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In reply to the discussion: A hit and a miss from Senator Elizabeth Warren [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)38. Try this, sheshe:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014916302#post4
Saw another thread dripping with venom toward Obama, calling supporters names. That's all there was Sunday morning. Some stories are over a year old, well honed hatred. It masquerades as passion, but one wonders when words that mention peace and justice, come from those that have hate in their hearts and are unfair.
The technique is using Warren and Sanders in classic Segretti style, when one is a Democrat and the other caucuses with Democrats. Their statements are taken out of context. But I don't even fault Warren for this interview. It was like the one she was on with Todd on MTP, trying to blame Obama. She dodged and weaved the accusations, just as she mainly did with this one. She has a message to get out.
It is not 'Vote for ME!' or 'Obama the Traitor!', it is what the big money is doing to us all, including blocking the POTUS. The vitriol is at an all time high. The primaries are over. Yet the anti-Dem hate is full blast, the distortions are OTT because this is going to be a bigger election than 2010 was, and it worked then, too.
I feel bad for those who have become influenced by the toxicity is from well coordinated media attacks designed to get people to take the Koch brothers' cause as their own, not in words, but in results. Koch brothers money is effective. But no one will admit they might be wrong. Nothing new.
And yes, the Koch's put in Scott Brown, then ran him against Warren, and now is funding him in another state. And they want EW out of office there in MA. One less Senator to fight what they intend to do, to destroy the legacy she has fought for:
A GOP Senate's First Target - Elizabeth Warrens Consumer Protection Agency
For years, House Republicans have been trying to gut her greatest accomplishment.
By Erika Eichelberger - Sep. 26, 2014
If the GOP wins the Senate, they'll no doubt use the opportunity to push through a range of measures that are kryptonite to Democratic votersnew abortion restrictions, limits on the ability of the Environmental Protection Agency to combat climate change, a relaxation of the rules reining in Wall Street's worst excesses...
Yet people blame Obama.
The bureau's job is to make sure Americans aren't getting screwed by mortgage lenders, credit card companies, debt collectors, and other financial institutions. It's the first federal agency designed specifically to protect everyday consumers from financial wrongdoing, and Republicans have done everything in their power to hobble the agencyincluding fighting the confirmation of its director, Richard Cordray. Winning the Senate in November could be their best chance to roll back Warren's greatest accomplishment...
Half of their work is already done. The House has passed a bill that would limit the bureau's power by replacing its director with a five-member panel, and subjecting its budget to the congressional appropriations processmeaning that hostile lawmakers could starve it to death. (Unlike most federal agencies, the bureau is bankrolled by the Federal Reserve, an effort to free it from the whims of partisan politics.) House Republicans have also introduced legislation to let other financial regulators overturn CFPB rules, to eliminate a fund the bureau uses to compensate consumers who've been defrauded by an institution that's gone belly-up, and to restrict the kind of data the bureau may collect from consumers. (Republicans have charged that the CFPB's collection of credit data is a violation of privacy, even though the bureau does not collect any personal details the consumer doesn't volunteer.)
Yet people hate the Federal Reserve, and want to effect a Ron Paul and Libertarian plan to eliminate it. A lot more on what they'll do to destroy Warren's work if Democrats buy the Segretti technique:
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/republican-senate-would-gut-elizabeth-warren-consumer-protection-bureau
This is so glaringly obvious, and affects so many, it's impossible to discuss of the RL online.
I posted what 1SBM said, along with others here:
"Electing more Democrats... accomplishes nothing good." Glenn Greenwald.
That's right--Glenn, who has worked for the Kochs, and apparently does not want people like Elizabeth Warren to be elected, said this....
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/15/1262880/-Glenn-Greenwald-advocates-letting-Republicans-destroy-the-country#
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025642630#post5
Your perfect reply:
All part of the plan ...
Posted earlier:
And "Mission Accomplished" ...
could be heard whispered throughout the land. (It seems)
GOP: "Government doesn't work" ... Check!
Libertarians (right and left): "Government is evil" ... Check!
Tea Party: "Government doesn't work and there is no difference between establishment republicans and establishment Democrats" ... Check!
"Liberals/Progressives": "Government is evil and there is no difference between establishment republicans and establishment Democrats" ... Check!
