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markpkessinger

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16. Rachel Maddow called him out on her show on Monday night . . .
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 10:15 PM
Oct 2014

. . . here's an excerpt of the relevant part of the transcript:

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Leon Panetta published a book last week talking all sorts of smack against President Obama. He has since been doing an aggressive series of national media interviews talking about how President Obama is a bad leader and he`s weak and he`s made bad decisions about national security issues that Leon Panetta would have done better.

This time around, there`s something weird going an. We`ve something like this with Don Regan and the Reagan era, and we saw something like this with Dick Morris, and the Clinton era. But this one in the Obama era has something weird going on, because the criticisms that Leon Panetta is lobbying levying against President Obama do not seem to be his own criticisms. And I mean it this way. When Leon Panetta was defense secretary, he staunchly defended and argued for President Obama`s decision to take U.S. troops out of Iraq.

Now that Panetta has fled Washington and written his tell-all book, he says taking troops out of Iraq, that was a terrible decision. He wouldn`t have taken troops out of Iraq at all.

He`s also complaining now that President Obama was basically too slow on decisions about Syria, too deliberate. He`s taking in too much information and just not acting fast enough when it came to the question of getting involved in Syria. President Obama is basically saying that the beef on Panetta is Obama is too darn careful.

Leon Panetta knew better. He would have rushed right in on Syria. That`s what he says now that he`s selling his tell-all, right?

Here`s what he said about it when he was actually defense secretary.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

LEON PANETTA, FORMER DEFENSE SECRETARY: It`s not that easy to deal with some of the concerns that are out there. But nevertheless, we`re working at it. We are trying to engage with these other countries.

There are other countries that are interested in trying to provide provisions. We are working with them. We are talking with them. And we are looking at every option to try to put that in place.

Can it happen today? Can it happen now? No, it`s going to take some work. It`s going to take some time. But when we do it, we`ll do it right. We will not do it in a way that will make the situation worse. That`s what we have to be careful of.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

MADDOW: And then the same guy wrote a book about how President Obama is just being too darn careful about these things. Going too slow.

Since leaving the administration, Leon Panetta, I have to tell you, has a new job. He`s become senior council at something called Beacon Global Strategies. The managing director and co-founder of Beacon Global Strategies is a guy named Philippe Reines who has been part of Hillary Clinton`s political operation since her time in the United States Senate and her time at the State Department.

[font size=3]Philippe Reines is widely expected to be the spokesman for the Hillary Clinton campaign once she officially starts running for president again. [/font]For now, he runs the firm that employs Leon Panetta. And Leon Panetta has just written a book making the patented Hillary Clinton anti-Barack Obama campaign charge that Barack Obama as president is weak on national security and he hasn`t been enthusiastic enough and fast enough when it comes to using force. Obviously, that means someone like Hillary Clinton who would be much more hawkish would therefore be a much better president.

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(emphasis added).

This explains a lot, I think. And you're right -- it IS sick!

