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In reply to the discussion: Bill Nye the Scinece Guy on GMOs [View all]sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)172. Here are a few links regarding the tragedy of Indian Farmers.
The Seeds of Suicide How Monsanto Destroys Farming
This is a desperate attempt by Monsanto and its PR machinery to delink the epidemic of farmers suicides in India from the companys growing control over cotton seed supply 95 per cent of Indias cotton seed is now controlled by Monsanto.
These are a few of the countries that now ban Monsanto AUSTRIA, BULGARIA, GERMANY, GREECE, HUNGARY, IRELAND, JAPAN, LUXEMBOURG, MADEIRA, NEW ZEALAND, PERU, SOUTH AUSTRALIA, RUSSIA, FRANCE, AND SWITZERLAND! A total of 30 so far have joined the growing bans on Monsanto and its GMOs and pesticides.
Monsanto Rural Debt and the Suicide Epidemic in IndiaMonsanto Rural Debt and the Suicide Epidemic in India]
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/vandana-shiva/from-seeds-of-suicide-to_b_192419.html
Of course Monsanto has denied any of this, and our media either tries to debunk the facts about the destruction of not just India's farmers but many other parts of the world, or cover them up.
There is an excellent documentary about all of this which I will post when I have more time to find it. Bush Sr. appears in it in a segment demonstrating Monsanto's promotional efforts, he was VP at the time.
Sorry to be so angry, but this truly is something I never thought we would have to redo on any Democratic website. I guess you have to keep on repeating thing or the Corporations will take advantage of our not doing so. And they spend millions to overcome the exposure of their practices.
This is a desperate attempt by Monsanto and its PR machinery to delink the epidemic of farmers suicides in India from the companys growing control over cotton seed supply 95 per cent of Indias cotton seed is now controlled by Monsanto.
Control over seed is the first link in the food chain because seed is the source of life. When a corporation controls seed, it controls life, especially the life of farmers.
Monsantos concentrated control over the seed sector in India as well as across the world is very worrying. This is what connects farmers suicides in India to Monsanto vs Percy Schmeiser in Canada, to Monsanto vs Bowman in the US, and to farmers in Brazil suing Monsanto for $2.2 billion for unfair collection of royalty.
Through patents on seed, Monsanto has become the Life Lord of our planet, collecting rents for lifes renewal from farmers, the original breeders.
Patents on seed are illegitimate because putting a toxic gene into a plant cell is not creating or inventing a plant. These are seeds of deception the deception that Monsanto is the creator of seeds and life; the deception that while Monsanto sues farmers and traps them in debt, it pretends to be working for farmers welfare, and the deception that GMOs feed the world. GMOs are failing to control pests and weeds, and have instead led to the emergence of superpests and superweeds.
Monsantos concentrated control over the seed sector in India as well as across the world is very worrying. This is what connects farmers suicides in India to Monsanto vs Percy Schmeiser in Canada, to Monsanto vs Bowman in the US, and to farmers in Brazil suing Monsanto for $2.2 billion for unfair collection of royalty.
Through patents on seed, Monsanto has become the Life Lord of our planet, collecting rents for lifes renewal from farmers, the original breeders.
Patents on seed are illegitimate because putting a toxic gene into a plant cell is not creating or inventing a plant. These are seeds of deception the deception that Monsanto is the creator of seeds and life; the deception that while Monsanto sues farmers and traps them in debt, it pretends to be working for farmers welfare, and the deception that GMOs feed the world. GMOs are failing to control pests and weeds, and have instead led to the emergence of superpests and superweeds.
These are a few of the countries that now ban Monsanto AUSTRIA, BULGARIA, GERMANY, GREECE, HUNGARY, IRELAND, JAPAN, LUXEMBOURG, MADEIRA, NEW ZEALAND, PERU, SOUTH AUSTRALIA, RUSSIA, FRANCE, AND SWITZERLAND! A total of 30 so far have joined the growing bans on Monsanto and its GMOs and pesticides.
Monsanto Rural Debt and the Suicide Epidemic in IndiaMonsanto Rural Debt and the Suicide Epidemic in India]
The website of US-based biotech giant Monsanto boasts that the corporation qualifies as "a sustainable agriculture company."
Given Monsanto's legacy as a producer of the lethal defoliant Agent Orange during the Vietnam War, Southeast Asian agriculture would presumably beg to differ with this characterization.
Sustainability is also not the first word that comes to mind when contemplating Monsanto's policy of sowing the earth with genetically modified seeds that destroy soil and are designed with nonrenewable traits so as to require constant repurchase as well as acquisition of a variety of other company products like fertilizers and pesticides.
