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BrotherIvan

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113. Exactly right

Fri Oct 17, 2014, 01:27 PM

Oct 2014

Because feeling threatened enough to carry a gun at all times is the only threat that matters. Translate into usually a man and traditionally white and you're halfway there. The NRA doesn't allow guns at its own conventions for cryin out loud.

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Feminist cancels USU talk after guns allowed despite death threat [View all] KamaAina Oct 2014 OP

Concealed carry makes everyone less safe Bjorn Against Oct 2014 #1

Was the "threat" by USU officials to prevent guns at the venue, Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #2

I suspect that the person does not live in Utah and is not familiar with their laws Fumesucker Oct 2014 #3

If one is threatened regularly, as she claims, then Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #4

I would counsel you against blaming the (potential) victim here. CTyankee Oct 2014 #6

She is a "victim" by threat many times by her account... Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #78

But did you review this particular threat? I stress this because I just went over it again and CTyankee Oct 2014 #86

I quite agree. And USU should have provided extra security, Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #87

Hm. bvf Oct 2014 #99

She could shoot the bad guys with guns Politicalboi Oct 2014 #102

Gun laws are what they are in large measure due to the tenor and tone of your remarks. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #115

It should be obvious... Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #114

Why the quotes around "victim" here? n/t. bvf Oct 2014 #100

I only read an unattributed (in a news source) statement as to past threats. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #116

When she learned of the law she took appropriate steps Fumesucker Oct 2014 #7

Why were "appropriate steps" not taken at other venues Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #79

FYI: the threats against her have been verified by LEO why do you claim" there is an "If" involved bettyellen Oct 2014 #14

Please see #78 & #79. All the more reason if the other Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #80

K lunasun Oct 2014 #63

The threat was supposedly from a student - could have been anyone but the school took it seaglass Oct 2014 #5

thank you for this info that takes it beyond the.... move along, nothing to see. seabeyond Oct 2014 #9

I truly don't know wtf is wrong with these people. They need to put the games and guns down and seaglass Oct 2014 #10

too many of them. too many being fed this is acceptable. their own rational, and they have too seabeyond Oct 2014 #12

So fucking typical BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #22

yup. perfect. i am saying with a lot fewer words and effort. yes. thank you for spelling it out. seabeyond Oct 2014 #45

"If"/"then" is not questioning the threats, it is posing a question. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #82

Yep, 110%- casting aspersions on this woman is bullshit. Mocking the fears of someone who is trying bettyellen Oct 2014 #109

Gunner's new excuse is that THEY are being threatened BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #111

Yep, this was a snide insinuation that death threats are "no big deal" bettyellen Oct 2014 #112

Exactly right BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #113

nothing to see here. just another women, threatened with her life, for speaking. move along. seabeyond Oct 2014 #8

Chilling parallels to the mass shooting at the University of Montreal KamaAina Oct 2014 #11

Holy shit. hifiguy Oct 2014 #13

This makes perfect sense on her part. TygrBright Oct 2014 #15

It is quite brave of her. salib Oct 2014 #16

This makes little sense. DesMoinesDem Oct 2014 #17

Security could easily wand everyone on the way in. eggplant Oct 2014 #19

If the wand indicates 3 legal holders, what then? Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #83

I was replying to a theoretical question eggplant Oct 2014 #90

Actually, the wand use may have a positive affect, even Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #93

Yes, the crazy man killed her but thank god Politicalboi Oct 2014 #103

If you equate legal gun-holders with murderers... Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #104

I would like to apologize on Anita Sarkeesian's behalf knightmaar Oct 2014 #69

odd thing happened at Cabelas PatrynXX Oct 2014 #18

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #20

How many death threats have you received, Internet tough person? geek tragedy Oct 2014 #27

Plenty Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #29

So Ms Sarkeesian needs to arm herself and go geek tragedy Oct 2014 #32

She could hire a private hall and have any type of security measures put in place she wants scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #35

Or they could just not allow guns in the theater geek tragedy Oct 2014 #36

Seriously , this is a tough one for me scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #38

The problem is the state law that values guns more geek tragedy Oct 2014 #40

There was no law that forbid the school from hiring security. Rex Oct 2014 #65

I'm sure that anyone who wants to harm her NobodyHere Oct 2014 #97

That is what security personnel are for. nt geek tragedy Oct 2014 #98

or she can freely speak in this country. wtf? nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #39

