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In reply to the discussion: Jill Abramson: CONDI RICE Personally Asked Me to KILL CIA STORIES [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)61. Me, yes, even if much of the Secret Government is beyond apparent control of the president.
For those new to the subject:
Nixon approved hiring a Secret Service man who said he'd 'kill on command' to guard Ted Kennedy. You can hear Nixon and Haldeman discuss it, about 40 minutes into the HBO documentary "Nixon by Nixon." While I had read the part of the transcript available years ago, and wrote about it on DU, almost no one I know has heard anything about it.
Ted Kennedy survived Richard Nixon's Plots
By Don Fulsom
In September 1972, Nixons continued political fear, personal loathing, and jealously of Kennedy led him to plant a spy in Kennedys Secret Service detail.
The mole Nixon selected for the Kennedy camp was already being groomed. He was a former agent from his Nixons vice presidential detail, Robert Newbranda man so loyal he once pledged he would do anythingeven killfor Nixon.
The President was most interested in learning about the Sen. Kennedys sex life. He wanted, more than anything, stated Haldeman in The Ends of Power, to catch (Kennedy) in the sack with one of his babes.
In a recently transcribed tape of a September 8, 1972 talk among the President and aides Bob Haldeman and Alexander Butterfield, Nixon asks whether Secret Service chief James Rowley would appoint Newbrand to head Kennedys detail:
Haldeman: He's to assign Newbrand.
President Nixon: Does he understand that he's to do that?
Butterfield: He's effectively already done it. And we have a full force assigned, 40 men.
Haldeman: I told them to put a big detail on him (unclear).
President Nixon: A big detail is correct. One that can cover him around the clock, every place he goes. (Laughter obscures mixed voices.)
President Nixon: Right. No, that's really true. He has got to have the same coverage that we give the others, because we're concerned about security and we will not assume the responsibility unless we're with him all the time.
Haldeman: And Amanda Burden (one of Kennedys alleged girlfriends) can't be trusted. (Unclear.) You never know what she might do. (Unclear.)
Haldeman then assures the President that Newbrand will do anything that I tell him to He really will. And he has come to me twice and absolutely, sincerely said, "With what you've done for me and what the President's done for me, I just want you to know, if you want someone killed, if you want anything else done, any way, any direction "
President Nixon: The thing that I (unclear) is this: We just might get lucky and catch this son-of-a-bitch and ruin him for '76.
Haldeman: That's right.
President Nixon: He doesn't know what he's really getting into. We're going to cover him, and we are not going to take "no" for an answer. He can't say "no." The Kennedys are arrogant as hell with these Secret Service. He says, "Fine," and (Newbrand) should pick the detail, too.
Toward the end of this conversation, Nixon exclaims that Newbrands spying (is) going to be fun, and Haldeman responds: Newbrand will just love it.
Nixon also had a surveillance tip for Haldeman for his spy-to-be: I want you to tell Newbrand if you will that (unclear) because he's a Catholic, sort of play it, he was for Jack Kennedy all the time. Play up to Kennedy, that "I'm a great admirer of Jack Kennedy." He's a member of the Holy Name Society. He wears a St. Christopher (unclear). Haldeman laughs heartily at the Presidents curious advice.
Despite the enthusiasm of Nixon and Haldeman, Newbrand apparently never produced anything of great value. When this particular round of Nixons spying on Kennedy was uncovered in 1997, The Washington Post quoted Butterfield as saying periodic reports on Kennedy's activities were delivered to Haldeman, but that Butterfield did not think any potentially damaging information was ever dug up.
SOURCE:
http://surftofind.com/tedkennedy
I'm glad you're familiar with this, MontyPow. For everyone else interested in "Why does that matter?" The Warren Commission, and the nation's mass media, never heard about the CIA-Mafia plots to kill Castro until the Church Committee in 1975. You'd think that would be a matter of concern to all Americans, especially considering how then-vice president Nixon was head of the "White House Action Team" that contacted the Mafia for murder. They might be the same traitors or clowns who investigated Sen. Church himself, merely for serving the People. We don't know for sure as the names are apparently beyond the reach of Congress and the Executive.
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CIA remains under control of BushInc. No president can crack the inner power circle
blm
Oct 2014
#10
Just stop it. Stop giving a free pass to the Presidents that should know better.
MontyPow
Oct 2014
#54
Glad you asked. Unless you've got Top Secret clearance and a numbered Swiss bank account...
Octafish
Oct 2014
#57
Me, yes, even if much of the Secret Government is beyond apparent control of the president.
Octafish
Oct 2014
#61
I read your post. I concluded that with such powers there is no point in voting.
MontyPow
Oct 2014
#67
The Intercept :James Risen’s new book on war-on-terror abuses comes out tomorrow
Ichingcarpenter
Oct 2014
#7
And, to this very fucking day, anyone who disagrees with the Official Government Handout about
djean111
Oct 2014
#16
Careful, there - I don't think being a Progressive is desired in the New Democratic Party any more.
djean111
Oct 2014
#32
Or at least marginalize them but keep them around for voting purposes. < They may have screwed
jtuck004
Oct 2014
#87
oh the white privilege of complaining after the fact...shouldn't this meeting have been part of the
Supersedeas
Oct 2014
#24
Now you know why I was shocked to hear that the White House had a direct link to
Baitball Blogger
Oct 2014
#25
So why would she capitulate? Either her patriotism got the best of her or she felt threatened.
rhett o rick
Oct 2014
#34
And now Kindasleazy is picking football teams to play for national championship.
liberal N proud
Oct 2014
#51
Kick for an extraordinary thread! Bookmarked for all the excellent information here.
scarletwoman
Oct 2014
#71
lol - if Risen had published an expose of our current administration's fuckups, you can just
whereisjustice
Oct 2014
#72
Translation: I regret that I was and am a tool. As the Church Lady might say,
KingCharlemagne
Oct 2014
#86