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52. Mr. Duncan was put on dialysis and ventillation.

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Sun Oct 12, 2014, 03:13 PM

Oct 2014

Both high risk procedures for spreading the virus.
Could the cdc guidelines be inadequate for such procedures?

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Healthcare worker was wearing CDC approved protective gear. [View all] Savannahmann Oct 2014 OP

It could be as simple as the Spanish case. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #1

The problem I have with that excuse is it doesn't make sense. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #6

From what I read, one time she removed the patient's diaper, the other time she removed patient's LisaL Oct 2014 #7

I've read she cleaned it. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #9

She may have been exposed before she cleaned the room. We don't know exactly when she was exposed. yardwork Oct 2014 #18

It doesn't say that was her only contact with him - Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author Shivering Jemmy Oct 2014 #16

All that needs to happen is a single virus particle coming into contact with kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #34

Sneezing and coughing release droplets which is how 'flu' is caught Demsrule86 Oct 2014 #60

It is much more contagious than reported Demsrule86 Oct 2014 #59

Someone on CNN suggested that a few regional centers TBF Oct 2014 #2

If not properly used and proper procedures not followed it's not all that "protective" hobbit709 Oct 2014 #3

Well, DUH. Except there is no evidence as yet for even mentioning this. WinkyDink Oct 2014 #5

And there's even less evidence that the virus magically got through all the protection. hobbit709 Oct 2014 #8

Um. Yeah. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #10

You grasp at your straw, and I'll sip at mine. WinkyDink Oct 2014 #15

Sluuurp! hobbit709 Oct 2014 #17

Sadly, protection is only acheived etherealtruth Oct 2014 #11

One of Murphy's Laws. hobbit709 Oct 2014 #13

Unfortunately, any one of us can act foolishly etherealtruth Oct 2014 #20

Even with proper training and practice it only takes one little slip and it all becomes worthless hobbit709 Oct 2014 #23

So have I (seen it happen) .... etherealtruth Oct 2014 #24

Protective gear is a good start SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2014 #4

Exactly .... etherealtruth Oct 2014 #12

Yes, the discipline to properly implement the use of the gear HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #19

Emory & Nebraska setups are far more intense Yo_Mama Oct 2014 #14

do folks actually believe the infected dr's were all having sex with their patients? ileus Oct 2014 #22

Some of them believe distantearlywarning Oct 2014 #25

+ a gazillion. nt Mojorabbit Oct 2014 #36

+a trillion. nt magical thyme Oct 2014 #61

Excellent post. nt laundry_queen Oct 2014 #63

wtf? the nurse in spain, without thought touched her face. ooops. can = infected. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #33

Some protocol was not followed still_one Oct 2014 #26

CDC has assured us Ebola not very contagious scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #27

But you can get it while wearing full protective gear. LisaL Oct 2014 #29

I would highly recommend that everyone watch this. It really is simple LiberalArkie Oct 2014 #28

it is. i did. it was very very informative. an excellent watch in better understanding. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #32

Ebola Spread Shows Flaws in Protective Gear and Procedures riverwalker Oct 2014 #30

t took a couple days, for the nurse in spain to pin point, where she probably got it. seabeyond Oct 2014 #31

seabeyond, she was not a nurse, not a professional, but an inadequately trained unlicensed volunteer uppityperson Oct 2014 #47

and this was THEIR first. and you learn. and people will continue to make mistakes because... seabeyond Oct 2014 #48

Indeed, we do not have the same environment at all. uppityperson Oct 2014 #49

Expressing it that way, that the worker was wearing the approved protective gear, SheilaT Oct 2014 #35

So one little element. One single strand if you will. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #37

Basically, yes. SheilaT Oct 2014 #40

experimentally, 1-10 in an aerosol exposure are enough HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #41

Several interesting articles with general background Yo_Mama Oct 2014 #38

In other news water is wet. herding cats Oct 2014 #39

Yes, they should have moved him to Emory, Nebraska, or one of the other two hospitals LisaL Oct 2014 #42

The hospital made the same claim they were capable of handling the Ebola case. herding cats Oct 2014 #46

Mr. Duncan was put on dialysis and ventillation. LisaL Oct 2014 #52

I hate to say this, but the latest reports appear to be making it clear..... AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #43

They are just speculating. LisaL Oct 2014 #44

I'm sorry, but that is almost certainly how it happened. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #45

Shouldn't you postpone ruling things out, until you know how she got infected? LisaL Oct 2014 #50

The worker may have taken the gear off wrong. nt MADem Oct 2014 #51

Total speculation at this point. LisaL Oct 2014 #53

Well, I was speculating....that's why I said "may have." MADem Oct 2014 #54

Before we get too excited, let's confirm the diagnosis. missingthebigdog Oct 2014 #55

No, you don't understand correctly. LisaL Oct 2014 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author missingthebigdog Oct 2014 #57

I see that since my last post, the diagnosis has been confirmed missingthebigdog Oct 2014 #58

They need "spotters" to help with the undressing and video SoCalDem Oct 2014 #62