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In reply to the discussion: Healthcare professionals all over the country are screaming from the roof tops [View all]deutsey
(20,166 posts)61. From Democracy Now! today:
http://www.democracynow.org/2014/10/15/as_second_dallas_nurse_diagnosed_with
KAREN HIGGINS: Well, I think that, again, it was a perfect storm. It was set up. That, you know, the hospital says, "We are ready for infection," well, we are ready for infection, were just not ready for this kind of infection. We were not ready for Ebola, and we were not ready with the precautions that are actually needed to isolate these patients. And its really, you know, frustrating, and we are angry. We put everybody at risk when we dont do things right. And they did not do things right. They did not do the proper training, which is the biggest piece to this. If you train nurses, if you train healthcare workers, not only to be able to pinpoint that somebody has that disease, but to pinpoint that you can isolate them and put them on precautions and do everything you possibly can, wearing precautions to take care of that patient, this would not have happened. And it did happen.
And as I said, you know, were hearing from nurses across the country that, you know what, it would be the same scenario, that theyre not doing enough training, that there is a level of infectious disease that weve always done training for, but not to this level. And if were going to see the possibility of having another patient that has Ebola in another hospital, we have to up the game. We need to be able to take care of that patient way beyond the level that we have our normal training at. And, you know, we need the guidancenot just the guidance, we need a standard of practice so that if we know, from this point on, in every hospital, and not just accept the fact that they keep saying were prepared, but we need to mandate that they have a certain level of care, that they have a certainyou know, a level of equipment that is the safest equipment we can use, but that were also invested in doing one-on-one training, that were doing it one to one, that we are repeating the training, that we are doing drills, that we are doing everything we possibly can, not only to protect those that are taking care of that patient, but to make sure that this never happens again and that somebody else gets infected inside of a hospital because they were taking care of somebody.
KAREN HIGGINS: Well, I think that, again, it was a perfect storm. It was set up. That, you know, the hospital says, "We are ready for infection," well, we are ready for infection, were just not ready for this kind of infection. We were not ready for Ebola, and we were not ready with the precautions that are actually needed to isolate these patients. And its really, you know, frustrating, and we are angry. We put everybody at risk when we dont do things right. And they did not do things right. They did not do the proper training, which is the biggest piece to this. If you train nurses, if you train healthcare workers, not only to be able to pinpoint that somebody has that disease, but to pinpoint that you can isolate them and put them on precautions and do everything you possibly can, wearing precautions to take care of that patient, this would not have happened. And it did happen.
And as I said, you know, were hearing from nurses across the country that, you know what, it would be the same scenario, that theyre not doing enough training, that there is a level of infectious disease that weve always done training for, but not to this level. And if were going to see the possibility of having another patient that has Ebola in another hospital, we have to up the game. We need to be able to take care of that patient way beyond the level that we have our normal training at. And, you know, we need the guidancenot just the guidance, we need a standard of practice so that if we know, from this point on, in every hospital, and not just accept the fact that they keep saying were prepared, but we need to mandate that they have a certain level of care, that they have a certainyou know, a level of equipment that is the safest equipment we can use, but that were also invested in doing one-on-one training, that were doing it one to one, that we are repeating the training, that we are doing drills, that we are doing everything we possibly can, not only to protect those that are taking care of that patient, but to make sure that this never happens again and that somebody else gets infected inside of a hospital because they were taking care of somebody.
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Healthcare professionals all over the country are screaming from the roof tops [View all]
boston bean
Oct 2014
OP
Someone at CDC gave her the ok to fly when she reported a small rise in temp . She called many times
lunasun
Oct 2014
#104
What? Amd Perry would have called out the National Guard to prevent the 'feds'
sinkingfeeling
Oct 2014
#20
Currently Perry is lobbying in Europe/Rivera to set up exporting America's fossil energy and natrual
DhhD
Oct 2014
#85
So you think the CDC can sweep in and automatically clean up hospital staff, management
KittyWampus
Oct 2014
#24
Then that would be on the head of the person making the decision at the hospital, yes?
Fumesucker
Oct 2014
#42
They almost certainly assured CDC that things were under control and their professional standards
kestrel91316
Oct 2014
#33
Apparently you didn't get the memo. During the Pres Obama administration, the CDC is
rhett o rick
Oct 2014
#65
The CDC shares responsibility for the country being prepared. They say the country is
rhett o rick
Oct 2014
#74
Are you claiming the CDC was on the spot supervising Duncan's care in the hospital?
Fumesucker
Oct 2014
#80
After listening to him, I say he should resign now, and we put an actual epidemiologist in charge. H
grahamhgreen
Oct 2014
#54
Plus - we got some wars for profit goin on!!! Ebola is a distraction from profiteering.
grahamhgreen
Oct 2014
#53
The precautions and the guidelines are not the problem. Failure to make the slightest
kestrel91316
Oct 2014
#34
CDC not to blame directly but it's clear they vastly overrated the competence of the hospital staff
Fumesucker
Oct 2014
#6
It is funny how her beliefs in woo crap have resulted in continued zombiehood status
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#82
We need a Surgeon General. NOW. President Obama needs to act now and call out the rethugs.
Tommymac
Oct 2014
#18
Surgeon Generals don't "do" epidemics and infectious disease emergency response.
kestrel91316
Oct 2014
#35
Surgeon Generals are the Leading Medical Officer in the USA. They LEAD and Coordinate
Tommymac
Oct 2014
#62
There is another part of health care that should be included in this training. My granddaughter runs
jwirr
Oct 2014
#25
People assume that if they speak openly and honestly of their mistakes they will pay a price for it
Fumesucker
Oct 2014
#39
Nope, it can only happen in Texas. Read it here on DU so it has to be true.
DesMoinesDem
Oct 2014
#37
Not only that, but ebola is finding it's way around safety equipment somehow. If two workers were
grahamhgreen
Oct 2014
#52
It seems odd that we are unprepared for ebola, yet we are totally prepared for other infectious
Rex
Oct 2014
#56
crossing my fingers that this whole ebola mess will make hospitals suck less.
redruddyred
Oct 2014
#83
The republicans obstructed the nomination of a surgeon general so what do you expect?
judesedit
Oct 2014
#97