U.S.A., --- Hoppy Oct 2014 #38

What's up with that zombie looking woman in the pic.. what crawled up her ass? Cha Oct 2014 #40

Hate Stupidity and Racism Cha... sheshe2 Oct 2014 #46

Time for some PropaneJane, she.. Cha Oct 2014 #50

Oh yes, Cha. sheshe2 Oct 2014 #55

Tell it! I may actually have Skidmore Oct 2014 #92

Isn't it just, Skidmore! Cha Oct 2014 #107

Ugly combination, isn't it? Skidmore Oct 2014 #93

It is ugly Skidmore. sheshe2 Oct 2014 #105

Maybe they can start chanting "we suck really bad". 3-0, Giants win. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2014 #42

I'm a Dodger fan, and I never never NEVER root for the Hated Giants. Iggo Oct 2014 #45

That works for me. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2014 #51

They're bigots and I hope their team loses. Iggo Oct 2014 #60

Some ugly shit davidpdx Oct 2014 #43

A perfect unsealed example of the racism that exists in AmeriKKKa. Hulk Oct 2014 #44

This is a report about the game on October 6, if I'm reading it correctly. Were there KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #53

She looks flat out crazed damnedifIknow Oct 2014 #56

her racist behavior posted on the internet. i wonder if she's cringing now Liberal_in_LA Oct 2014 #113

great suffering bloodstained godz. navarth Oct 2014 #57

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I wish you all could have seen this reply to my post that got auto removed. navarth Oct 2014 #72

Pulling the bandaid off the assembled Klansmen. True Blue Door Oct 2014 #59

. AtomicKitten Oct 2014 #67

They look like zombies. Rex Oct 2014 #69

This has really turned the play offs ugly for me. logosoco Oct 2014 #71

Ugh. merrily Oct 2014 #79

Ya...threads like this usually bring out the Stormfront types Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #81

Ugh. They should let the MIRT team enjoy their Sunday. merrily Oct 2014 #91

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And yet the baseball gods have as yet failed to punish them. KamaAina Oct 2014 #125

They've been punished. Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #135

BAM! KamaAina Oct 2014 #136

Wow ugly can't get uglier than these haters lunasun Oct 2014 #128

Well the Cardinals lost tonight and they are ELIMINATED Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #134