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78. I see it as the laws of tyrants

Reply to samsingh (Reply #76)

Fri Oct 17, 2014, 11:54 AM

Oct 2014

They shape the system out of whatever is handy. Though shame on the clergy in Saudi Arabia for playing along.

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Saudi Arabia Sentences Cleric to Crucifixion [View all] Babel_17 Oct 2014 OP

The BFEE's bestest of friends madokie Oct 2014 #1

If anyone sees/hears about this on TV or the radio ... Babel_17 Oct 2014 #2

He a Shia Muslim ..... which is important Ichingcarpenter Oct 2014 #3

Horrific what is done to citizens by their own government get the red out Oct 2014 #4

careful, somebody will probably be here soon saying we should respect their culture snooper2 Oct 2014 #6

I would say that a country that has put 30 to death so far this year has little credibility in DrDan Oct 2014 #9

But, but, but . . . . that's different We use "civilized" methods of execution. Arkansas Granny Oct 2014 #12

oh yeah - I forgot - our finely-tuned electric chairs are admired around the world for their DrDan Oct 2014 #13

And our "humane" make-do drug cocktails tblue Oct 2014 #32

In a few cases it was less then "civilized" QuestionAlways Oct 2014 #51

agreed Arkansas Granny Oct 2014 #55

Well, what if it's not the "country" criticizing? Adrahil Oct 2014 #15

How about a country edhopper Oct 2014 #17

I think it is wrong for any reason DrDan Oct 2014 #19

but you don't think edhopper Oct 2014 #22

I think it is hypocritical DrDan Oct 2014 #30

true edhopper Oct 2014 #35

Hypocritical?...Um, no..You've heard the phrase "cruel and unusual punishment"? whathehell Oct 2014 #42

yep - nothing barbaric about this DrDan Oct 2014 #45

Sure, it's just LIKE getting your head cut off in public..Ask death row inmates THEIR preference. whathehell Oct 2014 #49

so the difference in state-sponsored killings comes down to whether they DrDan Oct 2014 #54

Um, no. There is that "cruel and unusual punishment" thing as well. whathehell Oct 2014 #59

got it - you have no concern with the torture involved with our execution methods DrDan Oct 2014 #64

LOL..No, again, you haven't "got it". Torture -- physical and mental -- is my concern whathehell Oct 2014 #70

electric-chair torture? not an issue for you I guess DrDan Oct 2014 #72

You guess wrong, as usual, lol whathehell Oct 2014 #80

Your post inspired me to look up that phrase JonLP24 Oct 2014 #83

That's nice.. whathehell Oct 2014 #85

Here in the US it depends on what bar you are in! Sam1 Oct 2014 #77

You were right get the red out Oct 2014 #16

Bingo!...The "crucifixion apologists" have taken the stage! whathehell Oct 2014 #31

The death is by beheading. tblue Oct 2014 #38

Well, that's a big relief..Who could object to that? whathehell Oct 2014 #46

"and, apparently, so does every other country in the Western World" - you do DrDan Oct 2014 #56

Yes I DO realize that, and you get the prize for utter and complete predictability, whathehell Oct 2014 #60

you seem to place a lot of faith in your view of death row inmates - may I ask for DrDan Oct 2014 #65

Say whaaat?..I don't have a 'view' of death row inmates, beyond an whathehell Oct 2014 #68

what is your assumption based on? anything relevant, or simply your own biases DrDan Oct 2014 #73

Common knowledge as to what constitutes "cruel & unusual punishment" in Western societies? whathehell Oct 2014 #79

Then why are so many celebrating the lady with cancer Drayden Oct 2014 #98

I think you've onfused me with someone else.. whathehell Oct 2014 #99

Before or after someone intentionally confuses "culture" with "government"? LanternWaste Oct 2014 #36

In a theocracy like Saudi Arabia hifiguy Oct 2014 #40

Snooper, I wonder why you so glibly disparage the concept... Nitram Oct 2014 #52

Who the hell would defend Saudi Arabia? JonLP24 Oct 2014 #81

It may be more of an oilliance than an alliance. merrily Oct 2014 #26

Bingo! And the Bushes loves them some oilmen. tblue Oct 2014 #39

Sorry, all American Presidents love them. They have to. We're very oil dependent merrily Oct 2014 #43

