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Zorra

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22. Yeh. Just as the fracking drug war is not the answer to the problem of destructive drug usage.
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 12:49 PM
Apr 2012

Last edited Sun Apr 15, 2012, 02:50 PM - Edit history (2)

The drug war is primarily about protecting the 1% and their economic interests.

The 1% needs an excuse to have to present to taxpayers for having the government employ massive numbers of law enforcement personnel to protect them (the 1%) and their economic interests.

(Note: I don't use illegal drugs, and do not promote the use of illegal drugs. I have, however, used some illegal drugs in the distant past)

If there was no drug war, the number of cops of all stripes employed to "protect society" could probably be cut by at least 50%.

Approximate number of people incarcerated for drug related crimes:

108,000 people in federal prisons as of April 2010
280,000 people in state prisons across the country as of June 2007
31,500 people in California state prisons as of December 2008

Let's expand a bit by putting it into perspective, and that means understanding how many total people are incarcerated for all crimes:

211,455 inmates at federal prisons as of April 2010
1,395,916 inmates in state prisons as of June 2007
171,161 inmates in California as of December 2008

http://open.salon.com/blog/stephannie/2010/05/16/how_many_people_are_incarcerated_for_drug_related_offenses

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm


About 50% of federal prison inmates, and 20% of state prison inmates nationwide are in prison due to drug related crimes, and those may be low estimates due to the fact that many inmates are probably in prison because of collateral effects related to drug use that are not available to statistics gatherers.

And many of these inmates are incarcerated for offenses related to the deadly drug (sarcasm) marijuana:

Thursday, 12 October 2006

Washington, DC: Nearly one in eight drug prisoners in America are behind bars for marijuana-related offenses, according to data released this week by the US Department of Justice, Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS).

The BJS study, "Drug Use and Dependence, State and Federal Prisoners, 2004," reports that 12.7 percent of state inmates and 12.4 percent of federal inmates incarcerated for drug violations are serving time for marijuana offenses. Combining these percentages with separate US Department of Justice (DOJ) statistics on the total number of state and federal drug prisoners (BJS October 2005 Bulletin: "Prisoners in 2004" -- NCJ 210677) suggests that there are now approximately 33,655 state inmates and 10,785 federal inmates incarcerated for marijuana offenses.

http://norml.org/news/2006/10/12/nearly-one-in-eight-us-drug-prisoners-are-behind-bars-for-pot-taxpayers-spending-over-1-billion-annually-to-incarcerate-pot-offenders


I don't have the answer to the problem of detrimental drug usage, but one thing is clear - the drug war is not, and never will be, a solution.

The drug war is just another expensive (for taxpayers) non-solution to a problem, just like all the other non-solutions to problems that our government employs in order to serve and protect the 1% and their profits.

Just like the invasion and occupation of Iraq, for example. The pain, suffering and/or death, of peasants, is just another unpleasant side effect of the eternal quest for profit by the 1%.

It doesn't matter if it doesn't work, and will clearly never work. We'll simply continue to employ destructive ineffective methods as long as it serves the profit interests of the 1%.