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Leon Panetta is a scary, scary man [View all] MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 OP
Leon is trying to sell a book madokie Oct 2014 #1
I almost wonder if he's *trying* to hurt Democratic turnout MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #4
It sure seems that way madokie Oct 2014 #7
He was in the House. CA 16th District, south of SF, agricultural area, mostly. MADem Oct 2014 #24
Mybad, sorry madokie Oct 2014 #26
He's had so many roles in DC it's easy to conflate--he's done well for a House member. MADem Oct 2014 #27
Not only got away with it madokie Oct 2014 #31
I always thought Dick was DRUNK. Shootin' while drinkin' is what I'm-a thinkin'!!!! MADem Oct 2014 #33
Well that too madokie Oct 2014 #35
Hell, if it were me, I'd probably STILL be in jail for the crime!!!! MADem Oct 2014 #36
During this tour, he has said Hillary will make a strong President. merrily Oct 2014 #29
The timing of this book tour strongly supports your thought. After election day merrily Oct 2014 #54
of course he is DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #63
Oh, he's trying to do more than sell a book. He's got big plans for another post in 2016. 2banon Oct 2014 #19
He's too old. He'll be 78 in 2016. I doubt this very much. nt MADem Oct 2014 #25
How old is Kissinger? Sure, he has no cabinet position, but he is still influential. merrily Oct 2014 #30
I was responding to a suggestion that he was seeking another "post" two years from now. MADem Oct 2014 #34
I was responding to the same point, as modified by your age comment. merrily Oct 2014 #37
Yes, the word post "can" mean that, but when the year 2016 is added in, the inference is that the MADem Oct 2014 #40
Um, no, no and no. merrily Oct 2014 #44
I was speaking with someone else, and you interjected yourself into the conversation to challenge me MADem Oct 2014 #71
I have already responded to that. See my prior post on the subject. merrily Oct 2014 #74
Yes, so you have. nt MADem Oct 2014 #76
Decades of bloodletting Autumn Oct 2014 #2
Decades. MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #3
It would help if people would stop voting for politicians that do this shit. [n/t] Maedhros Oct 2014 #22
If a majority of people did that, yes, it would help. merrily Oct 2014 #32
I've been saying no wilsonbooks Oct 2014 #5
The Diane Rehm show is a small light in the MSM darkness... A real treasure riderinthestorm Oct 2014 #6
She personally went after Panetta MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #9
What did she have to say when he was nominated, though? merrily Oct 2014 #38
One of my favorites. Best show on radio with best host. One can learn a lot by tuning in to her. kelliekat44 Oct 2014 #21
it's gonna require more than that stupidicus Oct 2014 #8
"The moral, political and economic violence of neoliberalism must be made visible..." woo me with science Oct 2014 #14
Washington DC Is Addicted To War Liberal_Dog Oct 2014 #10
Even most heroin addicts stop short of mass murder and hacking off limbs. merrily Oct 2014 #48
Panetta's probably right about decades of bloodshed agentS Oct 2014 #11
The Iraqis did not want to keep the SOFA. They would have been delighted to keep the troops. MADem Oct 2014 #28
The Iraqis refused to agree with Obama to keep the SOFA beyond Bush's withdrawal date. merrily Oct 2014 #42
The SOFA gives USA the prosecutorial high ground; that doesn't mean that personnel are not MADem Oct 2014 #72
Put another way, the SOFA required Iraq-or any nation--to give up the inherent sovereign right of merrily Oct 2014 #73
Generally speaking, they are reciprocal to some extent. MADem Oct 2014 #75
Leon is doing all of this for the Clintons. He's their boy through and through. Zen Democrat Oct 2014 #12
Yes, he is. bigwillq Oct 2014 #13
Very consistent with most or all of Obama's nominees, though. merrily Oct 2014 #39
Turns out.... zentrum Oct 2014 #15
There were signs of that when he was nominated, though. Where were all the critics then? merrily Oct 2014 #43
Rachel Maddow called him out on her show on Monday night . . . markpkessinger Oct 2014 #16
This explains it pretty well: MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #23
Please see Reply 38. merrily Oct 2014 #46
What does a post about Diane Rehm have to do with Rachel Maddow;s reporting on the issue? markpkessinger Oct 2014 #58
As Jon Stewart might say, you seem nice. merrily Oct 2014 #59
After reading some of your other posts in this thread . . . markpkessinger Oct 2014 #66
Qualifications Tweedy Oct 2014 #67
He's what we call a "shill" DefenseLawyer Oct 2014 #17
I don't agree with all that, but I do agree Obama should not have nominated him in the first place. merrily Oct 2014 #49
Sorry to continue with the same song, but the answer to the question of why rhett o rick Oct 2014 #64
If it is the same old song, you are singing to the choir. merrily Oct 2014 #65
The art of politics is the possible Tweedy Oct 2014 #68
The art of politics is the possible, but you settle for what is possible merrily Oct 2014 #69
Move on to achieve more Tweedy Oct 2014 #70
I apply the same standard to our government that I apply to individuals: MontyPow Oct 2014 #18
Then maybe fewer threats should be made, not more useless boots on the ground. merrily Oct 2014 #41
I don't follow. MontyPow Oct 2014 #51
Belief in danger is not a reason to put boots on the ground. merrily Oct 2014 #53
I am failing miserably at expressing myself. MontyPow Oct 2014 #60
Yes, I got that. You are not failing miserably. I am. I am making different points than you did. merrily Oct 2014 #61
It would seem we are on the same page after all. MontyPow Oct 2014 #62
I didn't like him before you didn't like him nt fadedrose Oct 2014 #20
Panetta is hawking his book, snake oil salesman style. democrank Oct 2014 #45
That is no surprise, but he is doing that on his own time and dime, not those of the taxpayer. merrily Oct 2014 #47
Lots of scary people out there. Saying no doesn't seem to matter, as another merrily Oct 2014 #50
Seems like he's been listening to Liz Warren Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #52
Or almost anyone in or out of DC who supports war and/or Obama. merrily Oct 2014 #55
Strange... I thought she was one of the few MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #56
Leon Panetta, "Cut entitlements, not the military!" Enthusiast Oct 2014 #57
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