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Are_grits_groceries

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Tue Oct 14, 2014, 05:06 AM Oct 2014

Leon Panetta needs to rethink what he is doing to put it mildly. [View all]

Leon Panetta was Secretary of Defense as late as 2013. The people he put in place at the DOD and the CIA are probably still in place. Policies that he supported are also probably being enacted and his influence can still be felt in those institutions.

For him to come out NOW and criticize President Obama is not right nor helpful. If he had a principled disagreement with the President, he should have spoken up then. If he did and it was not heeded, his actions now smack of someone who wants to push his agenda in public now. The fact that another path was taken than he deems correct now indicates other voices were also heard.

If he did support policies that were and are being enacted then this is a very late conversion to a different view. He is and has been very close to the Clintons. Whether they are or not, his actions smack of a political move to bolster a possible Hillary candidacy by creating more room from President Obama's actions in order to help her continue to separate herself from his policies.

In addition, he was and he may still be privy to top secret information. He may not be giving specifics, but his statements have to be informed by some of what he has heard. His interpretation of it is colored by his beliefs.

Panetta is not the end all and be all of defense policy, security policy, or any other policy. He is being by the media treated as the one true source of the truth. This is dangerous and does not present any other opinions or courses of action.

The situation in the Middle East is a Gordian hot mess. Anything we do will have unforeseen consequences that may backfire on us. Trying to get rid of ISIS is fraught with danger in many ways. This factor does not obviate the need to take some action but those who act as if there is an easy solution are fooling themselves and others.

Panetta and others are in a different position than most. They have a special position by virtue of the offices they held. They need to think carefully about the ramifications of their statements. Their pronouncements made as fact are misleading and do not present a balanced view.

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But but but malaise Oct 2014 #1
I loathe people like Panetta. Are_grits_groceries Oct 2014 #2
Same here malaise Oct 2014 #3
Just a tad suspicious. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #8
Gee I wonder. TBF Oct 2014 #13
I wouldn't be surprised and how the story could work is obvious karynnj Oct 2014 #24
because he wants to be part of when the "old gang" is back together again. nt Javaman Oct 2014 #18
+1 riversedge Oct 2014 #5
I'd be shocked if Panetta hasn't thought through the ramifications of what he's saying Fumesucker Oct 2014 #4
Could HRC be dangling the possibility of a cabinet appointment before him? Divernan Oct 2014 #6
He's already been there and done that. Doesn't make sense. MADem Oct 2014 #16
This might answer your question Fumesucker Oct 2014 #21
Well, whoop, there it is!!! nt MADem Oct 2014 #29
Could it be that he believes in some version of the neocon ideas? karynnj Oct 2014 #25
I can't speak for him at all, certainly not based on an encounter going back two-plus decades. MADem Oct 2014 #27
Yep - it was the centerfold that the Republicans entrusted their message to on Saturday karynnj Oct 2014 #30
His latest ad is a spelling bee, by those Crossroads jerks. MADem Oct 2014 #31
or VP... Clinton/Panetta 2015 is what he's hoping for. n/t JaneQPublic Oct 2014 #17
That would never happen. former9thward Oct 2014 #20
I think he's too old. Really. MADem Oct 2014 #28
I'm sure he has. Are_grits_groceries Oct 2014 #7
Well, he can't rethink it now.... ReRe Oct 2014 #15
So the President hired a Clinton Pod Person MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #9
and to think that there are still others roaming the halls Supersedeas Oct 2014 #19
Sadly, the reality is that you need to rethink your understanding of how things work. eomer Oct 2014 #10
Oh please. Are_grits_groceries Oct 2014 #11
OK,thanks for clarifying. eomer Oct 2014 #12
Panetta needs to go leap in a garbage dumpster davidpdx Oct 2014 #14
Pretty much. What's really sad is that Obama treated him well--it's not like Obama TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #23
Panetta had no influence on defense policy. He was a semi-retired figurehead. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #22
True, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2014 #32
the almighty dollar spanone Oct 2014 #26
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