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BlueMTexpat

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44. Having lived through the trashing of Jimmy Carter,

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 05:01 AM

Oct 2014

although not quite as overt as that given to President Obama, I have too often been struck by a sense of "déjà vu" these days, and especially when spineless members of his own political party distance themselves from him.

Carter was always considered an outsider by the inside-the-Beltway pols and by the "conventional wisdom" of the 1970s. He is also a decent human being. The phonies could never stand that with Carter, what you see really is what you get.

President Obama is an outsider to the predominantly white political establishment. IMO, he has managed to steer an extraordinarily successful course in the face of constant obstructionism and sniping from his own "allies" such as that weasel Panetta. His greatest failure, IMO, has been to expect common sense and statesmanship from other politicians and that includes politicians in his own party.

While the GOP projects its worst fantasies onto others, President Obama projects his ideals. That has proven to be a mistake, especially with respect to the GOP.

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The Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama character assassinations... [View all] kentuck Oct 2014 OP

I know shenmue Oct 2014 #1

Just Right Wing Deflection billhicks76 Oct 2014 #84

I wish I could recommend this a thousand times madokie Oct 2014 #2

I wish others here would rec it. But they won't. But we still know the truth. nt kelliekat44 Oct 2014 #3

Kind of swimming against the current here, aren't you, Kentuck? NBachers Oct 2014 #4

Thanks! kentuck Oct 2014 #6

+1, yeap... when said memes permeate the progressive sounding boards you know you have your uponit7771 Oct 2014 #66

The MSM didn't talk much about St. Reagan and his minions secretly bargaining with Iran before his Dustlawyer Oct 2014 #5

+1 navarth Oct 2014 #72

I do believe Obama, like Carter, will be viewed as a better president bigwillq Oct 2014 #7

Me too. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #25

Bad appointments like Leon Panetta are coming back to haunt President Obama. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #45

Ya know ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #52

But they were not necessarily the best qualified, mist highly competent individuals, and what JDPriestly Oct 2014 #56

While I see your point(s) ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #59

Approach was a lot of the problem with our response to the banking crisis and the bail-out. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #62

Again ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #63

The failure to hear contrarian voices was due to the fact that Obama appointed "highly qualified" JDPriestly Oct 2014 #65

I would suggest ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #70

Have you read Elizabeth Warren's book A Fighting Chance? JDPriestly Oct 2014 #71

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #73

Just read the book. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #75

It has nothing to do with 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #77

I think people forget that it is experience that is after for these appointments LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #57

Agreed ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #60

Geez. They were fucking Republicans. We elected a Democratic President! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #74

More than their being Republican or Democratic ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #76

As someone who has worked in HR druidity33 Oct 2014 #78

I, too, work in HR ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #79

In my opinion... kentuck Oct 2014 #80

Party leaders and "advocates", as well. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #81

Yeah. I liked it when Panetta said, Enthusiast Oct 2014 #82

K & R, good post, thanks Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #8

Reading The Presidents Club currently. A good account of how our ex-presients have preformed lumpy Oct 2014 #15

If he was "weak" he would have turned over the Shah for trial to Iran bluestateguy Oct 2014 #9

You're right, of course. Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #10

I was on discussion boards back when it was Clinton zeemike Oct 2014 #11

I expect that from the right wing LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #12

"So called 'Democrats' ..." 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #54

Carter was attacked much more fervently from the left than the right oberliner Oct 2014 #13

+1 greatlaurel Oct 2014 #24

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2014 #67

Perseption and reputation are everything yeoman6987 Oct 2014 #14

+1,000 malaise Oct 2014 #16

Very well said. The accomplishments of Jimmy Carter kept the country going through Reagan. greatlaurel Oct 2014 #17

Thanks, kentuck. K&R brer cat Oct 2014 #18

Good post! livingonearth Oct 2014 #19

You are so right kentuck. sheshe2 Oct 2014 #20

the "Man from "Hope," Arkansas (if you remember the slogan) got worse... KoKo Oct 2014 #21

And remember, they started the "Obama is just like Carter meme" rufus dog Oct 2014 #22

Yep Iliyah Oct 2014 #40

but but but, his brother billy drank beer. mopinko Oct 2014 #23

What gets me is that these lies are repeated incessantly on DU. baldguy Oct 2014 #26

Yep, I truly believe they want GOP majority and President Iliyah Oct 2014 #41

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2014 #68

Fuckin' A, Bubba! Remember: They laughed at Columbus RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #27

The "trouble" with Jimmy Carter PumpkinAle Oct 2014 #28

I believe he actually lives by TNNurse Oct 2014 #29

He does and they not only can't understand PumpkinAle Oct 2014 #89

The historians will not be fooled. Many who will write his history are alive right now and are aware jwirr Oct 2014 #30

The GOP has been trying to paint Obama as Jimmy Carter Part II since he became president. Drunken Irishman Oct 2014 #31

Character assassination is successful every single time Nuh Uh Oct 2014 #32

I went to D.C. from CA for a USC semester program when Carter was inaugurated pinboy3niner Oct 2014 #33

I know bpositive Oct 2014 #34

Kick Cha Oct 2014 #35

The character assasination of Carter is one thing that led me away from politics bhikkhu Oct 2014 #36

I initially registered as an Independent Iliyah Oct 2014 #38

Obama's greatest achievement will be to oversee that no real change actually happened. blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #37

It's foolish to call Obama impotent. whereisjustice Oct 2014 #39

Right wing criticism of President Obama is the smoke screen. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #46

Don't you all get it? They will character-assassinate or outright-assassinate any Dem we elect. I've Stardust Oct 2014 #42

They trashed Jimmy Carter because the Republicans wanted a lock on the South... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #43

Your's would make an excellent OP. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #47

Thanx.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #53

Having lived through the trashing of Jimmy Carter, BlueMTexpat Oct 2014 #44

^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^ Enthusiast Oct 2014 #48

another sad rec. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2014 #49

KnR. nt tblue37 Oct 2014 #50

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Funny ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #61

K&r... spanone Oct 2014 #55

K&R Grey Oct 2014 #58

Jimmy Carter could run again and even at his age I could vote for him. nt silvershadow Oct 2014 #64

Yes, I've had the same thought recently 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #69

this propaganda slant started back in the 90s demigoddess Oct 2014 #83

President Jimmy Carter who have bee reelected if not for this... Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #85

Jimmy Carter... czarjak Oct 2014 #86

Aside from Fukushima reactor cleanup team, I can't imagine a tougher gig. mahina Oct 2014 #87

K & R juajen Oct 2014 #88