The media has played this narrative on a 7-day, 24-hour loop.
Result: Only 15% of the American people pay close attention to the only mechanism for change.
Nicely played, Oligarchs!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025642630#post14
That piece and the posts objecting to it on KOS, deserve a full read. The post was objected to on the basis of personality and not the political issue and real life effects, which would lead to some honest and intelligent discussion. I posted the poll from the KOS link:
Poll results on question:

http://www.dailykos.com/poll/1708001/vote
29% wanna stand by and watch government, and many of us, burn.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025642630#post24
An excellent reply to me:
I voted 'No." But now it's up to 27.6%. WTF.
People are wrongwrongwrong.There will be NO revolution.
They will turn this country into a big version of current tax havens -- plantation life for the rich with an archipelago of little Dubai's -- namely, entertainments, tours, two-leveled transportation, infrastructure, and service/servants quarters. No schools or medical care except for the rich.
How could our own sell us out?!! Goddammit!!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025642630#post47
None of us object to saying what we think on what's essential. I read the 'don't vote, will not vote for various causes or to have a revolution, etc.' posts every day.
The fact that we are past the primary season isn't discouraging the don't vote contingent anywhere. There are many reasons given, but it's all about the media atmosphere, which has been cultivated from all sides with millions spent every month.
Our vote is being pooped on while the Teabaggers will be there to vote. At least they believe in voting for themselves, and work daily to deny us a vote. So who's dumber?
Their vote suppression work proves just how very powerful our vote is. For that reason alone, even if one does not care about those who died to get us the vote, I think people should make the effort to vote against suppression and oppression by the purveyors of Jim Crow and feudalism.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025646840#post102
Saw another thread dripping with venom toward Obama, calling supporters names. That's all there was Sunday morning. Some stories are over a year old, well honed hatred. It masquerades as passion, but one wonders when words that mention peace and justice, come from those that have hate in their hearts and are unfair.
The technique is using Warren and Sanders in classic Segretti style, when one is a Democrat and the other caucuses with Democrats. Their statements are taken out of context. But I don't even fault Warren for this interview. It was like the one she was on with Todd on MTP, trying to blame Obama. She dodged and weaved the accusations, just as she mainly did with this one. She has a message to get out.
It is not 'Vote for ME!' or 'Obama the Traitor!', it is what the big money is doing to us all, including blocking the POTUS. The vitriol is at an all time high. The primaries are over. Yet the anti-Dem hate is full blast, the distortions are OTT because this is going to be a bigger election than 2010 was, and it worked then, too.
I feel bad for those who have become influenced by the toxicity is from well coordinated media attacks designed to get people to take the Koch brothers' cause as their own, not in words, but in results. Koch brothers money is effective. But no one will admit they might be wrong. Nothing new.
And yes, the Koch's put in Scott Brown, then ran him against Warren, and now is funding him in another state. And they want EW out of office there in MA. One less Senator to fight what they intend to do, to destroy the legacy she has fought for:
A GOP Senate's First Target - Elizabeth Warrens Consumer Protection Agency
For years, House Republicans have been trying to gut her greatest accomplishment.
By Erika Eichelberger - Sep. 26, 2014
If the GOP wins the Senate, they'll no doubt use the opportunity to push through a range of measures that are kryptonite to Democratic votersnew abortion restrictions, limits on the ability of the Environmental Protection Agency to combat climate change, a relaxation of the rules reining in Wall Street's worst excesses...
Yet people blame Obama.
The bureau's job is to make sure Americans aren't getting screwed by mortgage lenders, credit card companies, debt collectors, and other financial institutions. It's the first federal agency designed specifically to protect everyday consumers from financial wrongdoing, and Republicans have done everything in their power to hobble the agencyincluding fighting the confirmation of its director, Richard Cordray. Winning the Senate in November could be their best chance to roll back Warren's greatest accomplishment...
