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93. What I *believe* is that the corporate PTB WANT us all to "believe" that Clinton is runniing...

Sun Oct 12, 2014, 06:49 PM

Oct 2014

... and that Warren is not. But the FACTS are that NEITHER of them have announced they are running yet.

I do believe that those that want to run for the people's interests and not corporate dollars are more apt to get squashed if they announce at this point or if there is even a hint of them *running* at this point. That is why I see no reason to completely rule out her running, because if she's smart, and I think most of her followers believe her to be a pretty smart lady, she knows that moreso for her than Clinton, she would damage herself by announcing or even passing hints that she will run now.

Now you can as either a paid or not paid supporter of the corporate interests be trying to reinforce that idea that Clinton's definitely in, and Warren's definitely out, because the "masses" edumacated by the corporate media "believe" that to be true.

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Warren on Obama Admin: “They protected Wall Street. Not families who were losing their homes, jobs" [View all] kpete Oct 2014 OP

That woman is brilliant MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #1

But Manny, my third way DLC approved media.... vt_native Oct 2014 #2

No, no, no...because... blackspade Oct 2014 #86

Populism is Eurasian. We are now at War with Eurasia. Tommymac Oct 2014 #115

or something....it is a privileged perspective Supersedeas Oct 2014 #143

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025631843 L0oniX Oct 2014 #11

Ok, has she actually said, Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #3

LOL MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #4

Shit! Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #6

I'm trying to guess who HRC will choose as VP... littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #17

Goldman-Sachs rhett o rick Oct 2014 #34

^^LOL^^maybe? irisblue Oct 2014 #56

Lloyd Blankfein: "I held fundraisers for her." (HRC) nt antigop Oct 2014 #65

... littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #76

Zing!! Fearless Oct 2014 #104

Exactly. billhicks76 Oct 2014 #105

Well done! littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #107

Elizabeth Warren: ‘I am not running for president’ wyldwolf Oct 2014 #22

at this very moment, no one is 'running for president' or have you news the rest LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #58

Don't you think everyone has already read that silly spin? wyldwolf Oct 2014 #62

There is only one answer: Time LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #66

of course. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #68

she has told people setting up committees on her behalf to stop doing so dsc Oct 2014 #9

Yet, Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #13

Elizabeth Warren: ‘I am not running for president’ wyldwolf Oct 2014 #23

Hillary's said she's ruled out running for President in 2016 MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #28

Has anyone denied she said it? wyldwolf Oct 2014 #32

You must be thinking of a different site. nt MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #35

show me where anyone here has denied Clinton said, in 2012, she would not run in 2016 wyldwolf Oct 2014 #37

What does 2012 have to do with it? nt MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #41

Games, Manny? Means you got nothing. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #43

So you have no reason. MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #44

Right, I have no reason wyldwolf Oct 2014 #46

You are reading into her words what you want to hear. A Simple Game Oct 2014 #74

What does "I plan to serve out my term" mean? wyldwolf Oct 2014 #75

I thought I answered that in my post. But have you ever made a plan that needed to be A Simple Game Oct 2014 #79

So you have special insight into her future plans. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #84

No you are the one with the special insight. I have been saying all along that A Simple Game Oct 2014 #92

People "plan" a lot of things... That doesn't mean that plans don't change... cascadiance Oct 2014 #80

So you do have some other wordly insight! wyldwolf Oct 2014 #82

Never said I did... Just that you DON'T have that insight either! cascadiance Oct 2014 #87

But I do take people at their word. YOU apparently don't. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #111

I do that AT THIS MOMENT she's not running... cascadiance Oct 2014 #119

...and she has given no indication she is - which is why you resort to parsing her words. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #122

You must be really WORRIED about her to continue this discussion! cascadiance Oct 2014 #123

Not worried at all. I've said many times I'd welcome her. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #126

Then why do you continue to argue with us?... cascadiance Oct 2014 #128

I'm merely correcting the record. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #136

Correcting implies that what we have said is WRONG! You've not been able to do that! cascadiance Oct 2014 #138

cascadiance says Warren hasn't said she's not running. Warren says she has. Record corrected. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #145

I think the real issue is... cui bono Oct 2014 #109

I think the real issue is... wyldwolf Oct 2014 #112

But why do you care so much to keep posting so much that she isn't? cascadiance Oct 2014 #120

I don't. If someone repeatedly said the world was flat, I'd correct that, too. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #121

And there's a far greater chance that Warren might run for president than the world being flat... cascadiance Oct 2014 #124

So? She's said she isn't and I take her at her word. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #125

And I take Hillary for her word now that she "IS NOT RUNNING NOW" either! cascadiance Oct 2014 #129

OK! Great! But so what? wyldwolf Oct 2014 #135

Precisely on your constant meaningless responses here... cascadiance Oct 2014 #139

Just because you're talking in circles doesn't mean my responses are meaningless wyldwolf Oct 2014 #140

Yes she has....many times.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #36

And Hillary Clinton has ALSO repeatedly "not announced" her plans to run either... cascadiance Oct 2014 #81

I haven't seen her once say "she is not running" but I HAVE seen Elizabeth Warren say so repeatedly VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #88

she is not PLANNING on running! cascadiance Oct 2014 #90

WTF are you even talking about? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #91

What I *believe* is that the corporate PTB WANT us all to "believe" that Clinton is runniing... cascadiance Oct 2014 #93

uh wut???? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #94

What I am saying is that what we believe doesn't really matter at this point to them... cascadiance Oct 2014 #96