Occupy

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Yes, the answer is to keep doing what we've been doing for 50 years which hasn't worked. denverbill Apr 2012 #1
It has worked very well actually... ljm2002 Apr 2012 #40
+1. When apparent failures continue despite their fail, you gotta figure someone's making bank HiPointDem Apr 2012 #45
Yep, just keep up with the failed Autumn Apr 2012 #2
"By 'change,' in other words, I want to stress I didn't mean 'change.'" villager Apr 2012 #3
I think maybe he meant "Change" OccupyTheIRS Apr 2012 #8
If Obama had been President in 1932: SOS Apr 2012 #4
Ok, what about Cannabis legalization? tridim Apr 2012 #5
Excellent... russspeakeasy Apr 2012 #7
Therefore, your assertion that Obama supports MMJ is defeated. anti-alec Apr 2012 #18
This issue has exactly nothing to do with Obama's support of MMJ in legal states. tridim Apr 2012 #24
Nice weasel.. anti-alec Apr 2012 #58
"New" strategy ? What is our old one ? russspeakeasy Apr 2012 #6
he is open to debate? puh-lease...nt xiamiam Apr 2012 #9
He is open to saying he is open to debate. Actual debate? Not so much. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2012 #21
An I like to cynically put it nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #10
Hog wash! Absolute and total hogwash. RC Apr 2012 #11
RC you're right. Mimosa Apr 2012 #67
President Obama supporting legalization sadbear Apr 2012 #12
There is an old saying on Vulcan customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #29
Fine, Don't Legalize Heroin otohara Apr 2012 #13
Exactly. n/t intheflow Apr 2012 #15
Expect large campaign contribution from Corrections Corporation of America in 3, 2, 1... OnyxCollie Apr 2012 #14
True, that would save us trillions every year and we cannot have that. Rex Apr 2012 #16
Wrong. Nt abelenkpe Apr 2012 #17
"open to a debate" progressoid Apr 2012 #19
Go easy on him folks kenny blankenship Apr 2012 #20
righteous. KG Apr 2012 #28
Yeh. Just as the fracking drug war is not the answer to the problem of destructive drug usage. Zorra Apr 2012 #22
Of course it isn't. piratefish08 Apr 2012 #23
Obama is not a stupid politician Seedersandleechers Apr 2012 #25
Yeah, no one can be seen as weak on crime. boxman15 Apr 2012 #26
So making a statement that a majority of Americans support SomethingFishy Apr 2012 #30
Where did I say it was a brilliant strategy? Seedersandleechers Apr 2012 #37
OK I've stopped rolling.. maybe you can tell me what your point was SomethingFishy Apr 2012 #41
I read the article to mean Obama is against the legalization of drugs. Seedersandleechers Apr 2012 #46
There wasn't any wiggle room in Obama's statement.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #48
Not only is the man against legalization he's against anyone who SomethingFishy Apr 2012 #50
What about independents who "they" say is going to decide the election? Seedersandleechers Apr 2012 #55
It's been proven time & again through polls 'independant' xchrom Apr 2012 #59
The 'moral majority' disagrees with you. Rex Apr 2012 #47
It sure beats throwing people in jail. Obama, stop listening to your lobbyists. Gregorian Apr 2012 #27
hypocrite cthulu2016 Apr 2012 #31
President Obama is really lucky he was never caught Marrah_G Apr 2012 #32
I am beginning to think he is listening to Michelle marlakay Apr 2012 #33
No, much better than young folks like Sasha and Malia have their lives ruined over some highly silly TheKentuckian Apr 2012 #36
"Intelligent solutions are not the answer to the drug war" SomethingFishy Apr 2012 #34
If pot should be(remain) banned, so should tobacco Vehl Apr 2012 #35
I thought only republicans "doubled down on the stupid". Guess I was wrong. n/t Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #38
Thanks for telling us what you believe won't work and categorizing all illicit substances as the sam theaocp Apr 2012 #39
Portugal has a different way of doing it. originalpckelly Apr 2012 #42
Not all illegal drugs are addictive.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #43
Decriminalize, yes. Legalize, no. randome Apr 2012 #56
So how does that get the cartels out of the business? Fumesucker Apr 2012 #60
The illegal channels will continue, regardless. randome Apr 2012 #63
Why would the illegal channels continue if there are legal channels? Fumesucker Apr 2012 #65
Marijuana is not the same as alcohol. randome Apr 2012 #66
No, you claimed that the illegal channels would continue if marijuana was legalized.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #68
The cartels would put their resources into other endeavors. randome Apr 2012 #70
Eh, that really makes me enthused.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #72
Who the fuck *else* are you going to vote for, eh? Fumesucker Apr 2012 #44
I don't think either party will ever do a thing about it. Rex Apr 2012 #49
Too bad the President can't be bothered taking advice from this former President sad sally Apr 2012 #51
Translation: Companies are too busy profiting off the drug war to care. Initech Apr 2012 #52
In other words, "Richard Nixon and I are on the same page" Laughing Mirror Apr 2012 #53
Obama admitted to using both marijuana and cocaine, correct? Puregonzo1188 Apr 2012 #54
Clearly he thinks he would have done better if he had been busted for drugs as a youth.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #62
He's wrong. tabasco Apr 2012 #57
I respectfully disagree. n/t Blue_In_AK Apr 2012 #61
Sure it is, legalize, decriminalize, educate, medicate, regulate, respect the peoples' Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #64
+1 xchrom Apr 2012 #69
Dammit, Obama... Jester Messiah Apr 2012 #71
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