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brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
13. Not quite
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 02:25 PM
Oct 2014


http://casinogambling.about.com/od/slots/a/percentage.htm

Most slot players have seen the advertisements or billboards proclaiming that the XYZ casino has the loosest slots in town. These ads may even say that the machines have a 98 percent payback percentage. In the casino you may see a sign reading that machines in a certain carousel have a guaranteed return of 99 percent. While all these claims may be truthful, they can be deceptive to the average player.

Payback is the overall percentage that a machine will return to the player in the long run. These figures are programmed into the machines computer chip and are set by the manufacturer to the specifications that the casino wishes to use for that machine. This may be anywhere from 75 to 99 percent. Some states regulate the minimum payback that a machine can return.

Many players believe they will win more on a machine that pays out 99 percent compared to a machine that pays out 94 percent but this is not necessarily true. The payback percentage is the profit that the casinos can expect to earn over the lifetime of the machine. The average player will never play long enough to see the overall return. Just because a machine has a payback of 99 percent that does not mean you will win back $98 for every $100 you play through the machine.

You might play $100 through a slot machine with a 94 percent payback and win $5,000 and then sit down and play $100 through a machine with a 99 percent return and lose it all in a few hours. There is no way of gauging the overall return if you only play a machine for a few hours or even a few days a year. The casinos can do have a way of checking the long term payback because they have access to the coin meters in the machines.

All of the slot machines have meters that record every coin put in and every coin paid out. In the new coinless with machines with bill receptors they would count the “credits” played through the machine. It all works out the same. If you receive a hand paid jackpot these meter reading are recorded on the pay voucher that the attendant takes to the cage when they get your money. Most casinos now have automated computerized systems that track all of this information from the machines into a central database. They (the casino) can look in any machine and determine the payback for any given period of time but you as the player will never be privy to this information.

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the RULES OF POKER? ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2014 #1
It's not gambling if you are guaranteed a win everytime. dilby Oct 2014 #2
The machines are programmed to favor the house brentspeak Oct 2014 #3
Should do, and do do. Donald Ian Rankin Oct 2014 #4
They do. They are required by law to state the avg. percent returned. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #5
Not quite brentspeak Oct 2014 #13
Duh. They won't tell you at the machine level. Did you expect that? nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #15
Are you really that dense? brentspeak Oct 2014 #19
Its not misleading at all Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #28
I'm sorry -- where did you come from? brentspeak Oct 2014 #33
Excuse me sir, there is a problem with this machine. I'm winning money on it. DesMoinesDem Oct 2014 #6
that is exactly the stupidity of gambling- along with that you give that money belzabubba333 Oct 2014 #8
Yup - nonsense. closeupready Oct 2014 #11
Would you disclose ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #16
"You Spot Another Man's Tell . . ." ProfessorGAC Oct 2014 #20
I know ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #24
He did. Dr. Strange Oct 2014 #18
Gangsters have higher ethics than casinos gratuitous Oct 2014 #7
And that justified a SWAT style raid? NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #9
He's actually lucky to escape this adventure with his balls intact Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #29
This would make an awesome movie KamaAina Oct 2014 #10
Oceans 1 KurtNYC Oct 2014 #22
Sounds like the guys need to sue the casinos. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #12
I don't think it's possible to live long enough to sue a casino. nt valerief Oct 2014 #17
Most accurate statement in this whole thread. Lochloosa Oct 2014 #25
How?? Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #31
Sounds like Kane came out ahead Adsos Letter Oct 2014 #14
Electronic voting machine flaws and voter supression schemes rarely get this kind of attention. hunter Oct 2014 #21
I see nothing wrong with what they did Politicalboi Oct 2014 #23
It is more like adding to your bet after the cards are dealt in blackjack Johonny Oct 2014 #27
It seems like if anyone should be liable for this it would be the maker of the machines. Threedifferentones Oct 2014 #26
I love the closing paragraph Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #30
This reminds me of the "Press Your Luck" game show scandal. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2014 #32
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