Nor would the term appear to define a situation in which nearly 300,000 Indian farmers have committed suicide since 1995 after being driven into insurmountable debt by neoliberal economics and the conquest of Indian farmland by Monsanto's Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt) cotton.
In tragic irony, many kill themselves by imbibing pesticides intended for their crops.
Given Monsanto's legacy as a producer of the lethal defoliant Agent Orange during the Vietnam War, Southeast Asian agriculture would presumably beg to differ with this characterization.
Sustainability is also not the first word that comes to mind when contemplating Monsanto's policy of sowing the earth with genetically modified seeds that destroy soil and are designed with nonrenewable traits so as to require constant repurchase as well as acquisition of a variety of other company products like fertilizers and pesticides.
Nor would the term appear to define a situation in which nearly 300,000 Indian farmers have committed suicide since 1995 after being driven into insurmountable debt by neoliberal economics and the conquest of Indian farmland by Monsanto's Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt) cotton.
In tragic irony, many kill themselves by imbibing pesticides intended for their crops.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/vandana-shiva/from-seeds-of-suicide-to_b_192419.html
In 1998, the World Bank's structural adjustment policies forced India to open up its seed sector to global corporations like Cargill, Monsanto and Syngenta. The global corporations changed the input economy overnight. Farm saved seeds were replaced by corporate seeds, which need fertilizers and pesticides and cannot be saved.
Corporations prevent seed savings through patents and by engineering seeds with non-renewable traits. As a result, poor peasants have to buy new seeds for every planting season and what was traditionally a free resource, available by putting aside a small portion of the crop, becomes a commodity. This new expense increases poverty and leads to indebtness.
The shift from saved seed to corporate monopoly of the seed supply also represents a shift from biodiversity to monoculture in agriculture. The district of Warangal in Andhra Pradesh used to grow diverse legumes, millets, and oilseeds. Now the imposition of cotton monocultures has led to the loss of the wealth of farmer's breeding and nature's evolution.
Corporations prevent seed savings through patents and by engineering seeds with non-renewable traits. As a result, poor peasants have to buy new seeds for every planting season and what was traditionally a free resource, available by putting aside a small portion of the crop, becomes a commodity. This new expense increases poverty and leads to indebtness.
The shift from saved seed to corporate monopoly of the seed supply also represents a shift from biodiversity to monoculture in agriculture. The district of Warangal in Andhra Pradesh used to grow diverse legumes, millets, and oilseeds. Now the imposition of cotton monocultures has led to the loss of the wealth of farmer's breeding and nature's evolution.
Of course Monsanto has denied any of this, and our media either tries to debunk the facts about the destruction of not just India's farmers but many other parts of the world, or cover them up.
There is an excellent documentary about all of this which I will post when I have more time to find it. Bush Sr. appears in it in a segment demonstrating Monsanto's promotional efforts, he was VP at the time.
Sorry to be so angry, but this truly is something I never thought we would have to redo on any Democratic website. I guess you have to keep on repeating thing or the Corporations will take advantage of our not doing so. And they spend millions to overcome the exposure of their practices.
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Thank you. I am totally confident that the combined resources of science and the US govt can
merrily
Oct 2014
#186
Science might be helpful in coming up with wording. If I am mistaken, it's irrelevant to
merrily
Oct 2014
#189
I never said it was simple. I do, however, aver it's not as impossible as it's being portrayed.
merrily
Oct 2014
#196
Given that description, I imagine it would be hard for someone to know what you're talking about.
NuclearDem
Oct 2014
#219
More like Monsanto's science. They spend millions on political donations in this country and
sabrina 1
Oct 2014
#235
And just where did you get that not-so-scientific opinion from? Are you seriously supporting
sabrina 1
Oct 2014
#127
Give us an example of the claims 'people are making' about Monsanto that are false.
sabrina 1
Oct 2014
#140
The GMO producers control the research by limiting the seeds, requiring purchasers to sign
pnwmom
Oct 2014
#241
The "independent" researchers can only publish with the permission of the producers.
pnwmom
Oct 2014
#246
Doesn't matter. GMO products were released during the years when the ban was in place,
pnwmom
Oct 2014
#250
No, anti-GMO is more like "Geo-engineering will solve climate change, so no worries".
MH1
Oct 2014
#190
I'm not saying people who deny science on one will deny science on the others.
