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HereSince1628

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61. Exactly, but what member of the HIV related illnesses or hepatitis does that?

Tue Oct 14, 2014, 07:05 PM

Oct 2014

I've know I've attended meetings and sat in lunch with HIV positive people.

Nothing dramatic went on with their digestive system...which isnt' to say some infection couldn't cause an HIV+ person to present with vomiting or bloody diarrhea.

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We shouldn't underestimate it: Ebola is FAR more contagious than HIV or hepatitis. [View all] pnwmom Oct 2014 OP

What about that breakthrough that AIDs treatment stops the Ebola virus? loudsue Oct 2014 #1

If somebody does a controlled study of it, then sit up and take notice. Otherwise, kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #4

It's not a breakthrough yet -- the NIH is considering studying it. Also, it can cause liver damage. pnwmom Oct 2014 #5

Yes. It takes only a few virons to infect someone. closeupready Oct 2014 #2

Even rabies, which is terrifying, only has that nasty 100% mortality rate if you don't get kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #3

interesting article melm00se Oct 2014 #6

There are different ways to view it. But I'd much rather be in a room with someone pnwmom Oct 2014 #7

with all three diseases melm00se Oct 2014 #8

But there's always the possibility of getting into contact with something they touched pnwmom Oct 2014 #10

(Warning: snark alert) there's always the possibility melm00se Oct 2014 #14

I'm not recommending panic, obsession, or false bravado. pnwmom Oct 2014 #15

The grocery cart........ KentuckyWoman Oct 2014 #23

How often does HIV or Hepatitis result in projectile vomiting and explosive bloody diarrhea? HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #31

Brown vomit the same color (and smell) as the diarrhea HockeyMom Oct 2014 #58

Exactly, but what member of the HIV related illnesses or hepatitis does that? HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #61

None HockeyMom Oct 2014 #62

What about other risks? FLPanhandle Oct 2014 #9

Not true. It is not hard to get Ebola from touching something that an Ebola patient pnwmom Oct 2014 #11

No it isn't. FLPanhandle Oct 2014 #12

Merely touching something CAN transmit the virus, because it is very common to touch something pnwmom Oct 2014 #16

Sorry, you are asserting the virus is easy to catch without any data FLPanhandle Oct 2014 #18

Infectious disease experts say it's highly contagious. closeupready Oct 2014 #20

Give me a link to one controlled study FLPanhandle Oct 2014 #21

Why should I do that? closeupready Oct 2014 #24

Because the CDC and WHO disagree with your assertion FLPanhandle Oct 2014 #25

Where is your link about that "one CDC study"? n/t pnwmom Oct 2014 #36

Our friend knows nothing and has nothing. Except probably kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #39

The CDC references the study DeadLetterOffice Oct 2014 #49

The cited paragraph was taken out of context. pnwmom Oct 2014 #53

In addition to not knowing what fomites are, you don't know a thing about the ethics of kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #28

So you have nothing FLPanhandle Oct 2014 #30

Please cite your epidemiological credentials so i can decide whether kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #38

PANIC PANIC PANIC FLPanhandle Oct 2014 #40

Oooohhh, you can cut and paste links!!!! Makes you the real expert. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #43

You also apparently flunked vocabulary 101 in First Grade. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #46

WHO says 10k new cases a week can be expected and upped the death rate to 70% Puzzledtraveller Oct 2014 #45

If you draw from that finding that Ebola is highly contagious, I agree. closeupready Oct 2014 #64

Highly infectious. High mortality rate. NOT highly contagious. DeadLetterOffice Oct 2014 #68

For medical professionals, sure. For most of us, not much difference closeupready Oct 2014 #73

Dr. Bruce Ribner, one of the infectious disease specialists at Emory, pnwmom Oct 2014 #34

I don't think anybody has EVER said it was as contagious as the flu or common cold. Chemisse Oct 2014 #56

2 people touch a surface. You do so next, then rub your nose. You are more likely to uppityperson Oct 2014 #22

Our friend has clearly never heard of fomites. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #47

You mean like, maybe, touching some part of the personal protection gear HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #32

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #26

Some of this is parsing technical views....a viral particle in the air HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #52

We don't really think of dust motes as fomites. If it floats across the room, it's an "aerosol". kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #54

Not thinking of dust mote but, rather spittle, contaminated heavier than air exudates HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #55

Spittle is typically > 100 microns (I may be wrong on this) so doesn't float around. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #57

Right and particles aren't always independent of 'stuff' on which they are expelled. HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #59

There's a huge difference between the early stages and the later stages Yo_Mama Oct 2014 #63

Recommend. nt Zorra Oct 2014 #13

And that is why gratuitous Oct 2014 #17

Hardy har har. pnwmom Oct 2014 #29

+1 000 000 000 000 000 kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #48

ATM it would be foolish to just dismiss it off hand. Rex Oct 2014 #19

Not only more contagious Faux pas Oct 2014 #27

CDC faq on ebola transmission azurnoir Oct 2014 #33

"At peak of illness." In other words, very infectious just before death. morningfog Oct 2014 #35

Ebola is a real threat. We should not be treating it with such disdain and disinterest. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #37

I was thinking about wearing my weeding gloves out and about....I have lots of them Tumbulu Oct 2014 #42

Good idea. I have skin problems and lots of surgical gloves. I think I will take them with me when JDPriestly Oct 2014 #76

And far LESS contagious than flu, dengue, malaria, chikungunya, or even the plague. hobbit709 Oct 2014 #41

Link, please. n/t pnwmom Oct 2014 #50

None of those need direct contact. hobbit709 Oct 2014 #51

No. Though I would prefer that babies have a version, if possible, without mercury. pnwmom Oct 2014 #65

You are souring the "everything is alright" meme! Puzzledtraveller Oct 2014 #44

It really isn't more contagious. Just much more lethal. DeadLetterOffice Oct 2014 #60

That depends on how you define contagious. pnwmom Oct 2014 #66

High viral load = highly INFECTIOUS, not highly contagious DeadLetterOffice Oct 2014 #67

Dr. Bruce Ribner, one of the specialists on the infectious disease team taking care of Ebola pnwmom Oct 2014 #69

exactly, one droplet from a cough or sneeze can be enough Puzzledtraveller Oct 2014 #74

And that's what R0 expresses. How contagious is this virus? longship Oct 2014 #72

People don't seem to understand how to interpret R0. LisaL Oct 2014 #70

That is the dumbest thing I have read about R0. DeadLetterOffice Oct 2014 #71

Did you actually read the article? LisaL Oct 2014 #75