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In reply to the discussion: The perfect response to people who say all Muslims are violent, in one tweet [View all]LostOne4Ever
(9,732 posts)78. And he was talking about the people who were making DEATH THREATS at SOUTH PARK for mocking Mohammad
Last edited Fri Oct 17, 2014, 10:33 AM - Edit history (1)
Go back and watch 2:34 to the same point. He was specifically asked about that. He was not talking about all Muslims, but about those who put fatwas on cartoonists.
Cooper:"On your show last week you took on the Islamic radicals who made threats on the Creators of South park. Im gonna show our viewers some of what you said:"
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Cooper: "Why is Islam the one religion about so many in America and the West censor themselves when it comes to talking about or making fun of? Is it just fear?"
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Cooper: "Why is Islam the one religion about so many in America and the West censor themselves when it comes to talking about or making fun of? Is it just fear?"
At 3:45
And they don't. You know, yes we do have religious nuts in this country. There was a cleric in Iran who recently said that earthquakes were caused by slutty women. Well, Pat Robertson once said abortions caused hurricanes, I think. The difference being Pat Robertson doesn't have the power to cut your arms off.
The link you gave continues to do exactly what the article in your OP does: completely distort to outright lying about what maher said.
Example:
But. If vast numbers of Muslims across the world believe and they do - that humans deserve to die for merely holding a different idea or drawing a cartoon or writing a book or eloping with the wrong person, not only does the Muslim world have something in common with Isis. It has too much in common with Isis.
This ability to project a broad generalization onto more than 1 billion people, weve seen from Maher before. In a 2011 interview with Anderson Cooper, Maher claims this about Muslims:
This ability to project a broad generalization onto more than 1 billion people, weve seen from Maher before. In a 2011 interview with Anderson Cooper, Maher claims this about Muslims:
Vast number does not equal all. Yet that is what the article tries to say. Maher is directly talking about the people in countries like Egypt where 63% of the people think apostates deserve to be put to death.
http://www.pewforum.org/files/2013/04/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf
Pg 55
Compared with attitudes toward applying sharia in the domestic or criminal spheres,
Muslims in the countries surveyed are significantly less supportive of the death
penalty for converts.19 Nevertheless, in six of the 20 countries where there are adequate
samples for analysis, at least half of those who favor making Islamic law the official law also
support executing apostates.Taking the life of those who abandon Islam is
most widely supported in Egypt (86%) and Jordan (82%). Roughly two-thirds who want
sharia to be the law of the land also back this penalty in the Palestinian territories (66%). In
the other countries surveyed in the Middle East-North Africa region, fewer than half take
this view.
In the South Asian countries of Afghanistan and Pakistan, strong majorities of those who
favor making Islamic law the official law of the land also approve of executing apostates (79%
and 76%, respectively). However, in Bangladesh far fewer (44%) share this view. A majority of Malaysian Muslims (62%) who want to see sharia as their countrys official law also support taking the lives of those who convert to other faiths. But fewer take this position in neighboring Thailand (27%) and Indonesia (18%).
Muslims in the countries surveyed are significantly less supportive of the death
penalty for converts.19 Nevertheless, in six of the 20 countries where there are adequate
samples for analysis, at least half of those who favor making Islamic law the official law also
support executing apostates.Taking the life of those who abandon Islam is
most widely supported in Egypt (86%) and Jordan (82%). Roughly two-thirds who want
sharia to be the law of the land also back this penalty in the Palestinian territories (66%). In
the other countries surveyed in the Middle East-North Africa region, fewer than half take
this view.
In the South Asian countries of Afghanistan and Pakistan, strong majorities of those who
favor making Islamic law the official law of the land also approve of executing apostates (79%
and 76%, respectively). However, in Bangladesh far fewer (44%) share this view. A majority of Malaysian Muslims (62%) who want to see sharia as their countrys official law also support taking the lives of those who convert to other faiths. But fewer take this position in neighboring Thailand (27%) and Indonesia (18%).
Egypt, alone, has a population of 86 million, 90% of which are Muslim. That means 48 million people think apostates should be killed. That is a pretty vast number before adding in all the other countries as well.
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The perfect response to people who say all Muslims are violent, in one tweet [View all]
Turborama
Oct 2014
OP
The "All Muslims are the same" slogan needs to return to the far-right from whence it emerged.
pampango
Oct 2014
#2
remind me which muslims in this country are trying to eliminate women's rights, for example?
niyad
Oct 2014
#46
it was also seen in the runup to war: "we're civilizing these poor brutes!" instead of "Jayzus toold
MisterP
Oct 2014
#51
I've met idiots who are pissed that Constantinople is now called Istanbul...
Spitfire of ATJ
Oct 2014
#21
Smithsonian Channel had a three-part series on the history of Islam and its dealings with the west,
Blue_In_AK
Oct 2014
#70
I have been saying this for ages--our own religious nutbars worry me far more--I have to deal with
niyad
Oct 2014
#47
Muhammed Ali got out of Vienam because it's against his religion to kill.
Spitfire of ATJ
Oct 2014
#18
same mentality yes, but how do you explain the violence in the arab/islamic world?
samsingh
Oct 2014
#106
Remember Ireland? Two branches of Christianity locked in a long standing conflict....
Spitfire of ATJ
Oct 2014
#107
Bill is an intellectual comedian, brilliant in most areas, with this big blind spot about Islam....
Fred Sanders
Oct 2014
#20
I am open to persuasion on the intellectual claim I made, for sure having never met the man.
Fred Sanders
Oct 2014
#41
People are NOT their religion. Leaders, OTOH, use religion to serve their purposes. nt
valerief
Oct 2014
#27
I've noticed quite a few generalizations like that on DU. As a newish member, it always surprises me
C Moon
Oct 2014
#28
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,............and by the rulers as useful"-
ErikJ
Oct 2014
#30
The failure of punditry is to spend time on extremists and not the people fighting them.
freshwest
Oct 2014
#31
I'd been planning on doing one on media, perhaps I'll add this in. Thanks for the comment.
freshwest
Oct 2014
#45
Worth noting that Maher absolutely did not say that all Muslims are violent.
Donald Ian Rankin
Oct 2014
#33
Actually, you 2 ignoring the wider point of the post and calling it a lie looks like classic...
Turborama
Oct 2014
#38
The article does not say Bill Maher said all Muslims are violent, the title suggests sharing a tweet
Turborama
Oct 2014
#54
The ARTICLE is titled "The perfect response to people who say all Muslims are violent.."
LostOne4Ever
Oct 2014
#58
Actually, they do exist. Listen again to what he says in the contretemps with Afflick
Turborama
Oct 2014
#97
Maher: "Because they’re violent. Because they threaten us. And they are threatening."
Turborama
Oct 2014
#66
And he was talking about the people who were making DEATH THREATS at SOUTH PARK for mocking Mohammad
LostOne4Ever
Oct 2014
#78
Your blatant misrepresentation of Maher's words doesn't help Islam's victims.
beam me up scottie
Oct 2014
#73
And now we have classic projection. You have been the one doing the nasty personal attacks...
Turborama
Oct 2014
#76