Obama had obstacles fadedrose Oct 2014 #5

Yes he did have obstacles, but he appointed conservatives, friends of Wall Street as his rhett o rick Oct 2014 #40

Not really.. fadedrose Oct 2014 #50

"he appointed friends of the people he was stuck with who were there when he arrived" BuelahWitch Oct 2014 #54

First Obama cabinet, that gets exhumed here at least once a day. ucrdem Oct 2014 #61

Exhumed or baptized by fire, littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #77

LOL, that too. ucrdem Oct 2014 #83

And right afterwards littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #106

Uh, ok, yes, I remember. n/t BuelahWitch Oct 2014 #89

Exactly marym625 Oct 2014 #97

I don't think liberalism means what you think it means. MontyPow Oct 2014 #103

Too bad they didn't obstruct his cabinet appointments. cui bono Oct 2014 #110

you've crammed about every meme in there Skittles Oct 2014 #113

K and R bigwillq Oct 2014 #7

The goal of both parties was clear after the financial collapse: Save the Rich Dragonfli Oct 2014 #8

DU Rec. SixString Oct 2014 #10

once again showing why she deserves our vote - if she changes her mind DrDan Oct 2014 #12

All Too True - So Much For Hope And Change - No Hope And No Change cantbeserious Oct 2014 #14

To be honest I think rescuing the banks made sense at the time and it still does. cstanleytech Oct 2014 #15

They should have taken a hair cut zipplewrath Oct 2014 #141

Oh I agree but some here seem to be advocating for letting the banks just go completely cstanleytech Oct 2014 #142

Execution was everything zipplewrath Oct 2014 #144

Sounds like she is running. Rex Oct 2014 #16

Against Joe Biden. ucrdem Oct 2014 #18

You must prefer certain defeat LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #38

Speaking of gaffes, watch Barack introduce Joe as the next President: ucrdem Oct 2014 #47

Ask yourself, why is the system broken? The answer is that we allow our politicians to be bought. Dustlawyer Oct 2014 #19

^^^This^^^ eom Tommymac Oct 2014 #116

Can't wait to see the fall-out over this wyldwolf Oct 2014 #20

"Progressives", huh? LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #39

I don't know if I would fit your definition of a progressive LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #51

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #21

I believe he was and is still on our side. The Republicans have blind-sided him asjr Oct 2014 #26

he didn't need repubs on this. n/t cali Oct 2014 #30

While I agree that President Obama has been abused by Republicans Enthusiast Oct 2014 #33

So who is *forcing* Obama to push to "fast track" TPP in secret to the congress? cascadiance Oct 2014 #85

Obama didn't have enough of a record really to ID him as absolutely third-way NorthCarolina Oct 2014 #101

You are correct. After the disastrous previous eight years we were ready to believe. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #108

This is why Citizens United has to go away... Lobo27 Oct 2014 #24

She is right, you know. kentuck Oct 2014 #25

Ah, I see. If I like Warren that means I have to hate Obama and LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #27

he made no attempt to do so. and yes, Presidents have gone after "the money changers" cali Oct 2014 #31

well then FDR didn't complete his work, did he? LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #42

A lot of the safeguards FDR put into place were disbanded during the '80s and '90s. BuelahWitch Oct 2014 #53

Yes, that is why electing Mrs. Clinton is such an awesome idea! LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #57

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #69

I think it's fine and healthy to recognize good people when you see them. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #70

K/R Jack Rabbit Oct 2014 #29

Huge K&R Phlem Oct 2014 #45

Good on her - so glad she's talking about the threats to... polichick Oct 2014 #48

Liz Warren - apparently, the latest victim of ODS. bullwinkle428 Oct 2014 #49

The 1% protects itself. Obama bought into their lies hook, line, and sinker. blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #52

Could someone tell Elizabeth Warren about the HARP program, maybe she forgot. Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #55

No, she didn't forget. Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #59

I guess she can tell her story and will still have her belivers, huh. Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #60

She has the memory of an elephant, for Christ's sake! Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #63

Gotcha Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #71

Center right blue dog trickle-downers. Ed Suspicious Oct 2014 #64

But she supports Hillary? LittleBlue Oct 2014 #67

I'm looking forward to the Hillary fans doing a 180 spin and Marr Oct 2014 #72

They did a lot for families who were losing their homes! treestar Oct 2014 #73

countdown to "Warren unequivocally supports Hillary" thread in 3, 2 ... MisterP Oct 2014 #78

TARP helped save my home. kidgie Oct 2014 #95

Holder clasps his hands, smiles broadly and declares "my work is done." whereisjustice Oct 2014 #98

President Obama signs the bills that Congress passes. Algernon Moncrieff Oct 2014 #99

Warren / Sanders 2016!! Initech Oct 2014 #100

+ 1000 !!! orpupilofnature57 Oct 2014 #127

Elizabeth Warren NAILED IT! burrowowl Oct 2014 #102

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Oct 2014 #114

K&R raouldukelives Oct 2014 #117

It is Bernie for me! n/t dotymed Oct 2014 #118

The sad part is Glenn Greenwald has nothing good to say about Dems Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #130

So, any quotes out there that he likes Republicans any more? cascadiance Oct 2014 #131

oh, he's been on the "Rand 4 POTUS" bandwagon for a good long while... Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #132

It seems like he's more against Hillary Clinton whom he claims McCain supports over Rand Paul... cascadiance Oct 2014 #133

She's saying what we know Robbins Oct 2014 #134

K&R for the truth. woo me with science Oct 2014 #137