I agree get the red out Oct 2014 #47

There was deification of Reagan and demonization of Carter, but the bottom line was money. merrily Oct 2014 #48

PS. The most lasting effect of Reagan, IMO, is that his victory merrily Oct 2014 #53

Here's a link to another source n2doc Oct 2014 #5

Thanks Babel_17 Oct 2014 #20

Misleading brooklynite Oct 2014 #7

Oh, well in that case it's just fine then! Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #8

I don't disagree Babel_17 Oct 2014 #24

Oh, that's MUCH nicer -- He's being beheaded & having his dead BODY crucified! whathehell Oct 2014 #34

Crucifixion is a slow and tortuous way to die bklyncowgirl Oct 2014 #41

Beheading IS ugly, and, like I've suggested in other posts, if you gave death row prisoners whathehell Oct 2014 #50

desecrating a corpse and putting it on public display is worse than what ISIS does nt geek tragedy Oct 2014 #62

Thank you was going to post just that LukeFL Oct 2014 #94

why, that's totally not barbaric, thank you for that vital clarificiation. nt geek tragedy Oct 2014 #61

You can expect a strong and immediate edhopper Oct 2014 #10

We have more people in prison than anyone else in the world Johonny Oct 2014 #11

Agreed edhopper Oct 2014 #14

Hey, the Saudis are open minded about executions. hifiguy Oct 2014 #25

Right -- and you seriously imagine that's analogous to beheadings and crucifixions? whathehell Oct 2014 #37

both systems are barbaric G_j Oct 2014 #67

. nationalize the fed Oct 2014 #18

Not defending any of it, but merrily Oct 2014 #28

So we bark at China when a cop hits a protester, how about when Saudi Arabia beheads Rex Oct 2014 #21

Well, he wasn't a Christian, after all... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #27

Not quite white, either. Or Euro. Poor guy is 0 for 3 merrily Oct 2014 #29

Sadly, both of you are spot on. Rex Oct 2014 #33

So he was a Muslim criticizing his own? LukeFL Oct 2014 #95

not while SA can control the global price of oil, no. nt geek tragedy Oct 2014 #63

Saudi Arabia. hifiguy Oct 2014 #23

Crucifixion's a doddle. geardaddy Oct 2014 #44

The enemy of my enemy is my friend..or enemy...kinda my pal...but let's just give them money. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2014 #57

So Jesus came back as a Saudi dissident? KamaAina Oct 2014 #58

Fox news and the Repugs should be going crazy over this.... Hotler Oct 2014 #66

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Saudi_Arabia Babel_17 Oct 2014 #69

What is different about Saudi Arabia? Babel_17 Oct 2014 #71

Huh, I just now saw this Babel_17 Oct 2014 #75

So, what�s it like to be beheaded there? Babel_17 Oct 2014 #74

there you go - the religon of peace once again samsingh Oct 2014 #76

I see it as the laws of tyrants Babel_17 Oct 2014 #78

But we daren't criticize them cos that's islamaphobic... truebrit71 Oct 2014 #82

That's right, because for some, the greatest sin of all is being "culturally intolerant". whathehell Oct 2014 #86

Screw them it's not a religion of peace LukeFL Oct 2014 #96

At the very least, point out Christian atrocities such as the Crusades, Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #92

And when was this? LukeFL Oct 2014 #97

Yes, the point is that in terms of barbaric violence, Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #100

Barbaric! just plain sick, inhuman, and evil! hrmjustin Oct 2014 #84

And yet somehow the Saudi monarchy is LESS Islamist than its people would prefer. True Blue Door Oct 2014 #87

A sense of being part of a larger Culture Babel_17 Oct 2014 #90

There's a vicious cycle of censorship and bigotry in the region. True Blue Door Oct 2014 #91

When do the humanitarian bombings and embargoes start? TheKentuckian Oct 2014 #88

After the CNN expose Babel_17 Oct 2014 #89

What year was this? Because LukeFL Oct 2014 #93

Saudis continue to voice support for Sheikh al-Nimr Babel_17 Oct 2014 #101

Amnesty International Babel_17 Oct 2014 #102