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Robb

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Sun Apr 15, 2012, 02:58 PM Apr 2012

Corporations instead of cartels -- or be careful what you wish for. [View all]

Obama spoke in Colombia on the "war on drugs", and had I thought a rather nuanced answer to a question about legalization.

President Obama said the answer to the increasing power of drug cartels in the hemisphere was to encourage societies with strong economics, rule of law, and a sound law enforcement infrastructure.

"I personally and my administration's position is that legalization is not the answer, that in fact if you think about how it would end up operating, the capacity of a large-scale drug trade to dominate certain countries, if they were allowed to operate legally without any constraint could be just as corrupting, if not more corrupting than the status quo," he said.


This sounds to me like a transition strategy. If legalization happened tomorrow, he's suggesting cartels would exert the same corrupting influence on countries like Colombia that they do today -- only without fear of even a token reprisal from law enforcement. Instead, I think he's saying, you knock out the cartels first, then legalize.

Then, of course, corporations will move in. Drugs will always be big business -- you can grow your own, but people can grow their own vegetables, too, and don't. I understand the administration's position that a corporation might operate slightly more ethically than a cartel that suddenly gains legal status -- but I don't agree the difference will be as marked as one might hope.
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Well regulated corporations, in all spheres, elleng Apr 2012 #1
His position is a sellout to the for profit Prison industry. It is not the one I support. Vincardog Apr 2012 #2
What's your vision for a path to legalization that avoids the issue of corruption? Robb Apr 2012 #3
U grow it U smoke it, The corruption is a result of the WOD. It is disingenuous to demand that it Vincardog Apr 2012 #6
Do you grow your own vegetables? How about your neighbors? Robb Apr 2012 #7
How is that relevant? Disingenuous red herring Vincardog Apr 2012 #18
There is no path that avoids corruption.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #10
What kind of corruption? 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #21
It is convenient for a superpower to develop Rex Apr 2012 #4
Cocaine or Marijuana? Junkdrawer Apr 2012 #5
Consider fruits and vegetables. Robb Apr 2012 #8
I think, make that know, there are lots and lots of corn farmers who would LOVE to grow marijuana... Junkdrawer Apr 2012 #9
Well, they'd love to grow it for what they could make *now*. Robb Apr 2012 #11
If needed, tariffs. I can think of lots of reasons for not legalizing marijuana. Junkdrawer Apr 2012 #12
Tariffs could solve the import issue. Robb Apr 2012 #13
Notice the flood of Chinese cigarettes? Junkdrawer Apr 2012 #15
Corporate dealmaking. Robb Apr 2012 #17
I think you'd find that we'd grow even fewer fruits/veggies here 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #22
Yes, I noticed Obama's iffy language, too. Very interesting. Peace Patriot Apr 2012 #14
The corporation, as a concept, has failed. I don't think regulation can repair it again. saras Apr 2012 #16
Why do you believe, they're both not intricately involved now? Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #19
You will never knock out the cartels 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #20
We are in an arms race with the cartels already, and we are stupid enough to think we can win. bemildred Apr 2012 #23
As long as drugs are kept illegal, there will be cartels to supply the demand. morningfog Apr 2012 #24
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