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big_dog

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Sun Oct 12, 2014, 03:46 PM Oct 2014

Fox News Guest/Defense Attorney: Upskirt Victims ‘Made a Conscious Choice To Wear Certain Clothes' [View all]

Defense attorney Evangeline Gomez told Fox News on Sunday that victims of so-called “upskirt” photos did not deserve legal protection if they made a “conscious choice” to wear revealing clothes. Last week, D.C. Superior Court Judge Juliet McKenna ruled that photos taken by Christopher Cleveland did not violate the law because women sitting above him on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial had placed their crotches and buttocks in the public domain.

On Sunday, former prosecutor Jonna Spilbor explained to Fox News that the ruling was “ludicrous” because the judge said that “a woman’s private parts will become public property by virtue of a wardrobe malfunction.” Gomez, however, argued that Judge McKenna had made the right decision.

“She can’t make up the facts,” Gomez said. “There were certain facts in this case, and she’s applying the law of the facts.” “This was not a situation of upskirting,” she continued. “These women made a conscious choice — as the judge pointed out in her decision — to wear certain clothes that day, and some of their body parts were the public domain.”

Fox News host Peter Johnson Jr. likened the case to blaming rape victims for the way they dressed. “Right, blaming the victim,” Spilbor agreed. “There are just certain body parts that automatically have an expectation of privacy attached to them. A woman’s hooha happens to be one of those.” http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/fox-news-guest-upskirt-victims-made-a-conscious-choice-to-wear-certain-clothes/

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Intentionally misleading title. nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #1
Hooha underpants Oct 2014 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author big_dog Oct 2014 #4
I'm waiting to see that one in a judicial opinion. n/t winter is coming Oct 2014 #32
So how would this attorney feel about a camera in the bathroom stall where she pees? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #3
In a bathroom stall one legally has an "expectation of privacy". Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #6
well when I am walking around in public....I have an expectation of what is under my clothes as VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #7
I believe in a locker room shower there would also be an expectation of privacy. (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #8
How ....they are not showering privately....they are showering publically among each other.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #9
would someone expect a picture to be taken there? jberryhill Oct 2014 #12
I don't "expect" a camera up my skirt either! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #14
What if "up" isn't vertical? Thor_MN Oct 2014 #18
which means its open season to have your shit photographed and published? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #20
Can you explain the difference between this case and pictures taken at the beach? Thor_MN Oct 2014 #24
So men have to be specifically told . . . Brigid Oct 2014 #5
Very clear case of apples trying to debate oranges... Whiskeytide Oct 2014 #10
So there is no illegality of harassing a woman walking into an abortion clinic. . . Laffy Kat Oct 2014 #11
No one stuck a camera ... Whiskeytide Oct 2014 #13
this attorney specifically said "upskirt".....we KNOW what that means... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #15
Well, the lawyer's legal analysis... Whiskeytide Oct 2014 #21
so anytime a woman has an accident and some part of her body is accidentally exposed... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #22
I can't really address that question as posed... Whiskeytide Oct 2014 #25
Maybe I'm missing details, but where did the "sticking a camera up a skirt" occur in this case? Thor_MN Oct 2014 #17
Details are severely elusive with this report. Sherman A1 Oct 2014 #19
If someone displays body parts in public they may well be recorded. immoderate Oct 2014 #16
Well, her scuzzball client chose to carry his testicles out in public gratuitous Oct 2014 #23
Simple solution... Takket Oct 2014 #26
New business for the women of Afghanistan: Brigid Oct 2014 #28
Well, I guess if those women 'placed their Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #27
Fox news is an upskirt camera. GreatCaesarsGhost Oct 2014 #29
Because when you turn it on... Dr. Strange Oct 2014 #30
Classic. Well done. N/t. Whiskeytide Oct 2014 #31
When I'm out in public I wear either pants or shorts so I avoid that. I can't recall the last time I Louisiana1976 Oct 2014 #33
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