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5. He won't get that grassroots movement.

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Thu Oct 16, 2014, 03:42 PM

Oct 2014

Socialism sells in places like DU, but that's about it.

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Bernie Sanders: �If I were to run for president, do you know how much money the Kochs would spend? [View all] kpete Oct 2014 OP

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #1

This has been a paid political announcement from louis-t Oct 2014 #3

they wouldn't spend a nickel hfojvt Oct 2014 #2

The MSM would not be the only ones, nor would Republicans. merrily Oct 2014 #32

Not much, by the standards of these things, I suspect. Donald Ian Rankin Oct 2014 #4

Good point. They wouldn't waste their money attacking him unless he looked like he might win (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #24

Yes they would. They KNOW someone like Bernie Sanders would have broad public sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #149

Yes, they would. His ideas are dangerous to them. They don't want anyone thinking them or merrily Oct 2014 #35

Watch this GE tv commercial with dirty fuzzy little Bad Idea characters Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #44

Don't need to. I read the New Testament. merrily Oct 2014 #49

The point is to sway immature thinkers into believing that ideas are bad things. That ideas should Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #52

Yes, I got it. merrily Oct 2014 #53

I hadn't seen that. F4lconF16 Oct 2014 #66

On the surface this commercial looks benign, but look deeper Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #75

I think your link might be broken. F4lconF16 Oct 2014 #76

Here's the link. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #92

They pour heavy money into elections they're already likely to win JonLP24 Oct 2014 #112

Go door-to-door. Talk about issues. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #141

We Need Millions More Like You, Who Have Ability to Persuade Total Strangers AndyTiedye Oct 2014 #152

You just smile and say you are a neighbor. I tell them where I live. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #153

Bwah ha ha ha ha! woo me with science Oct 2014 #121

He won't get that grassroots movement. badtoworse Oct 2014 #5

That's because most people are too stupid to know what it means. arcane1 Oct 2014 #15

Maybe, but there are many people who do know what means... badtoworse Oct 2014 #17

Yeah but they are hypocrites, at minimum. arcane1 Oct 2014 #19

Traffic lights. Medicare. Social Security. Food that is safe to eat. Etc. merrily Oct 2014 #36

The need for direct government ownership and oversight is greatly overestimated badtoworse Oct 2014 #63

I somewhat agreed until you got to schools.... blackspade Oct 2014 #86

Who said there had to be profit in the schools? badtoworse Oct 2014 #93

What really makes some inter-city schools crappy? olegramps Oct 2014 #97

There's a lot of truth in your post, but it doesn't change anything as far as schools go. badtoworse Oct 2014 #123

They represent a small percentage of the total school population. olegramps Oct 2014 #127

That way out of the dilemma needs to be expanded badtoworse Oct 2014 #128

How do you feel about a living wage as a minimum wage? dotymed Oct 2014 #126

The minimum wage should be raised. badtoworse Oct 2014 #129

Actuallly, there are reasons why government needs to do all those things, education, JDPriestly Oct 2014 #143

I'm in Italy right now and haven't been on the net for a week. badtoworse Oct 2014 #157

The problem with your view point is that jobs that provided for needed services rhett o rick Nov 2014 #158

Government contracts usually go out for bids badtoworse Nov 2014 #159

I don't have a problem with competition for non-essential services and products. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #160

badtoworse Diclotican Oct 2014 #27

Enjoying your socialist created internet? MontyPow Oct 2014 #29

Exactly! No one seems to get that. MoonchildCA Oct 2014 #33

I think the understanding of the commons has MontyPow Oct 2014 #47

He's an independent who was a Democratic Socialist, not a Socialist. merrily Oct 2014 #45

Yeah, and there are those that know what Communism and Capitalism Live and Learn Oct 2014 #82

Sanders isn't really a socialist in any pure sense. PatrickforO Oct 2014 #74

Sanders is more of a pragmatist than 90% of DU. joshcryer Oct 2014 #85

Bernie is very Pragmatic at times.. you can tell he actually thinks and looks at the whole picture. Cha Oct 2014 #144

He's a statesman. joshcryer Oct 2014 #145

I understand what Bernie's concerns are, even among those who supposedly support his ideas, Dustlawyer Oct 2014 #88

but populism sells everywhere frylock Oct 2014 #132

False. His political view is mainstream America. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #142

True, and bluestateguy Oct 2014 #154

That's why I get out there very publicly on Facebook, especially on insane threads that are seen Ed Suspicious Oct 2014 #156

Sounds like another good reason for him to run. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2014 #6

exactly! G_j Oct 2014 #25

Dude, if they spend that much for this, I would think that would be great. Xyzse Oct 2014 #7

They could drop ten billion and not even feel it. PeteSelman Oct 2014 #12

I do. Xyzse Oct 2014 #18

and if it worked? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #30

What do you mean? That Bernie run? Xyzse Oct 2014 #42

he doesn't even get a chance at the Primaries UNTIL he BECOMES a Democrat.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #62

If he can win the primaries F4lconF16 Oct 2014 #70

No he has not..... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #73

Proof he cannot win please. My crystal ball was repo-ed yesterday eom Tommymac Oct 2014 #89

first he is not a Democrat VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #90

I thought Hillary was a Repub. JEB Oct 2014 #114

welllll.....there you go "thinking again".... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #115

Hillary is a corporate candidate JEB Oct 2014 #117

no she isnt thats a lie... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #131

and this is Democratic Underground VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #116

Ah, so only Democrats can win the Presidency. Nice straw man. Tommymac Oct 2014 #133

and THIS is Democratic Underground..... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #135

Bernie Sanders is the Best 'Democrat' in Congress...even though he is not a member of the Party. Tommymac Oct 2014 #138

You asked if HE could get elected President... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #146

and its still Front-runner 64%.......Bernie...4%! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #147

That's very true. Xyzse Oct 2014 #96

oh yeah....3 weeks...what a window VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #100

I mean, 3 weeks before the election happens. Xyzse Oct 2014 #101

he can do whatever he wants.. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #105

I understand. Xyzse Oct 2014 #108

There it is folks. We are screwed. Sen Sanders is telling us the truth and most of us can't handle rhett o rick Oct 2014 #8

And sadly, not many people want to actively participate. Nevertheless, I won't give up! arcane1 Oct 2014 #16

The glaring truth is that Barack Obama could sacrifice everything and do very little to get LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #23

"You have to start local and build up" EXACTLY!! +100 arcane1 Oct 2014 #39

As if we haven't been trying on the local level? merrily Oct 2014 #43

Not to discourage local actions, but we've been doing that for decades and we only rhett o rick Oct 2014 #68

I didn't mean to sound like nothing is being done. The struggle is eternal. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #71

Grape or cherry? merrily Oct 2014 #37

Cherry rhett o rick Oct 2014 #65

FDR was only 63 when he died MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #61

Oh come on, do you really fold up so easily? ozone_man Oct 2014 #69

I am not sure you got my point which is that the American Oligarchs have so much power rhett o rick Oct 2014 #139

soooooo....I think YOU have been doing much VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #110

So to run for the 99% you basically need to have nothing to lose? Ampersand Unicode Oct 2014 #134

ONLY because YOU think YOU are the voice of the Democrats....YOU are NOT! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #136

Maybe what we should hope for is SheilaT Oct 2014 #9

Impossible. PeteSelman Oct 2014 #13

Just a little perspective on how much 80 billion dollars can generate in interest A HERETIC I AM Oct 2014 #26

Ahh, but wouldn't it be great if we SheilaT Oct 2014 #28

If Bernie wins, it will matter less how much money the Koch's have. merrily Oct 2014 #40

Wow! First 5 posts out of the gate are anti, almost as if they're already after him..... grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #10

Almost? merrily Oct 2014 #41

If they're not gettin paid, they're gettin played. nt adirondacker Oct 2014 #46

+1 adirondacker, I am so stealing that and you can't stop me. merrily Oct 2014 #54

! adirondacker Oct 2014 #109

Awww, thank you so much! Back at you. We all need a voice. merrily Oct 2014 #111

Bernie is not Hillary, so yeah, that will happen. djean111 Oct 2014 #104

Of course he is telling the truth, sadoldgirl Oct 2014 #11

It means he needs to hear from Americans who want him to run. merrily Oct 2014 #56

"unless there is the active involvement 365 days a year of the people" PREACH IT!!! arcane1 Oct 2014 #14

And the battle has been going on forever wilsonbooks Oct 2014 #22

Truths of this sort are jagged pills The Traveler Oct 2014 #20

He isn't expressing any reluctance to run. merrily Oct 2014 #51

Nothing, because he would lose in the primaries Renew Deal Oct 2014 #21

Disagree on both counts. They don't want him with a megaphone to spread his ideas. merrily Oct 2014 #50

Do you think Bernie will call for riots in the streets? jeepers Oct 2014 #59

Nice cut-and-paste from the 2008 Obama campaign BeyondGeography Oct 2014 #31

K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2014 #34

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #38

None. In fact I'm sure they hope he does run. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #48

+1. Bernie's support, such as it is, comes from VT and forums like this. Like it or not, Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #57

You are mistaken about how much the Koch's would spend. merrily Oct 2014 #58

Do you think big business worried much about Dennis Kucinich? brooklynite Oct 2014 #98

Because Kuciinich and Sanders are the same? And the Koch brothers make up all of big business? merrily Oct 2014 #102

So if Sanders and the Koch brothers are all anamolous entities... brooklynite Oct 2014 #103

I did not say Sanders and Koch brothers are all anomolous entities. merrily Oct 2014 #107

I have no objection at all if Sanders gets in the Primary... brooklynite Oct 2014 #119

He might have a chance in the primary but for some strange reason scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #55

We are supposed to buy that she is a sure shot in the general--and no one merrily Oct 2014 #60

It all depends on the Ruling Oligarchs. I think they wanted Obama to win in 2008. rhett o rick Oct 2014 #67

Certainly, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and Ted Kennedy wanted Obama to be the nominee. merrily Oct 2014 #72

Yes but just how many Democrats that were still living in the 60's INdemo Oct 2014 #83

I may not be understanding. merrily Oct 2014 #84

No I meant how many Democrats just didn't vote because they refused to vote for INdemo Oct 2014 #95

Ah, thanks for the explanation. That clears up my question. merrily Oct 2014 #99

Senator Sanders spares us the BS. That's good. Babel_17 Oct 2014 #64

I'm ready. Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #77

So, a Sanders candidacy would pour million$ into the economy? Beartracks Oct 2014 #78

+1 hedgehog Oct 2014 #106

unfortunately, i don't think so. our electorate is shallow and lazy. lack of name recognition alone dionysus Oct 2014 #79

Yes, it is critical to not diffuse the electorate and particularly your own support TheKentuckian Oct 2014 #80

I have never gotten out and worked for a campaign before. I would work for Bernie. liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #81

As his fellow Vermonter I'd be 110% behind him. TRoN33 Oct 2014 #87

I'm in. marym625 Oct 2014 #91

Assuming he runs as a Democrat, they would spend it all on him, so he gets the Democratic nomination Reter Oct 2014 #94

The same amount they are going to spend anyway. n/t Orsino Oct 2014 #113

Bless him for speaking the truth. Is the country ready? imo no, the party... polichick Oct 2014 #118

I have began telling people who will listen dotymed Oct 2014 #120

How much did Hillary cost? JEB Oct 2014 #122

Kochs might spend to support Bernie's campaign JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2014 #124

They sure paid Cuomo handsomely. nt adirondacker Oct 2014 #137

Kochs are going to spend that much on any Democrat running for President LynneSin Oct 2014 #125

TPTB will never allow anyone of Senator Sanders' philosophical bent to be nominated, much indepat Oct 2014 #130

Great excuse! brooklynite Oct 2014 #148

Go, Bernie. Run, Bernie. We will support you. I know how to register voters. I am JDPriestly Oct 2014 #140

I'll work for you bernie. redruddyred Oct 2014 #150

IF NOT NOW, WHEN? WE ARE IN THE LAST DAYS OF THE OLD SHIT, WE GOTTA drynberg Oct 2014 #151

kick woo me with science Oct 2014 #155