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In reply to the discussion: Kicking down and kissing up: Signs of a classic authoritarian [View all]merrily
(45,251 posts)3. I can't define authoritarianism, but I know it when I see it.
Something like what the SCOTUS once said about porn, only authoritarianism is probably less productive than porn.
In fact a classic authoritarian is obsequious and servile to those perceived to be of a higher social status while at the same time being extremely harsh and strict with anyone they judge to be their social inferior.
I agree, with two qualifications. I don't know if authoritarians are servile based on perceived social status or based on who they think that help the authoritarian achieve their goals. For example, a politician may outrank the minister of a relatively small church in social status, but, if the politician thinks the minister can help him or her get elected or reelected, watch the authoritarian politician kiss up.
Then, of course, there was Poppy Bush blaming April Glasbie for allegedly giving Hussein the go signal on invading Kuwait.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Glaspie
You can't make up stuff like that. The most powerful man in the world, the Commander in Chief of the US military forces and the chief executive of the executive branch in which Glasbie was a relatively low level employee.
And Dimson blaming Tenet (or was it Curveball) for the invasion of Iraq when Dimson said during a 2004 Presidential debate that he regretted having trusted people he should not have trusted. This, from the man who claimed to be able to see Putin's soul.
ETA: I forgot to add the second qualification: at some point, the authoritarian is at the top of his or her particular food chain and there is no one perceived higher to kiss up, but there are tons of people perceived lower to pass the buck down to. Unless you're Harry Truman.
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xocet
Oct 2014
#48
how many ordinary people do you think an evil authority would have to order to kill
pscot
Oct 2014
#59
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Oct 2014
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rhett o rick
Oct 2014
#85
Seeing it in action in such stark terms over the last few days has been illuminating
Fumesucker
Oct 2014
#15
I couldn't tell you how many times I witnessed this in 35 years of public service
tularetom
Oct 2014
#20
Agreed, and I think they do not really understand that others don't share their fear.
MindPilot
Oct 2014
#28
So true, and even more, WHY. Seems as if lack of perspective is a big factor in reactions.
Hortensis
Oct 2014
#52
Absolutely. I was fascinated to learn that social scientists say acceptance of inequality
Hortensis
Oct 2014
#82
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KingCharlemagne
Oct 2014
#26
Not to get too dark, but there is some delicious irony of the schadenfreude type in the
KingCharlemagne
Oct 2014
#41
Meh... I'm not the idiot that got on a plane after being exposed to Ebola.
LostInAnomie
Oct 2014
#47
Another possibl indicator: Elected to Congress as a TPer. As near as I can tell, many, many of the
Hortensis
Oct 2014
#54
Authoritarian is telling your front line staff to put medical tape on their throats
Fumesucker
Oct 2014
#80
These people are supposed to be the smart ones, the ones thinking ahead, doing the planning
Fumesucker
Oct 2014
#98
It wasn't the CDC that told them to cover up with tape, it was their superiors at the hospital
Fumesucker
Oct 2014
#119
Her temp wasn't raised when she took the first flight, the CDC had cleared the nurses to work also
Fumesucker
Oct 2014
#103
In Buddhism we call it the World of Animality. It's the third lowest world from the bottom.
DesertDiamond
Oct 2014
#107
The news media in this country is no longer journalistic, but purely sensationalistic.
True Blue Door
Oct 2014
#108
Authoritarian is also a personality type as well as a political quasi-ideology
Fumesucker
Oct 2014
#120