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39. In other news water is wet.

Sun Oct 12, 2014, 02:01 PM

Oct 2014

Of course they were. An error was made in the process at some point though. Once the sick person has built up a high viral load they're highly contagious. Extreme caution is required to make sure the virus isn't spread at that point. They made a tragic mistake and this health care provider is paying for the mistake.

I'm wondering if this latest patient shouldn't be removed from this hospital and sent to one of our US facilities where they're better equipped and trained to deal with infectious diseases of this type. I'm not trashing the hospital, but the reality is one health care worker there did manage to contract the disease even through their precautions. Which isn't something which has happened with the other patients brought into the US.

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Healthcare worker was wearing CDC approved protective gear. [View all] Savannahmann Oct 2014 OP

It could be as simple as the Spanish case. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #1

The problem I have with that excuse is it doesn't make sense. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #6

From what I read, one time she removed the patient's diaper, the other time she removed patient's LisaL Oct 2014 #7

I've read she cleaned it. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #9

She may have been exposed before she cleaned the room. We don't know exactly when she was exposed. yardwork Oct 2014 #18

It doesn't say that was her only contact with him - Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author Shivering Jemmy Oct 2014 #16

All that needs to happen is a single virus particle coming into contact with kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #34

Sneezing and coughing release droplets which is how 'flu' is caught Demsrule86 Oct 2014 #60

It is much more contagious than reported Demsrule86 Oct 2014 #59

Someone on CNN suggested that a few regional centers TBF Oct 2014 #2

If not properly used and proper procedures not followed it's not all that "protective" hobbit709 Oct 2014 #3

Well, DUH. Except there is no evidence as yet for even mentioning this. WinkyDink Oct 2014 #5

And there's even less evidence that the virus magically got through all the protection. hobbit709 Oct 2014 #8

Um. Yeah. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #10

You grasp at your straw, and I'll sip at mine. WinkyDink Oct 2014 #15

Sluuurp! hobbit709 Oct 2014 #17

Sadly, protection is only acheived etherealtruth Oct 2014 #11

One of Murphy's Laws. hobbit709 Oct 2014 #13

Unfortunately, any one of us can act foolishly etherealtruth Oct 2014 #20

Even with proper training and practice it only takes one little slip and it all becomes worthless hobbit709 Oct 2014 #23

So have I (seen it happen) .... etherealtruth Oct 2014 #24

Protective gear is a good start SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2014 #4

Exactly .... etherealtruth Oct 2014 #12

Yes, the discipline to properly implement the use of the gear HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #19

Emory & Nebraska setups are far more intense Yo_Mama Oct 2014 #14

do folks actually believe the infected dr's were all having sex with their patients? ileus Oct 2014 #22

Some of them believe distantearlywarning Oct 2014 #25

+ a gazillion. nt Mojorabbit Oct 2014 #36

+a trillion. nt magical thyme Oct 2014 #61

Excellent post. nt laundry_queen Oct 2014 #63

wtf? the nurse in spain, without thought touched her face. ooops. can = infected. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #33

Some protocol was not followed still_one Oct 2014 #26

CDC has assured us Ebola not very contagious scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #27

But you can get it while wearing full protective gear. LisaL Oct 2014 #29

I would highly recommend that everyone watch this. It really is simple LiberalArkie Oct 2014 #28

it is. i did. it was very very informative. an excellent watch in better understanding. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #32

Ebola Spread Shows Flaws in Protective Gear and Procedures riverwalker Oct 2014 #30

t took a couple days, for the nurse in spain to pin point, where she probably got it. seabeyond Oct 2014 #31

seabeyond, she was not a nurse, not a professional, but an inadequately trained unlicensed volunteer uppityperson Oct 2014 #47

and this was THEIR first. and you learn. and people will continue to make mistakes because... seabeyond Oct 2014 #48

Indeed, we do not have the same environment at all. uppityperson Oct 2014 #49

Expressing it that way, that the worker was wearing the approved protective gear, SheilaT Oct 2014 #35

So one little element. One single strand if you will. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #37

Basically, yes. SheilaT Oct 2014 #40

experimentally, 1-10 in an aerosol exposure are enough HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #41

Several interesting articles with general background Yo_Mama Oct 2014 #38

In other news water is wet. herding cats Oct 2014 #39

Yes, they should have moved him to Emory, Nebraska, or one of the other two hospitals LisaL Oct 2014 #42

The hospital made the same claim they were capable of handling the Ebola case. herding cats Oct 2014 #46

Mr. Duncan was put on dialysis and ventillation. LisaL Oct 2014 #52

I hate to say this, but the latest reports appear to be making it clear..... AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #43

They are just speculating. LisaL Oct 2014 #44

I'm sorry, but that is almost certainly how it happened. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #45

Shouldn't you postpone ruling things out, until you know how she got infected? LisaL Oct 2014 #50

The worker may have taken the gear off wrong. nt MADem Oct 2014 #51

Total speculation at this point. LisaL Oct 2014 #53

Well, I was speculating....that's why I said "may have." MADem Oct 2014 #54

Before we get too excited, let's confirm the diagnosis. missingthebigdog Oct 2014 #55

No, you don't understand correctly. LisaL Oct 2014 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author missingthebigdog Oct 2014 #57

I see that since my last post, the diagnosis has been confirmed missingthebigdog Oct 2014 #58

They need "spotters" to help with the undressing and video SoCalDem Oct 2014 #62