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marym625

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66. I am curious as to your thoughts now.

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 08:16 AM

Oct 2014

We now know that VonDerrit Myers had no hoodie on or with him when in the store. We know he was in the store buying the sandwich 6 minutes before being shot. We have witness testimony saying that the officer in question was not in a police uniform but a black security guard uniform. We still have the testimony from witnesses that stated, immediately after shooting Myers, the officer threatened everyone around. And we have witness testimony that Myers last words were, "why are you shooting me?" And begging for his life.

I know that we don't know if what the witnesses are saying is true, just like we don't know what the officer says is true. But we do know that Chief Dotson lies.

Now we know why we don't have GRT test results.

“Everything I’ve seen so far comports with what the officer said happened,” Dr. Graham said.

His department didn't swab the teen’s hand to test for gunshot residue because that is an often inaccurate test, Dr. Graham said. The final report on the autopsy won't be released until it can include results from toxicology tests, which can take weeks, he said.

http://m.wsj.com/articles/demonstrations-planned-over-police-shootings-in-st-louis-ferguson-1412969680?mobile=y

I am now in touch with the person who talked about hosing down the scene. Hopefully I will have an answer as to the time today.

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I have some questions about the Shaw shooting [View all] marym625 Oct 2014 OP

K&R because i wonder these things myself. logosoco Oct 2014 #1

My aunt owned a security company marym625 Oct 2014 #3

I have heard of Cabrini Green, not as familair with the Gold Coast (I assume it is along the lake?) logosoco Oct 2014 #5

I would guess it depends on the laws of the municipality marym625 Oct 2014 #7

That is interesting family history! logosoco Oct 2014 #9

Regardless of what they were doing marym625 Oct 2014 #10

My dh's sister & family YarnAddict Oct 2014 #21

Chicago EVERYWHERE has crime marym625 Oct 2014 #23

All big cities have crime everywhere, but where the price goes up, the crime goes down. whathehell Oct 2014 #79

That's a true statement marym625 Oct 2014 #80

Howdy neighbor! whathehell Oct 2014 #81

Even with the street crowed marym625 Oct 2014 #82

I hadn't heard of that.. whathehell Oct 2014 #86

I HATE Chicago winters marym625 Oct 2014 #88

I feel the same! whathehell Oct 2014 #106

the whole rest of the country is warmer than usual marym625 Oct 2014 #110

Is their crime in the Loop? Stellar Oct 2014 #98

Uhm, what? marym625 Oct 2014 #101

The Gold Coast is now one of the Wealthiest areas of the City -- Oprah lives there. whathehell Oct 2014 #77

My understanding is the victim wasn't under house arrest just limited movement... he could go uponit7771 Oct 2014 #15

Yeah you're right, I did use the incorrect term. logosoco Oct 2014 #17

RIGHT!! They're not explaining WHY the kid needed to be stopped uponit7771 Oct 2014 #18

The opening scene of this story madashelltoo Oct 2014 #2

Hadn't thought of that. marym625 Oct 2014 #4

Hey, once you've got a story that's been tested with a jury, Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #26

Good point! marym625 Oct 2014 #41

Yo, Mary. Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #42

awe! marym625 Oct 2014 #43

Far from unimaginable, sadly. nomorenomore08 Oct 2014 #100

Has the police officer who gunned down Myers been named or identified? Or is the KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #6

Honestly, I'm not sure marym625 Oct 2014 #8

I'm with you (although I do not recall hearing any officer's name mentioned on KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #11

I tried so hard to go marym625 Oct 2014 #12

One of my Socialist comrades from Chicago is making the trip there this weekend to KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #24

Absolutely amazing, the bravery these people have marym625 Oct 2014 #27

Not sure. We're limiting electronic discussion of tactics and logistics to a bare KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #28

Yes, big brother is big on this one marym625 Oct 2014 #31

Here's testiment to the bravery marym625 Oct 2014 #35

starts with an m notadmblnd Oct 2014 #61

You read it too I assume? marym625 Oct 2014 #63

what caused this supposed "pedestrian check" - They were black, and in Missouri... nough said uponit7771 Oct 2014 #13

Yep marym625 Oct 2014 #14

That's my understanding even in stop and frisk new york, the police HAVE to suspect SOMETHING... uponit7771 Oct 2014 #16

I just can't understand marym625 Oct 2014 #19

I think some of these cops are like the German gas machine man, they all "get used to it"... I don't uponit7771 Oct 2014 #20

