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CTyankee

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35. Scalia's argument is monumentally stupid, IMO. To argue, in effect, that you somehow have
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 10:12 AM
Apr 2012

a better shot at securing rights when they aren't written into the Constitution just doesn't make sense. Any constitutional rights can be trampled upon if not strongly defended through the political system. Aryeh Neier, my boss at the ACLU, has observed that the Wiemar Republic did not fail because it granted too many rights (a fashionable argument in some quarters back in the 70s), but because those rights were not enforced through the rule of law.

I see the effects of Bush v. Gore and Citizens United as major threats to our constitutional democracy. If your vote essentially doesn't count and elections are simple bought and sold to the highest bidder, it probably doesn't matter what the Constitution says. However, that is no reason to not have a Constitution that can build on the rights of the people, rather than whittling down what we do have, because we somehow give legitimacy to the notion that every decision about Constitutional rights must be decided in light of the era in which it was written.

You might want to do what I did and read some of the Constitutions of other countries mentioned in the NYT piece. I read the one from South Africa and will study the Canadian next. It would be my pleasure to discuss them with you. But if not, it does at least get one to thinking about the possibilities.

Again, my question is WHY the democracies mentioned in the NYT were deciding NOT to model their constitutions on ours. They must have had their reasons...

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I couldn't agree more The Blue Flower Apr 2012 #1
...... ingac70 Apr 2012 #2
The ERA Would Not Even Get Through Congress Today AndyTiedye Apr 2012 #3
That's the point.... (nt) jeff47 Apr 2012 #5
politically it would seem like a winner Johonny Apr 2012 #4
Done bradberger29 Apr 2012 #6
rec. KG Apr 2012 #7
What would be the practical effect of passage? Jim Lane Apr 2012 #8
Scott Walker signed the repeal of the Wisconsin Equal Pay enforcement act just last week. dflprincess Apr 2012 #10
I disagree, on two counts Jim Lane Apr 2012 #11
How About... It's The Correct Thing To Do... AND... It's Fucking About Time... WillyT Apr 2012 #20
No, I would NOT leave women out of the Constitution Jim Lane Apr 2012 #26
sorry to say, this is a typical American response: GIVE UP. CTyankee Apr 2012 #18
You're mischaracterizing my position Jim Lane Apr 2012 #25
After experiencing the ERA defeat in the late 70s, I must say that I became pretty cynical. CTyankee Apr 2012 #30
The defeat of the ERA wasn't as complete as it might have been Jim Lane Apr 2012 #31
Yes, I was politically active in that ERA fight back in the late 70s. I was working in D.C. at CTyankee Apr 2012 #32
Thanks for the interesting article Jim Lane Apr 2012 #33
Scalia's argument is monumentally stupid, IMO. To argue, in effect, that you somehow have CTyankee Apr 2012 #35
Kick !!! WillyT Apr 2012 #9
Yes. HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #12
3 more states... loyalsister Apr 2012 #13
Wouldn't We Have To Start All Over Again ??? WillyT Apr 2012 #14
Maybe not. There is a movement afoot to start where we left off...with 3 more states to go! CTyankee Apr 2012 #19
Not necessarily loyalsister Apr 2012 #21
Thank You For That !!! WillyT Apr 2012 #22
Difficulties with the three-state strategy Jim Lane Apr 2012 #27
Another great idea from WillyT. Zorra Apr 2012 #15
:) WillyT Apr 2012 #16
And Another Thing... The Current Democrats Are Too Stupid/Afraid To See This As An Advantage... WillyT Apr 2012 #17
Not bad. I like. slampoet Apr 2012 #23
Not yet. Wait until the repubicans are trying to patch things up with women, then spring it on them JVS Apr 2012 #24
I asked myself this same thing just the other day. Ship of Fools Apr 2012 #28
It would never make it through. HappyMe Apr 2012 #29
Why yes it is the perfect time! k&r Little Star Apr 2012 #34
I am actually predicting that this will happen soon. BlueIris Apr 2012 #36
Done! loyalsister Apr 2012 #37
Thank You For That !!! WillyT Apr 2012 #38
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