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karynnj

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25. Could it be that he believes in some version of the neocon ideas?

Reply to MADem (Reply #16)

Tue Oct 14, 2014, 11:57 AM

Oct 2014

In some way, the root idea - that the US could change the culture and politics of an entire region to be more like us - is probably the same as the US view of itself as exceptional and as a problem solver, extraordinaire.

He might have big problems with the Obama plan that ultimately seems to rest on the countries in the area rooting out extremism and INDEPENDENTLY learning that living in peace with each other is to their benefit. (The Republican message - somewhat incoherently delivered by your former Senator on Saturday - spoke of what the world looks like without US leadership. This relies on a US axiom that we CAN run the world, controlling events everywhere - ignoring that even their hero Reagan failed to do so.)

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Leon Panetta needs to rethink what he is doing to put it mildly. [View all] Are_grits_groceries Oct 2014 OP

But but but malaise Oct 2014 #1

I loathe people like Panetta. Are_grits_groceries Oct 2014 #2

Same here malaise Oct 2014 #3

Just a tad suspicious. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #8

Gee I wonder. TBF Oct 2014 #13

I wouldn't be surprised and how the story could work is obvious karynnj Oct 2014 #24

because he wants to be part of when the "old gang" is back together again. nt Javaman Oct 2014 #18

+1 riversedge Oct 2014 #5

I'd be shocked if Panetta hasn't thought through the ramifications of what he's saying Fumesucker Oct 2014 #4

Could HRC be dangling the possibility of a cabinet appointment before him? Divernan Oct 2014 #6

He's already been there and done that. Doesn't make sense. MADem Oct 2014 #16

This might answer your question Fumesucker Oct 2014 #21

Well, whoop, there it is!!! nt MADem Oct 2014 #29

Could it be that he believes in some version of the neocon ideas? karynnj Oct 2014 #25

I can't speak for him at all, certainly not based on an encounter going back two-plus decades. MADem Oct 2014 #27

Yep - it was the centerfold that the Republicans entrusted their message to on Saturday karynnj Oct 2014 #30

His latest ad is a spelling bee, by those Crossroads jerks. MADem Oct 2014 #31

or VP... Clinton/Panetta 2015 is what he's hoping for. n/t JaneQPublic Oct 2014 #17

That would never happen. former9thward Oct 2014 #20

I think he's too old. Really. MADem Oct 2014 #28

I'm sure he has. Are_grits_groceries Oct 2014 #7

Well, he can't rethink it now.... ReRe Oct 2014 #15

So the President hired a Clinton Pod Person MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #9

and to think that there are still others roaming the halls Supersedeas Oct 2014 #19

Sadly, the reality is that you need to rethink your understanding of how things work. eomer Oct 2014 #10

Oh please. Are_grits_groceries Oct 2014 #11

OK,thanks for clarifying. eomer Oct 2014 #12

Panetta needs to go leap in a garbage dumpster davidpdx Oct 2014 #14

Pretty much. What's really sad is that Obama treated him well--it's not like Obama TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #23

Panetta had no influence on defense policy. He was a semi-retired figurehead. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #22

True, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2014 #32

the almighty dollar spanone Oct 2014 #26