ZombieHorde
Oct 2014
#229
There is no advantage to GMO whatsoever as long as it is controlled by corporations
eridani
Oct 2014
#9
Correct! AstroTurfİ was invented for a specific purpose, to replace living grass in the Astrodome:
freshwest
Oct 2014
#176
You might tell that to the farmers in Oxaca, Mexico, who got their corn crops contaminated after
merrily
Oct 2014
#43
So you can't prove your assertions that GMO doesn't contaminate other crops.
Lost In America
Oct 2014
#120
That is not USDA policy, so I don't know what's going on with the farmers you know.
ZombieHorde
Oct 2014
#101
Wow. I cannot believe I am reading this nonsense right here on DU. I have read it years ago
sabrina 1
Oct 2014
#137
I'll go with the experts and the growing rejection worldwide of Corporations like Monsanto who were
sabrina 1
Oct 2014
#150
Your opinion is becoming more and more the minority opinion, thankfully, after decades of
sabrina 1
Oct 2014
#169
If only. Monsanto was voted the 'most evil corporation' recently by 51% of respondents in a poll
sabrina 1
Oct 2014
#173
Banned from 30 countries. The poll simply reflects the Global opinion of this evil Corporation.
sabrina 1
Oct 2014
#232
If you can link to a peer-reviewed study indicating labels=fear, please link to them also...
LanternWaste
Oct 2014
#38
"What if people don't want to support fucking sociopathic corporations like Monsanto who make huge
Cha
Oct 2014
#15
Withholding information is not a solution to your fear of alleged fear of science or alleged
merrily
Oct 2014
#28
It's not my problem, or the problem of pretty much anyone who isn't a pro-GM booster.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Oct 2014
#71
No, wrong again pal, they were the first open pollinated seed plants to be patented
Tumbulu
Oct 2014
#145
Agreed. Don't see why Democrats, who are into regulation and informing people, would object.
freshwest
Oct 2014
#183
If you believe the fear of science hurts people, then you are helping perpetuate that
Rex
Oct 2014
#47
Yes, not really about you - just in general. Humans are suspicious and curious by nature imo.
Rex
Oct 2014
#54
Scientific epidemiological studies of GMO's post-FDA approval cannot be conducted without
pnwmom
Oct 2014
#118
The funny thing about that argument is that they're not asking for labels for all seed technologies.
HuckleB
Oct 2014
#227
Well, I haven't really known that much about Bill Nye but now I love him due to his common sense
Cha
Oct 2014
#18
excellent video - NOT anti-GMO - but a call for disclosure and testing case by case
Douglas Carpenter
Oct 2014
#30
Sounds like he is taking a cautious attitude but not freaking out about it.
liberal_at_heart
Oct 2014
#37
Since it seems this conversation is taking a slight turn for the better
whatchamacallit
Oct 2014
#83
Crop Scientists Say Biotechnology Seed Companies Are Thwarting Research
Luminous Animal
Oct 2014
#60
Yes. I do. You do not, Pro GMO's say this is 30 years of settled science. A blatant lie.
Luminous Animal
Oct 2014
#100
Only if you ignored who controls that science. As did the lead industry. As did coal industry.
Luminous Animal
Oct 2014
#116
So you can't support your assertions. Thus, you make baseless claims about "control."
HuckleB
Oct 2014
#135
If GMOs are so beneficial, why not advertise them or, at least, label them? K&R
Tierra_y_Libertad
Oct 2014
#50
Note that he is talking about environmental effects as opposed to consumption.
alarimer
Oct 2014
#67
And Monsanto controlled the publication. That was their terms for allowing the scientist access to
Luminous Animal
Oct 2014
#81
Anything that's "new and improved" is marketed as such, the fact they want to hide it, tells you its
grahamhgreen
Oct 2014
#179
I think they oppose labelling because it creates a possibly unnecessary stigma to the product.
phleshdef
Oct 2014
#167
Excellent Bill Nye! He pretty much sums up what the Union of Concerned Scientists
Tumbulu
Oct 2014
#138
UCS is losing credibility, and impacts are being studied, and always have been.
HuckleB
Oct 2014
#151
Thanks for the video, always enjoy Bill Nye. I'm in favor of labeling, but the question at the end
freshwest
Oct 2014
#184
The issue isn't whether or not GMO is healthy to eat, it is what GMOs do to the ecosystem.
MH1
Oct 2014
#238
About 30 years ago, when the corporate giants were in full takeover mode
mountain grammy
Oct 2014
#211
To the science lovers avove all else. Didn't science create the atomic bomb?
Jim Beard
Oct 2014
#216