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66. Entropy.

Reply to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Oct 15, 2014, 03:00 PM

Oct 2014

Sometimes, no matter how many precautions you take - it still happens.

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One of the real problems with Ebola and U.S. hospitals is [View all] MineralMan Oct 2014 OP

So, it was common sense to question what others were saying, right? boston bean Oct 2014 #1

Actually, we do know what to do. MineralMan Oct 2014 #3

I'd like to see which type of personal protective gear was used in each. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #10

Yes. I have no information, really, on that. MineralMan Oct 2014 #13

Yet, you want me to investigate hospitals in my area and determine factually boston bean Oct 2014 #20

I know exactly what the hospitals in my area are doing to MineralMan Oct 2014 #21

Oh you do. CDC thought they knew what TX was doing too. boston bean Oct 2014 #23

He's the Voice of Authority DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2014 #35

I notice a lot of those "voices" seeing things a bit differently. boston bean Oct 2014 #38

Mark my words: It's not going to happen. MineralMan Oct 2014 #40

we'll bookmark this.... and time will tell. boston bean Oct 2014 #41

+1000000000 nt Zorra Oct 2014 #50

Patients in Nebraska were in a Bio Level FOUR Unit TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #18

Nada riverwalker Oct 2014 #30

Knowledge is not the same as implementation. MineralMan Oct 2014 #32

+1 TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #37

We have the best health care money can buy. That would be more accurate. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2014 #4

We don't do so well with public health emergencies, though. MineralMan Oct 2014 #6

You are probably right marions ghost Oct 2014 #2

Yes. I hope the wake-up call from Texas is heard. MineralMan Oct 2014 #5

The next problem is that when it's not headed by an MBA, it's headed by an MD. hedgehog Oct 2014 #7

Nurses, of course, are the primary health care providers, MineralMan Oct 2014 #8

People think they go to the hospital to see the doctors, hedgehog Oct 2014 #14

RN staffs are thinning in most facilities. MineralMan Oct 2014 #16

Clearly true on patients being turned away MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #9

We don't disagree on this. MineralMan Oct 2014 #12

Where do you get this information? cbayer Oct 2014 #11

Hospitals are run as businesses in most cases. MineralMan Oct 2014 #15

Hospitals are a sometimes precarious balance between business and medicine. cbayer Oct 2014 #17

You're welcome to object to my OP as much as you like. MineralMan Oct 2014 #19

Thank! I wil anytime I think it is a FUD piece. cbayer Oct 2014 #27

Be my guest. I will continue to post as I choose. MineralMan Oct 2014 #31

Oh, I completely agree with you that there is a massive problem cbayer Oct 2014 #42

You must be very liberalhistorian Oct 2014 #46

No, I am not naive at all and I do have a significant amount of experience in this area. cbayer Oct 2014 #47

You have this exactly correct. The OP was written without a shred of data Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #58

Thanks Dreamer Tatum. cbayer Oct 2014 #64

The words "For Profit" and "Medical Care" shouldn't be put together - ever. Avalux Oct 2014 #22

I work at a not-for-profit magical thyme Oct 2014 #25

And I bet people are still bitching at how much you charge for services joeglow3 Oct 2014 #49

A society seriously at risk for a pandemic Fumesucker Oct 2014 #26

We used to have a much more robust public health system. MineralMan Oct 2014 #28

We need to think and plan BEYOND Ebola. Avalux Oct 2014 #52

Of course, when you have people who have certainly been exposed, yet who decide to hop a plane to tblue37 Oct 2014 #65

I work for a non-profit 151 bed hospital. ileus Oct 2014 #33

As you say. The problem exists in non-profit facilities, too. MineralMan Oct 2014 #36

exactly. and it's worse than that... magical thyme Oct 2014 #24

The Peter Principle at work. MineralMan Oct 2014 #29

I read that book back in the 70's Fumesucker Oct 2014 #34

It sure seems to. That's why I have been self-employed MineralMan Oct 2014 #39

Regulations require an MD as a lab director; it's really just a name on paper. Avalux Oct 2014 #53

As a former hospital administrator, I can tell you that your OP is partially correct. mnhtnbb Oct 2014 #43

There are plenty of places where the top liberalhistorian Oct 2014 #44

An MD after your name doesn't make a hoot of difference when it comes to these decisions. The empressof all Oct 2014 #45

What is the answer? joeglow3 Oct 2014 #48

We pay more than any other nation, still don't cover everyone and get poorer results than most Fumesucker Oct 2014 #51

You didn't address the question asked. joeglow3 Oct 2014 #54

I don't have an answer, or at least one that's remotely likely to be actually implemented Fumesucker Oct 2014 #55

only because of how much ends up in the pockets of the investor class corkhead Oct 2014 #57

Then we need to report to the IRS and get millions in whistle blower fees joeglow3 Oct 2014 #59

I'm not competent to answer, really. MineralMan Oct 2014 #56

This is bullshit: "We demand top shelf services, but demand to pay next to nothing for it" Cal Carpenter Oct 2014 #60

How do we spend less and get better results? joeglow3 Oct 2014 #62

If you are sincere, start here. If not, I'm not playing. Cal Carpenter Oct 2014 #63

No, no, it's all Obama's fault. And Frieden's. And the epidemiologists'. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #61

Entropy. Rex Oct 2014 #66