Probably marym625 Oct 2014 #22

That's a fantastic video/rap song. FarPoint Oct 2014 #56

Not new marym625 Oct 2014 #59

Thing is, nearly *anything* can be determined suspicious by cops Cal Carpenter Oct 2014 #30

Thank you marym625 Oct 2014 #32

You're welcome! Any excuse to plug that book. Cal Carpenter Oct 2014 #44

quite an endorsement! marym625 Oct 2014 #45

I don't know the area sarisataka Oct 2014 #25

Thank you for that information marym625 Oct 2014 #29

Most of the time such a change sarisataka Oct 2014 #36

Exactly marym625 Oct 2014 #37

Ooo rah sarisataka Oct 2014 #39

Yeah after they magically switched the type of gun, I wondered some of those questions. Rex Oct 2014 #33

My thoughts exactly. eom marym625 Oct 2014 #34

Well, he was videoed buying a sandwich. panader0 Oct 2014 #38

Seriously, you just said it all right there! Rex Oct 2014 #40

Chances are he ate it , it's was 10 minutes after when first contact was made scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #47

25 minutes if the time stamp on the video Crabby Appleton Oct 2014 #53

Some police officers are corrupt but scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #46

I agree it is a possibility marym625 Oct 2014 #48

When I was posting in the thread that early morning or late at night ( 2am or 3 am) scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #49

True marym625 Oct 2014 #50

doubling back isn't really odd when being chased scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #52

But in 10 minutes? marym625 Oct 2014 #55

There's no reason to admit you're wrong scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #58

sure do. and Missouri is sure leading the pack. marym625 Oct 2014 #60

damn. marym625 Oct 2014 #51

If they did it within an hour or two even three right after the shooting I will change my opinion scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #54

I will let you know as soon as I know marym625 Oct 2014 #57

I am curious as to your thoughts now. marym625 Oct 2014 #66

Well scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #67

On the GSR test marym625 Oct 2014 #68

It's policy that they cuff scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #69

Yes, but he said more than that marym625 Oct 2014 #71

You think it was someone else who fired at the officer , that's a very interesting theory scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #73

Sorry on the delay marym625 Oct 2014 #74

No it really can't scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #75

I am going to have to ask a gun person marym625 Oct 2014 #76

Trayvon they tested his clothing to see the distance scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #78

Yes, I understand that part marym625 Oct 2014 #84

OK, now you are just testing me... sarisataka Oct 2014 #83

BUT.... marym625 Oct 2014 #85

Since Mr Myers had pending weapon charges sarisataka Oct 2014 #87

EXACTLY! marym625 Oct 2014 #89

To be honest sarisataka Oct 2014 #90

and add "cop pulled off the hoodie" marym625 Oct 2014 #91

I just saw this marym625 Oct 2014 #115

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2014 #92

Please see my post #107. Feral Child Oct 2014 #109

Did you see this? marym625 Oct 2014 #65

Sorry Feral Child Oct 2014 #105

Hide out/backup gun Feral Child Oct 2014 #107

I have heard that many times marym625 Oct 2014 #111

And how did he manage to get the GSR on Myers' hands? Travelman Oct 2014 #112

My mother Feral Child Oct 2014 #114

I'll try to be as thorough as I can Travelman Oct 2014 #62

Very well thought out marym625 Oct 2014 #64

The car was unmarked, the "why did he suspect them question" is still open... like Ferguson... uponit7771 Oct 2014 #95

Where is the documentation of that? Travelman Oct 2014 #96

The officer was off duty, I'll verify the car being unmarked... to my point... "strange" .. uponit7771 Oct 2014 #97

There is absolutely nothing improper with working a second job in uniform Travelman Oct 2014 #99

Where are the two that were with him? damnedifIknow Oct 2014 #70

They stated immediately that he just had a sandwhich. n/t marym625 Oct 2014 #72

No GSR test and the two with him claiming he had a sandwich = coverup imho uponit7771 Oct 2014 #93

Forensic evidence shows teen shot at St. Louis officer, police say Crabby Appleton Oct 2014 #94

Guess that's it scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #104

there's only one solution... TheVisitor Oct 2014 #102

When did they move St.Lous to Illinois? KinMd Oct 2014 #103

hahaha TheVisitor Oct 2014 #113

Illinois? marym625 Oct 2014 #108