Half of their work is already done. The House has passed a bill that would limit the bureau's power by replacing its director with a five-member panel, and subjecting its budget to the congressional appropriations processmeaning that hostile lawmakers could starve it to death. (Unlike most federal agencies, the bureau is bankrolled by the Federal Reserve, an effort to free it from the whims of partisan politics.) House Republicans have also introduced legislation to let other financial regulators overturn CFPB rules, to eliminate a fund the bureau uses to compensate consumers who've been defrauded by an institution that's gone belly-up, and to restrict the kind of data the bureau may collect from consumers. (Republicans have charged that the CFPB's collection of credit data is a violation of privacy, even though the bureau does not collect any personal details the consumer doesn't volunteer.)
Yet people hate the Federal Reserve, and want to effect a Ron Paul and Libertarian plan to eliminate it. A lot more on what they'll do to destroy Warren's work if Democrats buy the Segretti technique:
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/republican-senate-would-gut-elizabeth-warren-consumer-protection-bureau
This is so glaringly obvious, and affects so many, it's impossible to discuss of the RL online.
I posted what 1SBM said, along with others here:
"Electing more Democrats... accomplishes nothing good." Glenn Greenwald.
That's right--Glenn, who has worked for the Kochs, and apparently does not want people like Elizabeth Warren to be elected, said this....
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/15/1262880/-Glenn-Greenwald-advocates-letting-Republicans-destroy-the-country#
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025642630#post5
Your perfect reply:
All part of the plan ...
Posted earlier:
And "Mission Accomplished" ...
could be heard whispered throughout the land. (It seems)
GOP: "Government doesn't work" ... Check!
Libertarians (right and left): "Government is evil" ... Check!
Tea Party: "Government doesn't work and there is no difference between establishment republicans and establishment Democrats" ... Check!
"Liberals/Progressives": "Government is evil and there is no difference between establishment republicans and establishment Democrats" ... Check!
The media has played this narrative on a 7-day, 24-hour loop.
Result: Only 15% of the American people pay close attention to the only mechanism for change.
Nicely played, Oligarchs!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025642630#post14
That piece and the posts objecting to it on KOS, deserve a full read. The post was objected to on the basis of personality and not the political issue and real life effects, which would lead to some honest and intelligent discussion. I posted the poll from the KOS link:
Poll results on question:

http://www.dailykos.com/poll/1708001/vote
29% wanna stand by and watch government, and many of us, burn.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025642630#post24
An excellent reply to me:
I voted 'No." But now it's up to 27.6%. WTF.
People are wrongwrongwrong.There will be NO revolution.
They will turn this country into a big version of current tax havens -- plantation life for the rich with an archipelago of little Dubai's -- namely, entertainments, tours, two-leveled transportation, infrastructure, and service/servants quarters. No schools or medical care except for the rich.
How could our own sell us out?!! Goddammit!!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025642630#post47
None of us object to saying what we think on what's essential. I read the 'don't vote, will not vote for various causes or to have a revolution, etc.' posts every day.
The fact that we are past the primary season isn't discouraging the don't vote contingent anywhere. There are many reasons given, but it's all about the media atmosphere, which has been cultivated from all sides with millions spent every month.
Our vote is being pooped on while the Teabaggers will be there to vote. At least they believe in voting for themselves, and work daily to deny us a vote. So who's dumber?
Their vote suppression work proves just how very powerful our vote is. For that reason alone, even if one does not care about those who died to get us the vote, I think people should make the effort to vote against suppression and oppression by the purveyors of Jim Crow and feudalism.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025646840#post102
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A President, I am told, can hire all kinds of people who then concentrate on individual issues
djean111
Oct 2014
#1
I think if she's president, then more progressive have a shot at her seat AND her cabinet!
cascadiance
Oct 2014
#14
I know that special elections are a problem sometimes, even in a blue state like Massachusetts
cascadiance
Oct 2014
#43
OMG! Did you see how these 2 reacted when they heard that krebscycle was pissed?
Major Hogwash
Oct 2014
#36
It's easy to complain. The view is very different looking out from the White House.
branford
Oct 2014
#33
Where you wrote "A hit and a miss..." did you mean to say "A swing and a miss..." ? nt
Electric Monk
Oct 2014
#19
Elizabeth Warren: 'The President was the one who refused to throw CFPB under the bus'
Cha
Oct 2014
#22
"The one thing the Obama administration didn't do was pillory banks and financial institutions
rhett o rick
Oct 2014
#29
I'm familiar with her background, but she's done so little, well below her potential......
George II
Oct 2014
#45