Who is stopping her? No one scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #42

really? you do not think a threat of death is stopping her any? you would be a "move along, seabeyond Oct 2014 #43

Maybe we should make that a crime to make death threats scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #47

I have to question cops that don't know simple tactics like deterrents. Rex Oct 2014 #48

Wow, I am amazed at cops that should have learned simple tactics to ensure safety. Rex Oct 2014 #46

It's not up to the police force , I'm sure they would have no problem scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #55

And it is also legal to hire an off duty cop and have a metal detector. Rex Oct 2014 #56

The Universty said no if I understand the article correctly scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #59

There was no law that prevented them from having security. Rex Oct 2014 #62

It's not that she wanted security scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #64

Yes and the school could have hired security, which might have deterred her from canceling. Rex Oct 2014 #66

That's what I said in my earlier post scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #68

she is not quibbling or negotiating her safety to speak. seabeyond Oct 2014 #70

It's a shame there are a group of men out there that hate women so much Rex Oct 2014 #72

I completely agree, and have told other men to head in Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #81

Cops "deterrent" in this country is murdering unarmed black children. ncjustice80 Oct 2014 #61

She was an invited speaker. duh. n/t seaglass Oct 2014 #75

So where are you a cop? Curious because where I live cops don't A Simple Game Oct 2014 #76

You didn't address anything lee-lee said. Throd Oct 2014 #31

Accusing someone who received a death threat geek tragedy Oct 2014 #34

Funny, I thought all law enforcement was taught simple tactics - such as deterrents. Rex Oct 2014 #44

That, and 'don't shoot white people' nt geek tragedy Oct 2014 #50

I'm going to talk to our towns CoP later on today, I will ask him what he thinks. Rex Oct 2014 #52

She asked them to but they couldn't because of the law. DanTex Oct 2014 #54

Right.. and the ones who value life should do something about it.... Oktober Oct 2014 #60

I would think that since carrying a gun is upaloopa Oct 2014 #33

You fail at basic reading mythology Oct 2014 #37

LOL! You are a cop and you've never heard of deterrents? Rex Oct 2014 #41

+1. make it the wild west where all are armed and responsible for surviving. some of us prefer.... seabeyond Oct 2014 #49

She requested metal detectors or pat-downs. DanTex Oct 2014 #51

And if legal gun holders were found, what then? Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #84

Then they can't go in, because, you know, there are no guns allowed. DanTex Oct 2014 #85

Does Utah law bar guns from USU? Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #88

No. It would be for this event specifically. DanTex Oct 2014 #89

It isn't complicated: Laws are not a sometimes thing. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #91

Yeah, it's a dumb law. That's the point. DanTex Oct 2014 #94

these manchildren need to be stopped DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #21

If a feminist has ruined your life BobbyBoring Oct 2014 #23

You have a very violent disposition. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #92

Too bad she was unable to speak Android3.14 Oct 2014 #24

I just pictured Donny and Marie packing heat. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #25

This country is fucking insane. Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #26

This is exactly what the gun nuts want, for Liberals to be afraid to speak. This is an ominous stevenleser Oct 2014 #28

Her choice to cancel scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #30

i would like to know if you are veshta or whomever from the past, i ask respectfully. seabeyond Oct 2014 #53

Yikes sea, thanks for the head's up. n/t seaglass Oct 2014 #71

Yep. Sheldon Cooper Oct 2014 #77

Good question. JTFrog Oct 2014 #105

yes. i can never remember the name. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #108

Yeah heaven forbid she think the school would provide simple security. Rex Oct 2014 #57

MRA types want to silence feminists, it is quite obvious. Rex Oct 2014 #58

i am with you rex seabeyond Oct 2014 #67

We need to rename MRA/4chan as the American Taliban. Rex Oct 2014 #73

or isis. well, they arent beheading yet. maybe just taliban. stoning. good point. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #74

"But GamerGate is not about harassment and threats of violence!!" Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #95

This is terrorism KitSileya Oct 2014 #96

And we don't even know that the guy's white KamaAina Oct 2014 #110

Guns are like an abusers Politicalboi Oct 2014 #101

I do not blame her heaven05 Oct 2014 #106

Then she should bring a gun, and guns should be handed out to everyone at the door... joeybee12 Oct 2014 #107

I think this illustrates the unworkibility Shankapotomus Oct 2014 #117