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OneTenthofOnePercent

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23. Many states have civil immunity self-defense laws in effect.

Sun Apr 15, 2012, 02:22 PM

Apr 2012

Nothing wrong with that, IMO. No law can cover every situatoin perfectly - we are a diverse complex society. If Zimmerman walks it doesn't negate all the proper situations the law covers and victims it's helps to protect. There's always an exception and we shouldn't base rational lawmaking on outlier sensationalist events.

Honestly, people complaing about the SYG self defense laws (laws designed to protect victimized individuals) in response to the Martin shooting sound no different than the neocons clammoring for removng our welfare system because a few dishonest people cheat the system (ie: lottery winners receiving foodstamps).

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If Zimmerman prevails in the SYG hearing the Martin family can't sue. [View all] dkf Apr 2012 OP

So screwed up. jp11 Apr 2012 #1

Or it's imperative to be completely non confrontational. dkf Apr 2012 #2

You think that Trayvon was being confrontational? hlthe2b Apr 2012 #4

I have no idea. dkf Apr 2012 #5

It can be tested in every claim of SYG in a hearing before a judge. aikoaiko Apr 2012 #3

What makes you think it is not tested? ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #7

It seems to take that idea and put it in the hands of one person the jp11 Apr 2012 #53

It is more an anti tort lawyer part of FL law ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #6

"dead perp" alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #9

That is the classic requirement for a justifiable homicide ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #10

Blah blah blah alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #17

More examples of your intellectual excellence ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #18

Whatevs, "Professor" alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #24

You should have just kicked Herr Professor in the balls. Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #30

Professor bongbong Apr 2012 #33

He seemed to just be explaining what the law says customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #35

He misread the law. anti-alec Apr 2012 #38

It remains to be seen customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #40

You called Martin a dead perp. anti-alec Apr 2012 #37

I believe you should be addressing this post to somebody else alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #39

I did not address Martin in the least ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #47

...as it pertains and relates to this case. morningfog Apr 2012 #50

A generic comment on how the law works ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #52

Spell checker and the bright Socal sun strike again ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #49

Uh huh alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #51

The term Mr. Scumbag was used when I took CC classes NutmegYankee Apr 2012 #28

"Dead Perp"?? WTF??!! zorahopkins Apr 2012 #46

I did not, but don't let that stop your poutrage ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #48

Judges Look To Legislative Intent, Especially Appellate Justices DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2012 #8

True. ewagner Apr 2012 #14

From what I can tell Zimmerman has no real assets anyway. former9thward Apr 2012 #11

They can still sue the HOA. HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #12

Or can they if he sticks to the latest story of his that rainbow4321 Apr 2012 #13

I dont think it matters. HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #15

I would expect the HOA insurance company to settle for a token amount ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #20

Maybe. May not be covered though. HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #21

Yeah well your declarative predictions on legal matters don't have much of a track record, IMO. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2012 #42

This is so wrong. MoonRiver Apr 2012 #16

I am not sure FL is on the side of maniacs ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #19

As I read SYG, it requires prosecution to prove GZ wasnt in imminant danger of bodily harm or death. HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #22

So, providing proof that someone is guilty of a crime is a problem? Guilty until proven innocent. OneTenthofOnePercent Apr 2012 #25

Generally, Sir, A Claim Of Self-Defense At Trial is An Affirmative Defense The Magistrate Apr 2012 #31

Burden of proof is always on the prosecution in a criminal trial alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #26

not necessarily magical thyme Apr 2012 #34

Many states have civil immunity self-defense laws in effect. OneTenthofOnePercent Apr 2012 #23

Good point. dkf Apr 2012 #27

Fingers crossed? Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #29

Just surprised is all. dkf Apr 2012 #32

Even if the Martin family got a judgment against Zimmerman customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #36

SYG law doesn't apply to Zimmerman anti-alec Apr 2012 #41

Again customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #43

Zimmerman already doomed himself anti-alec Apr 2012 #44

I don't think there was a cause for arrest customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #45