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32. in a way

Reply to HereSince1628 (Reply #26)

Wed Oct 15, 2014, 03:27 PM

Oct 2014

because people on a plane can hit a hub and spread it all over more rapidly.

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So this 2nd nurse was told not to fly and uh well she flew anyway [View all] npk Oct 2014 OP

People do a lot of things they are told not to do. LisaL Oct 2014 #1

True but unlike Duncan she is a nurse and American and has health insurance. snagglepuss Oct 2014 #116

That's not what she said. She said she called the CDC and they said it was ok to fly? WTF? nt kelliekat44 Oct 2014 #124

She might be lying. But even so, she knew her situation and, as a nurse, as a human being, should WinkyDink Oct 2014 #140

People commit actual crimes, too. But this defiant action was particularly unconscionable. WinkyDink Oct 2014 #139

with a fever per new cdc info elehhhhna Oct 2014 #2

And her mom will now get on a plane to Atlanta B2G Oct 2014 #4

Where are you hearing this? Did Amber already have direct contact with her mom? nt ecstatic Oct 2014 #14

Yes, she was visiting her family in Ohio. nt B2G Oct 2014 #16

I presume she was in contact with mother while visiting her family in OH. LisaL Oct 2014 #18

This is crazy! I'm picturing how my family would have handled things ecstatic Oct 2014 #30

Why is mother even flying to Dallas, when this nurse is being transferred to Emory? LisaL Oct 2014 #7

From what I read, she was on a plane B2G Oct 2014 #15

Why hasn't she been put in quarantine? LisaL Oct 2014 #20

Because that would make too much sense. B2G Oct 2014 #21

Of course. LisaL Oct 2014 #23

Where the hell is that mother now? LisaL Oct 2014 #86

I remember people saying that about HIV victims. upaloopa Oct 2014 #78

Ebola is easier to transmit than HIV. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #80

If you are including Ebola in Africa that is different than ebola upaloopa Oct 2014 #81

Really? Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #88

Well in a village with Ebola people don't take the upaloopa Oct 2014 #90

That's kind of my point. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #93

Maybe go to Madow blog she explained it better than I ever can upaloopa Oct 2014 #95

None of that contradicts anything I've said. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #108

Fine. We have nothing to fear from Ebola upaloopa Oct 2014 #111

What makes it virulent is the massive amount of virus in an infected person and needs only to land snagglepuss Oct 2014 #117

which means she was contagious. boomer55 Oct 2014 #37

With a fever B2G Oct 2014 #3

The only medical experience I have is taking care of my RiffRandell Oct 2014 #63

if she survives, she should be charged with a crime notadmblnd Oct 2014 #73

The passenger who flew into Nigeria sick with it Warpy Oct 2014 #5

She is a medical professional. LisaL Oct 2014 #9

You really don't get it Warpy Oct 2014 #25

She already has symptoms when she flew back to Dallas. LisaL Oct 2014 #29

Actually, sneezing carries droplets which do qualify as bodily fluids. Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #38

Ebola is not.an.upper.respiratory.virus Warpy Oct 2014 #56

Edited to get WHO's exact comments. Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #58

globalresearch... SidDithers Oct 2014 #62

Is it bad? Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #94

It ain't good... SidDithers Oct 2014 #101

I went directly to WHO. Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #103

I found the original WHO statements and linked to their website. Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #102

Thanks... SidDithers Oct 2014 #105

Oh! Double thank you. n/t Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #106

Still, no documented transmission Warpy Oct 2014 #68

No argument here. Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #136

I'm looking at the HIV model Warpy Oct 2014 #137

The unease will be erased over time. Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #138

CDC info states that saliva may or may not have a sufficient viral load Drahthaardogs Oct 2014 #99

I found the direct info from WHO. Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #100

There is no documented case of transmission through upper respiratory fluids Warpy Oct 2014 #135

That's not entirely true. Researchers "do not know" if asymptomatic ecstatic Oct 2014 #50

And she was symptomatic already. LisaL Oct 2014 #54

another mistake the CDC made TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #133

Duncan wasn't symptomatic B2G Oct 2014 #10

Liberian-American Patrick Sawyer, which is who Warpy is referring to... countryjake Oct 2014 #91

He sure as hell was in that apartment Warpy Oct 2014 #134

explain the nbc cameraman and how he got it? boomer55 Oct 2014 #39

He wasn't suited up and was taping a decontamination area. Warpy Oct 2014 #60

The person that flew into Nigeria while ill was a diplomat in his own plane TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #132

According to WHO, Sawyer flew on commercial flights countryjake Oct 2014 #142

I don't know his name TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #143

The US ebola cases are stretching many assumptions about believibility HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #6

Will staff get on the plane and fly, while having a fever? LisaL Oct 2014 #17

Question...would that be worse than travelling on a train? HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #26

in a way d_r Oct 2014 #32

In a city of millions, a bus or train rider can also expose myriads. HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #46

I understand d_r Oct 2014 #130

What about a crowded subway at rush hour? bklyncowgirl Oct 2014 #40

I.T. W.I.L.L. H.A.P.P.E.N. in New York city or some other major city. HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #43

You're not supposed to take public transportation at all. amandabeech Oct 2014 #49

I would think not. HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #51

Do hospitals provide the equipment and facilities to keep nurses safe? Warpy Oct 2014 #36

We do know. Wedding planning. LisaL Oct 2014 #44

Why she didn't call the CDC from her folks home, and have herself driven amandabeech Oct 2014 #53

Oh, FFS. That could have been handled via Skype Warpy Oct 2014 #61

She's "getting married" and traveled to Cleveland to plan her wedding and visit her mom and fiance. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #64

Yeah, her license is going to be pulled, or should be Warpy Oct 2014 #70

I doubt that will stick. Niceguy1 Oct 2014 #129

This reminds me of Katrina's aftermath. snagglepuss Oct 2014 #119

Totally believable. Iggo Oct 2014 #8

Of course npk Oct 2014 #22

since people are not following what they should in terms of movement/travel JI7 Oct 2014 #11

We have a no-fly list for a reason. B2G Oct 2014 #19

Was she told not to fly? ecstatic Oct 2014 #12

The departing flight back to Dallas was after diagnosis, and she already had a fever when she flew. LisaL Oct 2014 #13

She shouldn't have exposed others. Perhaps her mistaken choice was due to being sick. In_The_Wind Oct 2014 #27

I don't follow. LisaL Oct 2014 #33

I agree she shouldn't have flown the first time. In_The_Wind Oct 2014 #48

It was a low grade fever. LisaL Oct 2014 #55

Maybe her wedding planning was more important than the fear of spreading a deadly disease. Autumn Oct 2014 #35

it's clear that health care workers are not that informed or getting the training they need JI7 Oct 2014 #24

Yes CDC ordered all staff at the Texas medial center to avoid flying and public transprtation. npk Oct 2014 #28

Where did you see that? LisaL Oct 2014 #31

Here is one link, but it's been all over the news for weeks npk Oct 2014 #47

Looks to me like she complied... HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #67

It also says it's unclear if woman even knew of these requirements. LisaL Oct 2014 #69

The protocol is in every hospital in the US npk Oct 2014 #75

I am not arguing that she wasn't carelles. LisaL Oct 2014 #84

Yes CDC told them not to fly npk Oct 2014 #89

That link again says they were supposed to not have been traveling. LisaL Oct 2014 #97

Protocols should be known Tweedy Oct 2014 #96

They should have, but they weren't necessarily. LisaL Oct 2014 #98

Hospital's job Tweedy Oct 2014 #118

Judge Jenkins is now saying that the hospital was not instructed by the CDC ecstatic Oct 2014 #115

Thanks. So hanging around small crowds is OK? nt ecstatic Oct 2014 #34

She was suposed to be controlling her movements and avoiding people. npk Oct 2014 #52

How could that nurse have been that stupid? She must have thought being told not to fly didn't Louisiana1976 Oct 2014 #41

She's getting married and had to plan her wedding with MOM. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #66

That mom reportedly flew to Dallas. LisaL Oct 2014 #74

Anything I have seen says that she "should not have" flown Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #82

They were told not fly according to link npk Oct 2014 #87

No it doesn't. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author closeupready Oct 2014 #42

there are things beyond my comprehension Kalidurga Oct 2014 #45

How long will it be until Kevin Bacon is exposed? tularetom Oct 2014 #57

DUzy!! KamaAina Oct 2014 #109

But nurses are perfect in all they do and are incapable of doing anything so FUCKING STUPID. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #59

On the other hand, CDC is perfect. LisaL Oct 2014 #65

Not sure, but she did fly back with a fever, so...... Darb Oct 2014 #79

She should have called 911 in Cleveland. LisaL Oct 2014 #85

I think the same number of DUers believe the corollary... LanternWaste Oct 2014 #131

"Told not to fly"? liberalhistorian Oct 2014 #71

EbolaBridezilla AngryAmish Oct 2014 #104

What liberalhistorian Oct 2014 #125

Perhaps airlines could help by refunding tickets for people who shouldn't fly? hedgehog Oct 2014 #72

If a sum of $305 is all it takes to cause for her to risk the health... LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #83

I am at a loss how a health care professional (BSN, ADN ????) .... etherealtruth Oct 2014 #76

What a disappointment Catherine Vincent Oct 2014 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author valerief Oct 2014 #107

You are a little late to the party. LisaL Oct 2014 #110

I AM late. Thanks for the update. valerief Oct 2014 #112

So selfish. Just disgusting. MoonRiver Oct 2014 #113

CBS is reporting that she called the CDC before flying. Ilsa Oct 2014 #114

This is effing unbelievable. I am utterly shocked of CDCs carefree attitude snagglepuss Oct 2014 #120

Here's the thread with link info: Ilsa Oct 2014 #121

If that is true, that's mind boggling. LisaL Oct 2014 #122

thread: Ilsa Oct 2014 #123

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2014 #126

It's being covered on CBS and now CNN. Ilsa Oct 2014 #127

She wasn't told not to fly. LisaL Oct 2014 #128

That is my understanding as well. nt arthritisR_US Oct 2014 #141