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Octafish

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8. Which makes the New York Times failure to publish all the more grievous.
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 12:58 PM
Oct 2014

Last edited Wed Oct 15, 2014, 02:57 PM - Edit history (1)

Now, the Times is actually pushing war as good for the economy:



The Pitfalls of Peace

The Lack of Major Wars May Be Hurting Economic Growth

Tyler Cowen
The New York Times, JUNE 13, 2014

The continuing slowness of economic growth in high-income economies has prompted soul-searching among economists. They have looked to weak demand, rising inequality, Chinese competition, over-regulation, inadequate infrastructure and an exhaustion of new technological ideas as possible culprits.

An additional explanation of slow growth is now receiving attention, however. It is the persistence and expectation of peace.

The world just hasn’t had that much warfare lately, at least not by historical standards. Some of the recent headlines about Iraq or South Sudan make our world sound like a very bloody place, but today’s casualties pale in light of the tens of millions of people killed in the two world wars in the first half of the 20th century. Even the Vietnam War had many more deaths than any recent war involving an affluent country.

Counterintuitive though it may sound, the greater peacefulness of the world may make the attainment of higher rates of economic growth less urgent and thus less likely. This view does not claim that fighting wars improves economies, as of course the actual conflict brings death and destruction. The claim is also distinct from the Keynesian argument that preparing for war lifts government spending and puts people to work. Rather, the very possibility of war focuses the attention of governments on getting some basic decisions right — whether investing in science or simply liberalizing the economy. Such focus ends up improving a nation’s longer-run prospects.

It may seem repugnant to find a positive side to war in this regard, but a look at American history suggests we cannot dismiss the idea so easily. Fundamental innovations such as nuclear power, the computer and the modern aircraft were all pushed along by an American government eager to defeat the Axis powers or, later, to win the Cold War. The Internet was initially designed to help this country withstand a nuclear exchange, and Silicon Valley had its origins with military contracting, not today’s entrepreneurial social media start-ups. The Soviet launch of the Sputnik satellite spurred American interest in science and technology, to the benefit of later economic growth.

War brings an urgency that governments otherwise fail to summon. For instance, the Manhattan Project took six years to produce a working atomic bomb, starting from virtually nothing, and at its peak consumed 0.4 percent of American economic output. It is hard to imagine a comparably speedy and decisive achievement these days.

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Living in a largely peaceful world with 2 percent G.D.P. growth has some big advantages that you don’t get with 4 percent growth and many more war deaths. Economic stasis may not feel very impressive, but it’s something our ancestors never quite managed to pull off. The real questions are whether we can do any better, and whether the recent prevalence of peace is a mere temporary bubble just waiting to be burst.

Tyler Cowen is a professor of economics at George Mason University.

SOURCE: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/14/upshot/the-lack-of-major-wars-may-be-hurting-economic-growth.html?_r=0



Things in the United States would be different if as many people read DU as do the NYT.

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just read the article gabeana Oct 2014 #1
Perhaps the institutional memory at NYT is defective. Octafish Oct 2014 #3
I didn't make a new Facebook friend sharp_stick Oct 2014 #2
Lots of chemicals. Rumsfeld was a private citizen on a public errand for Reagan cough Bush... Octafish Oct 2014 #6
A small correction Mnpaul Oct 2014 #27
That was actually my favorite joke/riddle from 2003-2004 Proud Public Servant Oct 2014 #4
Absolutely. As a Sales Rep for War Inc., Donald Rumsfeld is Death's Henchman. Octafish Oct 2014 #13
Business Week 2002 A US gift to Iraq Deadly viruses madfloridian Oct 2014 #5
..."It was a very innocent request, which we were obligated to fulfill," recalls Monath. Octafish Oct 2014 #14
We always knew this. Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #7
Which makes the New York Times failure to publish all the more grievous. Octafish Oct 2014 #8
Someone should counter their revisionism with an op that provides facts. Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #9
War is just another form of corporate socialism. CJCRANE Oct 2014 #24
Yep. K&R. Rummy's pal Doug Feith is cited in another overlooked article from December 1986, Sir. bobthedrummer Oct 2014 #10
Generals don't call Feith the dumbest fucking guy on the planet for nothing. Octafish Oct 2014 #16
Yet that "dumbest fucking guy" Feith set up the Office of Special Plans with Paul Wolfowitz, which bobthedrummer Oct 2014 #19
If I remember correctly Mnpaul Oct 2014 #28
The Niger memo is notorious for many reasons, it was a fabrication used along with other lies to in- bobthedrummer Oct 2014 #33
Office of Special Plans Mnpaul Oct 2014 #37
The Office of Strategic Influence/OSI was headed by former USAF Brig. Gen. Simon Peter Worden bobthedrummer Oct 2014 #38
Ding ding we have a winner malaise Oct 2014 #11
Remember John KOKAL. Octafish Oct 2014 #20
K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2014 #12
Indeed, Sir: Pretending This Is Some 'New Information' Is A Sick Joke The Magistrate Oct 2014 #15
True, Sir. The new angle is how it will help justify further warmongering via ISIS... Octafish Oct 2014 #25
Trying To Use Derelict Chemical Munitions, Sir, Is Pretty Much A Self-Correcting Problem The Magistrate Oct 2014 #26
The Bush Administration had quite a fantasy program going... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #17
The Real World. Octafish Oct 2014 #39
Don't you just love suicides where the body has been moved? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #40
Octafish, I found 2 more articles from 2002 from USA Today. madfloridian Oct 2014 #18
You mean George W Bush would not say the unvarnished, whole truth about something? Tell us all about blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #21
Thats why they were so adamant about being able to find them madokie Oct 2014 #22
Octafish Diclotican Oct 2014 #23
I think I would get a lot more sleep if you didn't keep posting this schtuff. rhett o rick Oct 2014 #29
War Ichingcarpenter Oct 2014 #30
K&R Bookmarking for later use. Thanks Octafish and all who contributed to this thread. Scuba Oct 2014 #31
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #32
Time to arrest the whole damn lot of the military industrial complex and the BFEE. Initech Oct 2014 #34
K&R woo me with science Oct 2014 #35
bttt n/t bobthedrummer Oct 2014 #36
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