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LawDeeDah

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27. Ah, I see. If I like Warren that means I have to hate Obama and

Sun Oct 12, 2014, 01:09 PM

Oct 2014

if I like Obama I have to hate Warren.

Nope. I can like and support the both of them - Warren having criticisms about the administration is not something I would ditch her over - that is ridiculous. And Obama not being able to control the money changers, that have ruled the earth for centuries, isn't going to make me think less of him either.

I bet Warren gave Obama a call that went somethig like this:

Well, Barack, I think you know what I am calling about.
Yes, Elizabeth, some think distancing themselves from me will give them advantage - go, knock your socks off, Beth. You have my blessing, you know that. Say whatever you need to to help the democrats beat those disgusting republicans.
Okay, Mr. President, I knew you would understand.
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Warren on Obama Admin: “They protected Wall Street. Not families who were losing their homes, jobs" [View all] kpete Oct 2014 OP

That woman is brilliant MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #1

But Manny, my third way DLC approved media.... vt_native Oct 2014 #2

No, no, no...because... blackspade Oct 2014 #86

Populism is Eurasian. We are now at War with Eurasia. Tommymac Oct 2014 #115

or something....it is a privileged perspective Supersedeas Oct 2014 #143

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025631843 L0oniX Oct 2014 #11

Ok, has she actually said, Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #3

LOL MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #4

Shit! Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #6

I'm trying to guess who HRC will choose as VP... littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #17

Goldman-Sachs rhett o rick Oct 2014 #34

^^LOL^^maybe? irisblue Oct 2014 #56

Lloyd Blankfein: "I held fundraisers for her." (HRC) nt antigop Oct 2014 #65

... littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #76

Zing!! Fearless Oct 2014 #104

Exactly. billhicks76 Oct 2014 #105

Well done! littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #107

Elizabeth Warren: ‘I am not running for president’ wyldwolf Oct 2014 #22

at this very moment, no one is 'running for president' or have you news the rest LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #58

Don't you think everyone has already read that silly spin? wyldwolf Oct 2014 #62

There is only one answer: Time LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #66

of course. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #68

she has told people setting up committees on her behalf to stop doing so dsc Oct 2014 #9

Yet, Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #13

Elizabeth Warren: ‘I am not running for president’ wyldwolf Oct 2014 #23

Hillary's said she's ruled out running for President in 2016 MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #28

Has anyone denied she said it? wyldwolf Oct 2014 #32

You must be thinking of a different site. nt MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #35

show me where anyone here has denied Clinton said, in 2012, she would not run in 2016 wyldwolf Oct 2014 #37

What does 2012 have to do with it? nt MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #41

Games, Manny? Means you got nothing. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #43

So you have no reason. MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #44

Right, I have no reason wyldwolf Oct 2014 #46

You are reading into her words what you want to hear. A Simple Game Oct 2014 #74

What does "I plan to serve out my term" mean? wyldwolf Oct 2014 #75

I thought I answered that in my post. But have you ever made a plan that needed to be A Simple Game Oct 2014 #79

So you have special insight into her future plans. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #84

No you are the one with the special insight. I have been saying all along that A Simple Game Oct 2014 #92

People "plan" a lot of things... That doesn't mean that plans don't change... cascadiance Oct 2014 #80

So you do have some other wordly insight! wyldwolf Oct 2014 #82

Never said I did... Just that you DON'T have that insight either! cascadiance Oct 2014 #87

But I do take people at their word. YOU apparently don't. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #111

I do that AT THIS MOMENT she's not running... cascadiance Oct 2014 #119

...and she has given no indication she is - which is why you resort to parsing her words. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #122

You must be really WORRIED about her to continue this discussion! cascadiance Oct 2014 #123

Not worried at all. I've said many times I'd welcome her. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #126

Then why do you continue to argue with us?... cascadiance Oct 2014 #128

I'm merely correcting the record. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #136

Correcting implies that what we have said is WRONG! You've not been able to do that! cascadiance Oct 2014 #138

cascadiance says Warren hasn't said she's not running. Warren says she has. Record corrected. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #145

I think the real issue is... cui bono Oct 2014 #109

I think the real issue is... wyldwolf Oct 2014 #112

But why do you care so much to keep posting so much that she isn't? cascadiance Oct 2014 #120

I don't. If someone repeatedly said the world was flat, I'd correct that, too. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #121

And there's a far greater chance that Warren might run for president than the world being flat... cascadiance Oct 2014 #124

So? She's said she isn't and I take her at her word. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #125

And I take Hillary for her word now that she "IS NOT RUNNING NOW" either! cascadiance Oct 2014 #129

OK! Great! But so what? wyldwolf Oct 2014 #135

Precisely on your constant meaningless responses here... cascadiance Oct 2014 #139

Just because you're talking in circles doesn't mean my responses are meaningless wyldwolf Oct 2014 #140

Yes she has....many times.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #36

And Hillary Clinton has ALSO repeatedly "not announced" her plans to run either... cascadiance Oct 2014 #81

I haven't seen her once say "she is not running" but I HAVE seen Elizabeth Warren say so repeatedly VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #88

she is not PLANNING on running! cascadiance Oct 2014 #90

WTF are you even talking about? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #91

What I *believe* is that the corporate PTB WANT us all to "believe" that Clinton is runniing... cascadiance Oct 2014 #93

uh wut???? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #94

What I am saying is that what we believe doesn't really matter at this point to them... cascadiance Oct 2014 #96

Obama had obstacles fadedrose Oct 2014 #5

Yes he did have obstacles, but he appointed conservatives, friends of Wall Street as his rhett o rick Oct 2014 #40

Not really.. fadedrose Oct 2014 #50

"he appointed friends of the people he was stuck with who were there when he arrived" BuelahWitch Oct 2014 #54

First Obama cabinet, that gets exhumed here at least once a day. ucrdem Oct 2014 #61

Exhumed or baptized by fire, littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #77

LOL, that too. ucrdem Oct 2014 #83

And right afterwards littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #106

Uh, ok, yes, I remember. n/t BuelahWitch Oct 2014 #89

Exactly marym625 Oct 2014 #97

I don't think liberalism means what you think it means. MontyPow Oct 2014 #103

Too bad they didn't obstruct his cabinet appointments. cui bono Oct 2014 #110

you've crammed about every meme in there Skittles Oct 2014 #113

K and R bigwillq Oct 2014 #7

The goal of both parties was clear after the financial collapse: Save the Rich Dragonfli Oct 2014 #8

DU Rec. SixString Oct 2014 #10

once again showing why she deserves our vote - if she changes her mind DrDan Oct 2014 #12

All Too True - So Much For Hope And Change - No Hope And No Change cantbeserious Oct 2014 #14

To be honest I think rescuing the banks made sense at the time and it still does. cstanleytech Oct 2014 #15

They should have taken a hair cut zipplewrath Oct 2014 #141

Oh I agree but some here seem to be advocating for letting the banks just go completely cstanleytech Oct 2014 #142

Execution was everything zipplewrath Oct 2014 #144

Sounds like she is running. Rex Oct 2014 #16

Against Joe Biden. ucrdem Oct 2014 #18

You must prefer certain defeat LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #38

Speaking of gaffes, watch Barack introduce Joe as the next President: ucrdem Oct 2014 #47

Ask yourself, why is the system broken? The answer is that we allow our politicians to be bought. Dustlawyer Oct 2014 #19

^^^This^^^ eom Tommymac Oct 2014 #116

Can't wait to see the fall-out over this wyldwolf Oct 2014 #20

"Progressives", huh? LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #39

I don't know if I would fit your definition of a progressive LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #51

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #21

I believe he was and is still on our side. The Republicans have blind-sided him asjr Oct 2014 #26

he didn't need repubs on this. n/t cali Oct 2014 #30

While I agree that President Obama has been abused by Republicans Enthusiast Oct 2014 #33

So who is *forcing* Obama to push to "fast track" TPP in secret to the congress? cascadiance Oct 2014 #85

Obama didn't have enough of a record really to ID him as absolutely third-way NorthCarolina Oct 2014 #101

You are correct. After the disastrous previous eight years we were ready to believe. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #108

This is why Citizens United has to go away... Lobo27 Oct 2014 #24

She is right, you know. kentuck Oct 2014 #25

Ah, I see. If I like Warren that means I have to hate Obama and LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #27

he made no attempt to do so. and yes, Presidents have gone after "the money changers" cali Oct 2014 #31

well then FDR didn't complete his work, did he? LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #42

A lot of the safeguards FDR put into place were disbanded during the '80s and '90s. BuelahWitch Oct 2014 #53

Yes, that is why electing Mrs. Clinton is such an awesome idea! LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #57

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #69

I think it's fine and healthy to recognize good people when you see them. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #70

K/R Jack Rabbit Oct 2014 #29

Huge K&R Phlem Oct 2014 #45

Good on her - so glad she's talking about the threats to... polichick Oct 2014 #48

Liz Warren - apparently, the latest victim of ODS. bullwinkle428 Oct 2014 #49

The 1% protects itself. Obama bought into their lies hook, line, and sinker. blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #52

Could someone tell Elizabeth Warren about the HARP program, maybe she forgot. Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #55

No, she didn't forget. Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #59

I guess she can tell her story and will still have her belivers, huh. Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #60

She has the memory of an elephant, for Christ's sake! Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #63

Gotcha Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #71

Center right blue dog trickle-downers. Ed Suspicious Oct 2014 #64

But she supports Hillary? LittleBlue Oct 2014 #67

I'm looking forward to the Hillary fans doing a 180 spin and Marr Oct 2014 #72

They did a lot for families who were losing their homes! treestar Oct 2014 #73

countdown to "Warren unequivocally supports Hillary" thread in 3, 2 ... MisterP Oct 2014 #78

TARP helped save my home. kidgie Oct 2014 #95

Holder clasps his hands, smiles broadly and declares "my work is done." whereisjustice Oct 2014 #98

President Obama signs the bills that Congress passes. Algernon Moncrieff Oct 2014 #99

Warren / Sanders 2016!! Initech Oct 2014 #100

+ 1000 !!! orpupilofnature57 Oct 2014 #127

Elizabeth Warren NAILED IT! burrowowl Oct 2014 #102

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Oct 2014 #114

K&R raouldukelives Oct 2014 #117

It is Bernie for me! n/t dotymed Oct 2014 #118

The sad part is Glenn Greenwald has nothing good to say about Dems Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #130

So, any quotes out there that he likes Republicans any more? cascadiance Oct 2014 #131

oh, he's been on the "Rand 4 POTUS" bandwagon for a good long while... Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #132

It seems like he's more against Hillary Clinton whom he claims McCain supports over Rand Paul... cascadiance Oct 2014 #133

She's saying what we know Robbins Oct 2014 #134

K&R for the truth. woo me with science Oct 2014 #137