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aikoaiko

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3. It can be tested in every claim of SYG in a hearing before a judge.

Sun Apr 15, 2012, 10:04 AM

Apr 2012

It depends on the will of the prosecutor.

And there is no mention of feelings or fear in FL's SYG law. The person must demonstrate a "reasonable belief" of grave threat or the facts must be so obvious.

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If Zimmerman prevails in the SYG hearing the Martin family can't sue. [View all] dkf Apr 2012 OP

So screwed up. jp11 Apr 2012 #1

Or it's imperative to be completely non confrontational. dkf Apr 2012 #2

You think that Trayvon was being confrontational? hlthe2b Apr 2012 #4

I have no idea. dkf Apr 2012 #5

It can be tested in every claim of SYG in a hearing before a judge. aikoaiko Apr 2012 #3

What makes you think it is not tested? ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #7

It seems to take that idea and put it in the hands of one person the jp11 Apr 2012 #53

It is more an anti tort lawyer part of FL law ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #6

"dead perp" alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #9

That is the classic requirement for a justifiable homicide ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #10

Blah blah blah alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #17

More examples of your intellectual excellence ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #18

Whatevs, "Professor" alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #24

You should have just kicked Herr Professor in the balls. Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #30

Professor bongbong Apr 2012 #33

He seemed to just be explaining what the law says customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #35

He misread the law. anti-alec Apr 2012 #38

It remains to be seen customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #40

You called Martin a dead perp. anti-alec Apr 2012 #37

I believe you should be addressing this post to somebody else alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #39

I did not address Martin in the least ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #47

...as it pertains and relates to this case. morningfog Apr 2012 #50

A generic comment on how the law works ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #52

Spell checker and the bright Socal sun strike again ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #49

Uh huh alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #51

The term Mr. Scumbag was used when I took CC classes NutmegYankee Apr 2012 #28

"Dead Perp"?? WTF??!! zorahopkins Apr 2012 #46

I did not, but don't let that stop your poutrage ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #48

Judges Look To Legislative Intent, Especially Appellate Justices DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2012 #8

True. ewagner Apr 2012 #14

From what I can tell Zimmerman has no real assets anyway. former9thward Apr 2012 #11

They can still sue the HOA. HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #12

Or can they if he sticks to the latest story of his that rainbow4321 Apr 2012 #13

I dont think it matters. HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #15

I would expect the HOA insurance company to settle for a token amount ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #20

Maybe. May not be covered though. HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #21

Yeah well your declarative predictions on legal matters don't have much of a track record, IMO. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2012 #42

This is so wrong. MoonRiver Apr 2012 #16

I am not sure FL is on the side of maniacs ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #19

As I read SYG, it requires prosecution to prove GZ wasnt in imminant danger of bodily harm or death. HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #22

So, providing proof that someone is guilty of a crime is a problem? Guilty until proven innocent. OneTenthofOnePercent Apr 2012 #25

Generally, Sir, A Claim Of Self-Defense At Trial is An Affirmative Defense The Magistrate Apr 2012 #31

Burden of proof is always on the prosecution in a criminal trial alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #26

not necessarily magical thyme Apr 2012 #34

Many states have civil immunity self-defense laws in effect. OneTenthofOnePercent Apr 2012 #23

Good point. dkf Apr 2012 #27

Fingers crossed? Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #29

Just surprised is all. dkf Apr 2012 #32

Even if the Martin family got a judgment against Zimmerman customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #36

SYG law doesn't apply to Zimmerman anti-alec Apr 2012 #41

Again customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #43

Zimmerman already doomed himself anti-alec Apr 2012 #44

I don't think there was a cause for arrest customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #45