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customerserviceguy

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45. I don't think there was a cause for arrest
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 07:09 PM
Apr 2012

even two days before the arrest. Clearly, Zimmerman was working with an attorney who was working with the prosecutor to figure out if there would BE charges, and what they would be. There was no reason to "turn himself in" if there was no arrest warrant or such legal paperwork being drawn up.

The only way SYG gets "shot down" is if the various legislatures decide to rewrite it or eliminate it. It's possible that the courts could try to invalidate it, but if that went all the way to the SCOTUS, we'd have to hope that one of the five conservative Justices is replaced by a progressive one at that point. Still, legislatures could use the words of such a decision to rewrite another SYG that passes judicial muster.

If this doesn't go 100% your way (and that seems to include having Zimmerman shanked in prison by a black inmate, from what you say in post #38) then I expect you will be very sorely disappointed? I have a feeling that a significant number of people feel the way you do, and it's one of the reasons that I'm glad this trial will take place after the election. I saw how Richard Nixon was able to play white fear of the 1965-68 race riots into a winning issue, even with George Wallace bleeding off the very worst of the racist vote.

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So screwed up. jp11 Apr 2012 #1
Or it's imperative to be completely non confrontational. dkf Apr 2012 #2
You think that Trayvon was being confrontational? hlthe2b Apr 2012 #4
I have no idea. dkf Apr 2012 #5
It can be tested in every claim of SYG in a hearing before a judge. aikoaiko Apr 2012 #3
What makes you think it is not tested? ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #7
It seems to take that idea and put it in the hands of one person the jp11 Apr 2012 #53
It is more an anti tort lawyer part of FL law ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #6
"dead perp" alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #9
That is the classic requirement for a justifiable homicide ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #10
Blah blah blah alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #17
More examples of your intellectual excellence ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #18
Whatevs, "Professor" alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #24
You should have just kicked Herr Professor in the balls. Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #30
Professor bongbong Apr 2012 #33
He seemed to just be explaining what the law says customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #35
He misread the law. anti-alec Apr 2012 #38
It remains to be seen customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #40
You called Martin a dead perp. anti-alec Apr 2012 #37
I believe you should be addressing this post to somebody else alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #39
I did not address Martin in the least ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #47
...as it pertains and relates to this case. morningfog Apr 2012 #50
A generic comment on how the law works ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #52
Spell checker and the bright Socal sun strike again ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #49
Uh huh alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #51
The term Mr. Scumbag was used when I took CC classes NutmegYankee Apr 2012 #28
"Dead Perp"?? WTF??!! zorahopkins Apr 2012 #46
I did not, but don't let that stop your poutrage ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #48
Judges Look To Legislative Intent, Especially Appellate Justices DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2012 #8
True. ewagner Apr 2012 #14
From what I can tell Zimmerman has no real assets anyway. former9thward Apr 2012 #11
They can still sue the HOA. HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #12
Or can they if he sticks to the latest story of his that rainbow4321 Apr 2012 #13
I dont think it matters. HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #15
I would expect the HOA insurance company to settle for a token amount ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #20
Maybe. May not be covered though. HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #21
Yeah well your declarative predictions on legal matters don't have much of a track record, IMO. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2012 #42
This is so wrong. MoonRiver Apr 2012 #16
I am not sure FL is on the side of maniacs ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #19
As I read SYG, it requires prosecution to prove GZ wasnt in imminant danger of bodily harm or death. HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #22
So, providing proof that someone is guilty of a crime is a problem? Guilty until proven innocent. OneTenthofOnePercent Apr 2012 #25
Generally, Sir, A Claim Of Self-Defense At Trial is An Affirmative Defense The Magistrate Apr 2012 #31
Burden of proof is always on the prosecution in a criminal trial alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #26
not necessarily magical thyme Apr 2012 #34
Many states have civil immunity self-defense laws in effect. OneTenthofOnePercent Apr 2012 #23
Good point. dkf Apr 2012 #27
Fingers crossed? Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #29
Just surprised is all. dkf Apr 2012 #32
Even if the Martin family got a judgment against Zimmerman customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #36
SYG law doesn't apply to Zimmerman anti-alec Apr 2012 #41
Again customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #43
Zimmerman already doomed himself anti-alec Apr 2012 #44
I don't think there was a cause for arrest customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #45
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