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38. There's no proof that they "touched" the patient with bare hands and we should question what doesn't

Wed Oct 15, 2014, 06:57 PM

Oct 2014

... jive with what's been told.

In this case it looks like CDC didn't make sure the hospitals in this country were adequality prepared for hazardous diseases

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Wait, I thought you could only catch ebola if you came in direct contact with fluids.... [View all] uponit7771 Oct 2014 OP

Of course they took precautions cali Oct 2014 #1

Duncan's first few hours in the hospital were apparently a disaster deutsey Oct 2014 #5

ah... this makes more sense... the hospitals awareness seemed REALLY REALLY low uponit7771 Oct 2014 #7

That just baffles me deutsey Oct 2014 #10

It depends on if the Private For Profit hospital thinks it is worth it to have high awareness... SalviaBlue Oct 2014 #15

Wouldn't want to cut into the CEO's $5.7 million salary, would they? deutsey Oct 2014 #17

That's why we need single payer. Louisiana1976 Oct 2014 #27

Single payer doesn't end private for-profit hospitals. Recursion Oct 2014 #43

Or Canada, Australia Aerows Oct 2014 #45

And most of those do that with private providers Recursion Oct 2014 #46

The population of the US Aerows Oct 2014 #48

How many does Canada have? The UK? (nt) Recursion Oct 2014 #49

UK as small as it is Aerows Oct 2014 #50

It's gonna a be a historic textbook case...an avalanche of of error HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #22

I can''t recall where I read it, but the report from CDC said HC workers there had no protocall napi21 Oct 2014 #28

and when they expressed concern about their exposed necks, they were told to tape them up magical thyme Oct 2014 #66

There's more - Presbyterian workers wore no hazmat suits for two days while treating Ebola patient herding cats Oct 2014 #19

I'm as dumbfounded by this as you deutsey Oct 2014 #24

I'm not shocked at all. It's a red state that hates the federal government and kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #53

My take ... LannyDeVaney Oct 2014 #2

lol... so true uponit7771 Oct 2014 #8

I read about how they "protected themselves" Kalidurga Oct 2014 #3

My take is that they did come in contact with fluids. SheilaT Oct 2014 #4

not easy to get, must have contact with bodily fluids of someone showing symptoms unblock Oct 2014 #6

I have heard it said a person has to be symptomatic and have a fever to be contagious but Autumn Oct 2014 #9

Well that would be true. On a global basis I would venture that the VAST kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #54

Having been in their shoes, but with less-deadly circumstances, it's almost impossible TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #11

Blame it on Texas. n/t cherokeeprogressive Oct 2014 #12

Ebola patients are splashy, that's my take. "Bodily fluids" is a sanitized name for.... Hekate Oct 2014 #13

Wow, I didn't know about this. Now THAT is cause arthritisR_US Oct 2014 #21

And we already know that dogs can become ASYMPTOMATICALLY kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #55

My understanding is tha the virus can't live very long arthritisR_US Oct 2014 #64

They have no clue how Patient Zero in the West African outbreak kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #56

Studying her pets feces makes sense. I would think local primates would be arthritisR_US Oct 2014 #65

OMG they had that video looping on local news ctaylors6 Oct 2014 #41

Whut? The guy I saw spraying wasn't in sandals, maybe I have it mixed up with the first nurse. lonestarnot Oct 2014 #47

My take is that they came into contact with fluids. Daemonaquila Oct 2014 #14

I heard right here you had to go out of your way to catch Ebola seveneyes Oct 2014 #16

It saddens me to see this because you were strongly in the CDC's corner apples and oranges Oct 2014 #18

The CDC made the mistake of assuming that when it announced hedgehog Oct 2014 #23

Nailed it...nt SidDithers Oct 2014 #30

Engineers have a saying "You can't make anything idiot proof, hedgehog Oct 2014 #31

Yet when I worked in biotech MattBaggins Oct 2014 #52

This saying finds perfect application in this situation. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #59

This sounds like the most likely answer uponit7771 Oct 2014 #36

Yep. I've been told I'm a terrible person for saying as much. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #58

I still am, I don't reflexively dislike gov agencies... I don't think the CDC is doing a good job... uponit7771 Oct 2014 #39

I actually had a great deal of respect and trust in the CDC, but that was apples and oranges Oct 2014 #40

They could have contracted it when they were arthritisR_US Oct 2014 #20

Entropy. Rex Oct 2014 #25

No one wore protective gear for days, until Ebola was confirmed. morningfog Oct 2014 #26

Exactly. They should've started wearing protective gear when they suspected Ebola. Louisiana1976 Oct 2014 #29

Indeed. Bodily fluids is how you spread it. They weren't protected for too long. Appalling. uppityperson Oct 2014 #32

it is particularly present in the lungs Puzzledtraveller Oct 2014 #34

That's not true. They did wear protective gear. LisaL Oct 2014 #42

It could be the f*ck up of the new millenium Puzzledtraveller Oct 2014 #33

Wet fluids, teh patient himself, or contaminated objects collectively as fomites. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #35

The nurses cared for the patient, they TOUCHED the patient rustydog Oct 2014 #37

There's no proof that they "touched" the patient with bare hands and we should question what doesn't uponit7771 Oct 2014 #38

It's not CDC's job to prepare hospitals. It is their job to provide them with kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #60

Critial Ebola patients bleed out of their eyes, mouth, nose, and anus Recursion Oct 2014 #44

On Rachel's show last night, doctor said bleeding occurs only 18% of time Justice Oct 2014 #62

Most ebola cases do not become "critical". We still don't know why Recursion Oct 2014 #63

That is where I am too. Jamastiene Oct 2014 #51

BINGO! CDC Downplayed the risk, Then just sent "protocol" to hospitals, then didn't make sure uponit7771 Oct 2014 #61

This has been mishandled from the beginning Aerows Oct 2014 #57