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whereisjustice

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28. why wait until there are more deaths before modifying the procedures to protect health care

Tue Oct 14, 2014, 03:54 AM

Oct 2014

workers from this disease? Should we take that chance in an effort to protect the perceived reputation of the CDC?

The origin of this vector could have happened anywhere. And it may show up somewhere else. The measure of CDC is how well the response is handled after infection first detected within the US.

As far as credit, American health care system is the most inefficient in the modern world measured by dollars input versus patient outcome. The CDC is our health care authority. If we were once exceptional, I don't think we are exceptional anymore.

At some point the science and mathematics exposes political gamesmanship. That is something we see with global warming. At that point it is foolish to proceed down the political path rather than solve the core problem. For example, should we assume EPA deserves credit because some areas of the country are slightly cooler than usual?

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CNN actually did some real journalism on ebola and public health policy [View all] whereisjustice Oct 2014 OP

Yes, it's all the CDC's fault, that a hospital in Texas... SidDithers Oct 2014 #1

Presbyterian does not have even a Level IV Trauma Center. Downwinder Oct 2014 #2

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And you can guarantee that the protocol was followed perfectly... SidDithers Oct 2014 #4

perhaps you can come down from canada and monitor them and make sure they are behaving... whereisjustice Oct 2014 #8

Canada, particularly Toronto, will be prepared if we do get a patient... SidDithers Oct 2014 #12

lol - when we need help from canada, you'll be the last one we call, given your history whereisjustice Oct 2014 #14

... SidDithers Oct 2014 #16

I think most Canadians don't believe in zombies or live in igloos. whereisjustice Oct 2014 #17

Even if we hadn't had that second Ebola case, that article offers some excellent suggestions. pnwmom Oct 2014 #23

I have a sneaking suspicion most that TEXAS hospital staff kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #6

profit comes first, administrators freely admit this, however, people in health care generally whereisjustice Oct 2014 #11

There's more than the scent of a straw man in your post. pnwmom Oct 2014 #22

I've noticed the word "breach" being interpreted as "violation" Midnight Writer Oct 2014 #5

Yep. Where are the folks hollering about PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY now, kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #7

Exactly right. Recall Reagan's response to AIDS Midnight Writer Oct 2014 #15

I agree, but we have to be sure before we expose health care workers to infectious disease whereisjustice Oct 2014 #18

The CDC did not say there was a "violation" of protocol Midnight Writer Oct 2014 #19

The exact quote is here. And it was irresponsible. whereisjustice Oct 2014 #20

Yes, I stand corrected Midnight Writer Oct 2014 #27

As a doctor he blew it. I would argue if he had stuck to the medicine and whereisjustice Oct 2014 #30

And states' rights - Texas is huge on states' rights, so they have kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #9

no, a breach in the protocol means someone didn't do what they should have done TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #21

Thanks for this. Seriously. You are 100% correct. This is a horrible disease, whereisjustice Oct 2014 #25

And the hospital had 70 people treating Mr. Duncan. LisaL Oct 2014 #32

that asshole needs to lose his job TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #37

what the F*ck is it with DU'ers trashing the CDC. It's like a wingnut infestation has taken over. KittyWampus Oct 2014 #10

do you have something of value to add to this thread? The Dr. who wrote this list of 5 critical whereisjustice Oct 2014 #13

Constructive criticism is not the same as "trashing the CDC." pnwmom Oct 2014 #24

It does make you wonder if certain people in the media actually give a shit....... AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #26

why wait until there are more deaths before modifying the procedures to protect health care whereisjustice Oct 2014 #28

The "call a doctor" advice sounds like it was given by someone with privilege Fumesucker Oct 2014 #29

Can't leave it up to Hospital CEO's riverwalker Oct 2014 #31

All that's well and good.......BUT BooScout Oct 2014 #33

I agree. Hospital in Spain was not a biosafety level 4 hospital either. LisaL Oct 2014 #34

Dallas prosecutor threatening to arrest Thomas Duncan??? Little Star Oct 2014 #35

NPR had a story about a nurses' union demanding some more protections adigal Oct 2014 #36