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76. The problem with the Clintons is they assume the cheap stunts Republicans use will work for them.

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Thu Oct 16, 2014, 02:15 PM

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What, exactly, does it tell us about the Democratic Party... [View all] Ken Burch Oct 2014 OP

I hadn't realized the 'ironic weirdness' until just now when you mentioned it, but KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #1

especially one Ms.Hillary DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #2

Rest assured ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #6

I sure hope you are right (and I think you are for now). Rand Paul is a scalawag and KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #11

Trust ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #22

LOL. Thanks for that! :) (no text) KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #23

I should have said ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #24

Really.. Black Folk are exponentially smarter than Rand Paul's fawning showboating for his Cha Oct 2014 #20

Yeah, I think I may have had a autonomic freakout at the thought KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #67

You're Welcome, KC Cha Oct 2014 #68

Krugman is a bit naive about politics I think Fumesucker Oct 2014 #3

Exactly. Marr Oct 2014 #5

It simulates democracy. nm rhett o rick Oct 2014 #9

the electorate is impossibly polarized, pols really don't have much to do with it. geek tragedy Oct 2014 #12

And it's taken a lot of effort by the politicians and the M$M to get the electorate that way Fumesucker Oct 2014 #13

It's the collapse of the parties into proxies geek tragedy Oct 2014 #15

I'm reading David Halberstam's book "The Fifties" right now Fumesucker Oct 2014 #16

It is still Nixon's party. nt geek tragedy Oct 2014 #21

Excellent comments in this subthread... woo me with science Oct 2014 #40

Thanks, I like a lot of what you write too.. Fumesucker Oct 2014 #70

Just a nice, cushy job BuelahWitch Oct 2014 #43

Divided government gives everyone plausible deniability for screwing us over. Maedhros Oct 2014 #58

Over on Discussionist there's right wingers that feel the same way, think the same thing Fumesucker Oct 2014 #60

The people with real power in this country (indeed, the world) prefer to have Maedhros Oct 2014 #61

Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding! Ladies and Gents, We Have a Winner! 2banon Oct 2014 #75

From the point of view of the media, too. Close races = campaign cash = ad-time purchases arcane1 Oct 2014 #79

It says we are far from ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #4

Absolutely in agreement.. 2banon Oct 2014 #52

Who do we care what one economist thinks 'at this critical time'? sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #7

Russell Brand has a new book out called, "Revolution". It isn't about violent revolution. rhett o rick Oct 2014 #10

I liked something he said as a guest on Lawrence O'Donnell's show tonight. calimary Oct 2014 #30

Russell Brand is intelligent, articulate and most likely a genius. But none of those things rhett o rick Oct 2014 #44

Wow ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #25

Wow, do you know how many members of Congress there are? The Senate? sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #33

You said ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #38

To answer your last question, the problem is Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #55

I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #56

(though Shiite politicians are actually the majority) muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #72

Right you are. Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #73

Yes, I AM saying the Progressive Caucus is not Progressive enough. Have you been paying sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #63

Wow ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #64

Ignorant viewpoint on Krugman and politics in general HERVEPA Oct 2014 #27

It matters to ME that Democrats act like Democrats when they are elected. It matters sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #31

"And FYI, THIS is when voters tell those asking for their votes what THEY, the VOTERS, liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #32

Amazing isn't it? The gall of people to come here and tell the voters to remain silent during the sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #36

Telling our elected officials who represent us what we want from them is a voting right I am liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #39

Thank you, clearly you understand what democracy means. It seems that there are people sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #62

Nobody has told you to remain silent. HERVEPA Oct 2014 #41

I don't care if you think it is bullshit or not. I can think the two parties are the same if I want liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #42

Saying that people are claiming "both parties are the same" is a bullcrap meme. It's a strawman rhett o rick Oct 2014 #45

'Kick the Conservatives out of our party, back to the Republican Party where they belong' sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #80

Well said...nt SidDithers Oct 2014 #37

Only those in the club can do anything about upaloopa Oct 2014 #54

"Krugman has caved" zappaman Oct 2014 #71

If Dems were an army, we would need rear view mirrors in our tanks so we could watch the war world wide wally Oct 2014 #8

Krugman has usually defended the President and been fair in his criticisms, you can't really JI7 Oct 2014 #14

Krugman is an academic Jack Rabbit Oct 2014 #17

+1. eom 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #26

And a smart, liberal one. I don't mistrust all academics. n/t pampango Oct 2014 #29

What you are seeing is people lining up to join Team Hillary.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #18

She is going to run for the conservative vote and why not? She is a conservative on most rhett o rick Oct 2014 #46

Yup, and despite that I get the feeling the GOP is planning impeachment for her first term. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #47

I wouldn't be surprised. It's part of the Kabuki theater. The Oligarch Rulers rhett o rick Oct 2014 #48

The MAIN thing they want off the table is tax increases on the rich.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #50

I think they are safe with either HRC or Jeb. They want their hands on SS and Medicare and rhett o rick Oct 2014 #53

They almost got it under Obama's "Grand Bargain" but the Republicans were too greedy. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #66

exactly so.. I'd add extremely disgusting and I believe a losing strategy. 2banon Oct 2014 #57

She started pulling the Republican crap of purposely misunderstanding out of context comments.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #65

My heart was split between Kucinich and Edwards 2banon Oct 2014 #74

The problem with the Clintons is they assume the cheap stunts Republicans use will work for them. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #76

Agree on that point. Except to say that it isn't the only wrong with them. :) 2banon Oct 2014 #77

It's a sure sign that they need to get out more. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #78

Not at all loyalsister Oct 2014 #19

Why would they care about " participation in the racist backlash that he has had to battle his rhett o rick Oct 2014 #49

If someone actually thinks racism is wrong they wouldn't participate loyalsister Oct 2014 #59

How do you compromise your integrity when you have no integrity? H. Clinton made it clear rhett o rick Oct 2014 #69

They don't have the courage of their Faux pas Oct 2014 #28

Krugman is reasonable? joshcryer Oct 2014 #34

I can't seem to get my hand on the Rollingston Magazine... Stellar Oct 2014 #35

Scratching my head at this one too, Ken.. you're not alone. 2banon Oct 2014 #51